Thailand - Not for me

[sanemax]

6 minutes ago, vinegarbase said:

Panama thank you.

And you can stay there as long as you like without a visa of any sort ?

[bobbin]

theguyfromanotherforum..

 

I just hope you don't you don't have to punch any of those young folk in the face when you can smell the pot they are smoking..legally.  ?

[vinegarbase]

9 minutes ago, giddyup said:

A report every 90 days that you can do online, and renewing a retirement extension once a year? Oh yeah, it's a bloody nightmare!

Haha, your joking right. How about you just scroll through the TV forum a bit and see if everyone's situation is so easy as yours. After all everyone is just like you, just an easy 90 day online report and a breeze of a retirement extension once a year.

[billd766]

38 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Thats where many peoples problems come from .

They choose to live in Thailand for females

 

I chose to live in Thailand but, for just one female. My wife of 18 years.

 

 

17 minutes ago, vinegarbase said:

 

 

[NCC1701A]

2 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

there is literally no one over 30 where I live (I stick out like a sore thumb). 

this is only in your head. the truth is no one notices. And you blend right in in Thailand, right?

 

2 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

Women are absolutely and phenomenally good looking (there is just no comparison with Thai women and I feel sorry for the guys lying to themselves) and I got no chance with any of them....it's rather depressing the whole situation...

"and I got no chance with any of them....it's rather depressing the whole situation..." so you leave Thailand (Bangkok?) where you can go to any night club and party with dozens of beautiful women? Where is your wife in all of these thoughts about young beautiful women?

 

2 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

looking at all these young people living in half million one bedroom condos with their hot girlfriends makes me wonder why would any fool move to Thailand and waste their life?

"makes me wonder why would any fool move to Thailand and waste their life" so one does not make statements like "and I got no chance with any of them....it's rather depressing the whole situation..."

2 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

For what really? Visa runs, subpar Western food and dirty air? 

why don't you rent your Toronto box and use the cash to rent a ocean view Villa with a nice on shore breeze in Thailand out of any big city and hire one of these very average looking Thai women and teach her to cook western food. make sure she has big milk.  This will help your depression. tell your wife you are still in Toronto.

2 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

I left my wife in Thailand

What is the understanding with her? This sounds like a trial separation to me.

2 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

after a few Facebook chats I feel very depressed

you are depressed. that is why it makes no difference where you are.

2 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

She's scared to leave her job and she's scared to be poor. All valid concerns, but she doesn't understand that as almost a middle-aged woman she can still get a chance living in Canada. I have given up rather early as I know all too well Thai mindset can not be changed and bringing her here would be a long term mistake ending in divorce.

"She's scared to leave her job and she's scared to be poor" more like she is scared to be a popsicle.

 

I was in Toronto in the mid 80's visiting my then girlfriend. wind chill was MINUS 11F! for this Los Angeles guy I was like let me out of here.

Very clean city. And there was no major crime. I hear it has changed. 

 

"bringing her here would be a long term mistake ending in divorce" so you just live on opposite sides of the planet?

2 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

So, here I am alone again.

yes, maybe you can go get a coffee in a Starbucks in Toronto and be totally invisible and alone. and freezing. good plan. 

 

I hope you get this worked out. I am thinking this is about you not wanted to be married anymore and the depression it is causing.

remember no matter where you go, there you are.

 

I have to go now, two completely average looking 27 year old Thai girls are at my door to help me not be depressed about the "subpar Western food".  

 

Good luck Captain.

 

P.S. Normally I never make personal comments about forum members but you are the one who turned the holodeck safety protocols off.

 

Edited August 25, 2018 by NCC1701A

[vinegarbase]

19 minutes ago, sanemax said:

And you can stay there as long as you like without a visa of any sort ?

Got permanent residency in Panama 2 months. Don't need a visa at all. I come, go and work as I please. 

Edited August 25, 2018 by vinegarbase

[billd766]

20 minutes ago, vinegarbase said:

Haha, and may I now refer everyone to the latest TV trending post.My original comment still stands and is reinforced here. https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/945350-thai-police-visiting-foreigners-at-home-asking-for-yet-more-personal-info-via-new-controversial-form/

 

 

A 2 year old thread updated this week by only 3 people.

 

In 14 years of living in rural Khampaeng Phet the police have visited me just once.

 

They asked a few questions, I had a couple of photos taken and they left. No hassles and no problems.

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

I have planned my move for 10 years and at the end it seems I lasted barely 5.

 

I have been back to Toronto for just over one month.

Good luck with your decision, there are many reasons why people end up in Thailand, to cut long story mine was retirement it ended up offering me more than I could expect in the UK as a retired person.

