PM Asks Why there was No Protest before the Judicial Homes began Construction

[snoop1130]

PM Asks Why there was No Protest before the Judicial Homes began Construction

by CityNews

 

 

CityNews – The Prime Minister has raised a question regarding the ‘Scar of Doi Suthep’.

 

A few days after the rally against the Scar of Doi Suthep which was held on August 26th, the Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha addressed the media concerning the issue saying ‘if it was opposed before the construction began, the issue would not have been stretched this long neither would it have turned out to be a default budget for the government’.

 

Full Story: http://www.chiangmaicitylife.com/news/pm-asks-no-protest-judicial-homes-began-construction/

 

-- © Copyright Chiang City News 2018-8-29

[sanemax]

Could be that they built them in secret and the protests only began after people have realised they had been built ? 

[rebo]

As usual: Shoot the messenger ...!

[CNXBKKMAN]

Its a good point. The building work went on for years, clearing the forest, a big ugly patch of dirt, construction work, it could be seen from Maejo. I thought it was strange that until the point it was completed nobody seemed to be outraged. 

          

[Samuel Smith]

19 minutes ago, CNXBKKMAN said:

Its a good point. The building work went on for years, clearing the forest, a big ugly patch of dirt, construction work, it could be seen from Maejo. I thought it was strange that until the point it was completed nobody seemed to be outraged. 

          

+1!  Saw it long time ago on mtb rides.  

[Odysseus123]

7 minutes ago, Samuel Smith said:

+1!  Saw it long time ago on mtb rides.  

That's good.

You are lynx eyed.

Considering the fact that the other 27,457,295 Thai public servants didn't notice it either proves that you don't have to visit Specsavers anytime soon.

 

Neither did the Argus-eyed PM until some myopic person pointed it out.

[scorecard]

32 minutes ago, CNXBKKMAN said:

Its a good point. The building work went on for years, clearing the forest, a big ugly patch of dirt, construction work, it could be seen from Maejo. I thought it was strange that until the point it was completed nobody seemed to be outraged. 

          

 

Who knows the real answer, maybe the public was not that well informed about the earlier actions of assigning the land and approving a budget for the houses etc. Reality is that very few Thai folks read newspapers, watch TV news etc.

 

Plus there's a good chance some folks were angry but frightened to speak up alone. A bit later protests did start to build quickly.

 

 

[anon7867763]

Because no one knew what was going to be built there and it also took them time to organise their protests. I hope I have answered your question Sir.

[janclaes47]

37 minutes ago, CNXBKKMAN said:

Its a good point. The building work went on for years, clearing the forest, a big ugly patch of dirt, construction work, it could be seen from Maejo. I thought it was strange that until the point it was completed nobody seemed to be outraged. 

          

 

17 minutes ago, Samuel Smith said:

+1!  Saw it long time ago on mtb rides.  

 

And did you guys also know exactly what they were building and that it was on land that was not allowed to build?

[CNXBKKMAN]

2 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

 

 

And did you guys also know exactly what they were building and that it was on land that was not allowed to build?

It was clear it was a housing estate of some kind and its well known that building on the mountain is not permitted. There are no millionaire mansions on the mountain or the lower slopes, no resorts, no hotels like there would be if it was legally possible. So from the very start it was obvious it was well connected influential people behind the whole thing. People who can get away with it.

[Enoon]

 

The history of the opposition (including the usual "legal" counter offensive) seem perfectly well outlined in the accompanying article:

 

"complaints had been filed since 2014 when local people witnessed the clearing of the forest in the area."

 

But the PM seems not to have been aware of the history and is just "blurting"......as usual.

 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2018 by Enoon

[Get Real]

For once, this man actually have a point! Looks like even a blind diver finds the new submarine.

[Enoon]

8 minutes ago, Get Real said:

For once, this man actually have a point! Looks like even a blind diver finds the new submarine.

 

What he actually has is "not a clue".

 

Read the link in "story".

 

 

[nowhereman]

Maybe PM should be reminded that building started when present government took the thrown and gatherings of more than five people were illegal, as they actually still are. But he will never hear my point, but maybe some members here on TV will. Sad times indeed.