I don't understand young people living here and having families unless they are part time and there retirement is planned for their future here.  

Hope things work out for you, keep ya chin up ?

[giddyup]

14 minutes ago, vinegarbase said:

Haha, your joking right. How about you just scroll through the TV forum a bit and see if everyone's situation is so easy as yours. After all everyone is just like you, just an easy 90 day online report and a breeze of a retirement extension once a year.

Mate, I've been here nearly 9 years and no one I know has a problem with immigration. Of course there will always be exceptions but they are in the minority. If you just come here to badmouth Thailand, you aren't welcome, it's quite fortunate you don't like Thailand.

Edited August 25, 2018 by giddyup

[vinegarbase]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

 

A 2 year old thread updated this week by only 3 people.

 

In 14 years of living in rural Khampaeng Phet the police have visited me just once.

 

They asked a few questions, I had a couple of photos taken and they left. No hassles and no problems.

Sure, I was just simply adding to my original statement that immigration CONTINUES has goten

 

Just now, giddyup said:

Mate, I've been here nearly 9 years and no one I know has a problem with immigration. Of course there will always be exceptions but they are in the minority. If you just come here to badmouth Thailand, you aren't welcome.

So giving my opinion that I don't like the burdensome immigration regulations like 90 day extensions despite having a visa, 90 day stay reporting, having to re register my address within 24 hrs even if I didn't move, and having to apply and pay for a permit despite already having a visa if I want to leave the country and come back that somehow I am badmouthing Thailand? As long as I am following the law I am welcome to go where I please. I am also free to criticize things according to my opinion and I don't need your permission to do so SON.

[giddyup]

4 minutes ago, vinegarbase said:

Sure, I was just simply adding to my original statement that immigration CONTINUES has goten

 

So giving my opinion that I don't like the burdensome immigration regulations like 90 day extensions despite having a visa, 90 day stay reporting, having to re register my address within 24 hrs even if I didn't move, and having to apply and pay for a permit despite already having a visa if I want to leave the country and come back that somehow I am badmouthing Thailand? As long as I am following the law I am welcome to go where I please. I am also free to criticize things according to my opinion and I don't need your permission to do so SON.

Good, stay in Panama, it's about as far away from Thailand as you can get.Funny that you still find the need to post on a Thai forum though.

Edited August 25, 2018 by giddyup

[poohy]

Good luck to the guy, only he can make the decision, he did, lets hope it works for him.

 

I personally would not discount doing similar when/if the time was right

[Kwasaki]

53 minutes ago, vinegarbase said:

There you go. I also don't know why anyone willingly puts up with the insane 90 day immigration nonsense and their insane address reporting regulations. Different strokes for different folks. I guess some don't mind being caged and herded. I enjoy freedom.

I enjoy my cheap life and freedom even being quest and yeah I hear what your saying I got kids of my own.

[vinegarbase]

6 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Good, stay in Panama, it's about as far away from Thailand as you can get.

Haha, like I said I go where I want SON, what are you going to do? You are obviously one who hates freedom by the evidence you can't stand someone who doesn't conform to your opinion and doesn't live in life through your rose colored goggles in Thailand. Thailand's visa regulations SUCK imo. They didn't have half this mess 10 years ago and it was such a better place. Thailand is a great place for a vacation and unfortunately I must come on business trips and that's about it for me. I'm not going to be herded like cattle here long term. 

Edited August 25, 2018 by vinegarbase

[FritsSikkink]

30 minutes ago, vinegarbase said:

Haha, your joking right. How about you just scroll through the TV forum a bit and see if everyone's situation is so easy as yours. After all everyone is just like you, just an easy 90 day online report and a breeze of a retirement extension once a year.

No, I have to give my passport to the company lawyer every 90 days and spend about 2 hours at immigration once a year.

[giddyup]

5 minutes ago, vinegarbase said:

Haha, like I said I go where I want SON, what are you going to do? You are obviously one who hates freedom by the evidence you can't stand someone who doesn't conform to your opinion and doesn't live in life through your rose colored goggles in Thailand. Thailand's visa regulations SUCK imo. They didn't have half this mess 10 years ago and it was such a better place. Thailand is a great place for a vacation and unfortunately I must come on business trips and that's about it for me. I'm not going to be herded like cattle here long term. 

 Write a letter to Thai immigration expressing your complaints, maybe they'll change the system for you. In the meantime the rest of us will get on with our trouble-free relaxing Thailand lives.

[impulse]

1 hour ago, FolkGuitar said:

Some people can be happy anywhere they are.