[Odysseus123]

4 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

What he actually has is "not a clue".

 

Read the link in "story".

 

 

Sure..

But his philosophy and that of his supporters remain in step..

 

 

[nowhereman]

2 hours ago, nowhereman said:

Maybe PM should be reminded that building started when present government took the thrown and gatherings of more than five people were illegal, as they actually still are. But he will never hear my point, but maybe some members here on TV will. Sad times indeed.

And people eating sandwiches were arrested on daily bases. 

[BigBadGeordie]

5 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Full Story: http://www.chiangmaicitylife.com/news/pm-asks-no-protest-judicial-homes-began-construction/

Nah, why bother, just comment on the headline.

[ChrisY1]

13 hours ago, CNXBKKMAN said:

Its a good point. The building work went on for years, clearing the forest, a big ugly patch of dirt, construction work, it could be seen from Maejo. I thought it was strange that until the point it was completed nobody seemed to be outraged. 

          

The Thai public are apathetic and lazy.....but as soon as someone breaks the ice and questions something untoward, only then will they get on board hoping for some reward.

[connda]

When were the public hearings advertised and community input solicited, and environmental impact reports released and published for public discourse?  The PM would probably find his answer right there.  ?

[Lupatria]

14 hours ago, rebo said:

As usual: Shoot the messenger ...!

He probably has sleepless nights thinking about how to blame the media for this year's monsoon.

Edited August 30, 2018 by Lupatria

[fantom]

37 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

The Thai public are apathetic and lazy.....but as soon as someone breaks the ice and questions something untoward, only then will they get on board hoping for some reward.

Please go past the headline and read the link.

[klauskunkel]

the question he should be asking is: Why did officials allow construction in a protected area?

Instead he underhandedly questions the motives of the activists...

[Cadbury]

The PM first emerged as a "fence sitter" on this issue when he stated many months ago those objecting to this judicial land development and seeking it's removal should "follow the law".

Now he has clearly come out on the side of the judges by questioning the rationale and motives of the protesters.

He is not going to risk upsetting the judiciary with an election looming. He may well need their support on any issues of electoral illegality on the part of the junta.

[Srikcir]

2 hours ago, connda said:

When were the public hearings advertised and community input solicited, and environmental impact reports released and published for public discourse?  The PM would probably find his answer right there.  ?

Recall that it was the military that originally declared that it reviewed the proposed development by the Appeals Court before the grant of the land to the courts and concluded that there was no environmental issues. At that point who is going to challenge the military and the courts? Then beginning in May 2014 and through June 2018 where was the military government and the courts to reconsider following the environmental laws to assure proper legal compliance?

From the earliest beginning of the Doi Suthep development, the rule of law was not even an inconvenience. It has been the cumulative disappointment and dissatisfaction with the military junta with regard to harsh suppression of Thais rights and liberties that has given the public courage to openly resist and protest the project.

Better late than never.

Prayut's reaction is just deflection to blame the public rather than admit to the military's inherent permanent power over the Thai people's sovereignty.

[newnative]

See The Waterfront Condo debacle.

[MikeN]

17 hours ago, nowhereman said:

Maybe PM should be reminded that building started when present government took the thrown and gatherings of more than five people were illegal, as they actually still are. But he will never hear my point, but maybe some members here on TV will. Sad times indeed.

And maybe you should be reminded that it was originally planned and approved by a previous government, one run by a certain family clan that has it’s stronghold in Chiang Mai. Nobody was apparently brave enough to stand up to them at the time ? Or just did not want to bite the hand that fed them ?

Edited August 30, 2018 by MikeN

[fullcave]

On 8/29/2018 at 6:52 PM, scorecard said:

maybe the public was not that well informed about the earlier actions of assigning the land and approving a budget for the houses etc.

DING.?

 

Next question.

[chama]

To know something is being built versus knowing what is being built is two different things. How well was the intention of using these building as judicial homes publicized? Of course there is a history for treating the public like mushrooms anyway. Keeping them in the dark and covering them with crap...which would keep them from being able from knowing to voice their concerns.