Some people can not be happy no matter where they are.

Thailand brings out the best of both.

 

And the worst...

 

Some folks only snap to the fact that it's them when they find out they're still miserable even in Thailand.  Or Cambodia.  Or the Bahamas.  Or... Or... 

 

And that can be a disturbing bit of self knowledge.

 

[Kwasaki]

57 minutes ago, sanemax said:

And you can stay there as long as you like without a visa of any sort ?

Tourist visa: The tourist visa you get when you come into Panama gives you 180 days in the country. This visa is for Americans, Canadians and citizens of the European Community and some other counties. After 180 days, you must leave Panama and and return to your own country for a period of not more than 30 days.

[Hummin]

3 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

No, there isn't. I had a tenant living in my place for the past 4 years and paying my mortgage. He moved out and I moved in. The plan is (was?) to fix up the place a bit and charge more rent. I also have some health issues that are worse in Thailand.I just don't want to go back to a filthy country anymore. 

 

If you think there is anything else you can add it to the story with your vivid imagination.

 

What a hell does it mean "bottled it??"

Respect your choice!

 

Im not sure I will stick around here in Thailand in 10 years, not even 5, but I try, as I see the adventages it gives me as so long. I have other options and really do not feel stuck yet. But, yes, clean air, cold air, snow, mountains, skiing, clean water, fresh cold water seafood, cheap wine, bread, and so much more as good clean public toilets with quality paper inside and soap. 

 

Enjoy ?

[AGareth2]

59 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

remember no matter where you go, there you are.

so true

[cyril sneer]

3 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

As a matter of fact, looking at all these young people living in half million one bedroom condos with their hot girlfriends makes me wonder why would any fool move to Thailand and waste their life? For what really? Visa runs, subpar Western food and dirty air? 

is this a serious comment? if so where do i start

[Odysseus123]

1 hour ago, vinegarbase said:

Sure, I was just simply adding to my original statement that immigration CONTINUES has goten

 

So giving my opinion that I don't like the burdensome immigration regulations like 90 day extensions despite having a visa, 90 day stay reporting, having to re register my address within 24 hrs even if I didn't move, and having to apply and pay for a permit despite already having a visa if I want to leave the country and come back that somehow I am badmouthing Thailand? As long as I am following the law I am welcome to go where I please. I am also free to criticize things according to my opinion and I don't need your permission to do so SON.

Yep.

[pgrahmm]

1 hour ago, vinegarbase said:

Got permanent residency in Panama 2 months. Don't need a visa at all. I come, go and work as I please. 

Had many friends move to - then away from Panama within 1 - 2 years.....None were happy there ....

 

Good luck - it might work for you, but don't beat the drum too loud, you might find the same thing pretty soon....

 

[vinegarbase]

21 minutes ago, pgrahmm said:

Had many friends move to - then away from Panama within 1 - 2 years.....None were happy there ....

 

Good luck - it might work for you, but don't beat the drum too loud, you might find the same thing pretty soon....

 

So a few of your friends moved to Panama and weren't happy then it's obvious it wasn't for them. What's wrong with that? How many people moved to Thailand and didn't like it and left as well including the OP? What's your point? My original comment was about how I was agreeing to one of his points about the visa runs being a hassle for people. I added in my own opinion about how overbearing visa regulations DOES make life a nightmare for many in Thailand and not everyone fits in the 90 day online report easy 1 year retirement visa category. So you are actually defending the practice that foreigners should be required to register their address within 24 hours every single time they enter the country whether they have moved or not? Why is that necessary and how is that not a nonsense, frustrating, time wasting policy. 

 

And why are people bringing up things about Panama having no visa requirements? I never said this at all. I said I go where I can be free and that was Panama, have been in Panama many years and LOVE IT. I went to Panama on a 180 day visa exemption and within 2 months had my permanent residency. Can you do that in Thailand? An additional secret and please don't get triggered to hard. You can actually own your own land and property in Panama, oh no I said to much. Good luck in your overpriced jail cell condo. Like I said, some people just love to be herded cattle, and if you like that then good for you but for me I am going to criticize these policies because between nations there is a concept called diplomacy. I don't see Thai's on work permits having to do 90 day check ins and address registrations in Western countries, so is it right to want a bit of diplomatic reciprocal treatment as a guest?

Edited August 25, 2018 by vinegarbase

[kekalot]

I'm from Canada too and every single time I went back before got me quite depressed, to be honest.

the winters are horrendous.. we're talking generally cold from October to May.. last time I left around May 15th there was still snow on the side of the road

I am guessing shoveling snow for 2 hours every time there is snowstorm is not on the menu if you live in highrise but hey

when I am back home, I miss the fresh markets, the soi food, the beach, the hot weather, the women, being able to walk outside without freezing my ass off.

 

 

 

[Kwasaki]

7 minutes ago, vinegarbase said:

 How many people moved to Thailand and didn't like it and left as well including the OP? What's your point? My original comment was about how I was agreeing to one of his points about the visa runs being a hassle for people. I added in my own opinion about how overbearing visa regulations DOES make life a nightmare for many in Thailand and not everyone fits in the 90 day online report easy 1 year retirement visa category. So you are actually defending the practice that foreigners should be required to register their address within 24 hours every single time they enter the country whether they have moved or not? Why is that necessary and how is that not a nonsense, frustrating, time wasting policy. 

 

I went to Panama on a 180 day visa exemption and within 2 months had my permanent residency. Can you do that in Thailand? Like I said, some people just love to be herded cattle, and if you like that then good for you but for me I am going to criticize these policies because between nations there is a concept called diplomacy. I don't see Thai's on work permits having to do 90 day check ins and address registrations in Western countries, so is it right to want a bit of diplomatic reciprocal treatment as a guest?

Your points are all very valid although some a bit exaggerated,  before staying Thailand people knew what is required of them to stay and it's their choice whether to stay or not.

If you wish to change things here in Thailand to suit you well go ahead and goodluck with that.

[Gecko123]

theguyfromanotherforum:

 

This past April I spent a month in Paris, and was overcome with an enveloping sense of loneliness and social isolation. It really caught me by surprise, and I very quickly abandoned any dreams I had of moving there. The trip also brought back similar memories of feeling lonely and socially isolated back in America which I had kind of forgotten about. I'm not going to pretend that I have a rip-roaring social life here in Thailand, because I certainly don't, but I almost never feel lonely or depressed here. I think the reason is that people here are more outgoing and open when you encounter them and this allows you to feel like you are part of a community. An intangible quality of life in my opinion well worth considering.

[huawei]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Good luck with your decision, there are many reasons why people end up in Thailand, to cut long story mine was retirement it ended up offering me more than I could expect in the UK as a retired person.

I don't understand young people living here and having families unless they are part time and there retirement is planned for their future here.  

Hope things work out for you, keep ya chin up ?

This is just ignorance...thailand for the majority of time only had young(er) people from the West here...there are good jobs out there, good international schools, Asia has been booming since the mid 80’s, the retiree is a new phenomena. 

 

[impulse]

52 minutes ago, kekalot said:

I'm from Canada too and every single time I went back before got me quite depressed, to be honest.

the winters are horrendous.. we're talking generally cold from October to May.. last time I left around May 15th there was still snow on the side of the road

I am guessing shoveling snow for 2 hours every time there is snowstorm is not on the menu if you live in highrise but hey

when I am back home, I miss the fresh markets, the soi food, the beach, the hot weather, the women, being able to walk outside without freezing my ass off.

 

Meanwhile, I miss the ski slopes, ice fishing and change in seasons.  A lot of it depends on your hobbies and how willing you may be to try some new ones that are more indigenous to wherever you're living.

 

In Texas, I did a lot of water skiing and no snow skiing.  In Wyoming, I did a lot of snow skiing and a little water skiing.  Had I wanted to do the opposite living in either place, airfare would have busted my piggy bank.

 

And I was perfectly content in both places, just like I was content when they sent my paycheck to So California instead of Wyoming.  And when I collected my paycheck in BKK instead of China.  I just adapted my activities to match what's available.

 

Today, I'm missing Thailand, on my way back to Texas.  But I'm looking forward to everything I missed when I left Texas.

 

About the weather, I found out that I can always add more clothes, and today's insulation is worlds ahead of what I had growing up.  But once I'm down to my skivvies and still sweating my butt off, I can't take off any more out in public.  And technology hasn't come up with anything to make that better- at least outdoors where my favorite activities happen.

 

Edited August 25, 2018 by impulse

[Tony125]

5 hours ago, theguyfromanotherforum said:

 

No, there isn't. I had a tenant living in my place for the past 4 years and paying my mortgage. He moved out and I moved in. The plan is (was?) to fix up the place a bit and charge more rent. I also have some health issues that are worse in Thailand.I just don't want to go back to a filthy country anymore. 

 

If you think there is anything else you can add it to the story with your vivid imagination.

 

What a hell does it mean "bottled it??"

If you say that someone has bottled it, you mean that they have lost their courage at the last moment and have not done something they intended to do. He was scheduled to appear on the TV Show, but bottled it at the last minute. bottle.