Popular Post giddyup Posted September 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2018 I picked up a container of what I thought was grated Parmesan cheese at Makro, my mistake I didn't see the word blended on the container, but all the ingredient percentages, only shown in Thai, list actual Parmesan as 1%, the rest is made up in milk powder, cassava and a few other things. It was around 200 baht and in the Parmesan cheese section, but this is so far removed from actual Parmesan that it's not funny. How do they get away with selling this crap? 3 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 It not only Thailand. I recently read this interesting article about Vanilla Ice-Cream without vanilla - in the UK One in five vanilla ice-creams have no vanilla, cream or fresh milk https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/aug/27/one-in-five-vanilla-ice-creams-has-no-vanilla-cream-or-fresh-milk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4evermaat Posted September 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2018 Recommend going to a foreigner food supply store and buying a small block of Parmesan cheese. It will be fresher than any of the pre-grated stuff and the block can be kept in the freezer for months. You can grate as needed or grate extra and keep in the fridge. The bulk cheese is likely to be much cheaper anyway. So you'll save ฿฿ and get better taste. 12 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobbin Posted September 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2018 no.. I think you have misread the label. It's an American product and by law the largest ingredient is listed first. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KittenKong Posted September 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bobbin said: no.. I think you have misread the label. It's an American product and by law the largest ingredient is listed first. As far as I know that rule is the same in the EU also. In fact the Thai label seems to go a step further by indicating that the largest ingredient accounts for 63.7% of the whole. Edited September 7, 2018 by KittenKong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Well!... I reckon I'd be a bit cheesed off... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbin Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, KittenKong said: As far as I know that rule is the same in the EU also. In fact the Thai label seems to go a step further by indicating that the largest ingredient accounts for 63.7% of the whole. I actually think that is a fairly low percentage (63.7%) of parmesan cheese but way more than 1%. 555 I bought another American brand of grated parmesan at Makro and noted the inclusion of powdered cellulose to prevent clumping, as they say. I would expect a product like this to be greater than 90% cheese. Currently, I have been grating blocks of Grand Padano Parmesan, but for ease of use I have no problem using pre-grated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KneeDeep Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, bobbin said: I actually think that is a fairly low percentage (63.7%) of parmesan cheese but way more than 1%. 555 I bought another American brand of grated parmesan at Makro and noted the inclusion of powdered cellulose to prevent clumping, as they say. I would expect a product like this to be greater than 90% cheese. Currently, I have been grating blocks of Grand Padano Parmesan, but for ease of use I have no problem using pre-grated. It's Grana Padano. It is not Parmesan(Parmigano Reggiano). Some people just don't care. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobbin Posted September 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2018 oh oh.. it absolutely is parmesan but not Reggiano.. maybe the next valley over. This is that regional label business, as if a product can not be produced elsewhere. But I know what you meant. ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jdietz Posted September 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2018 "powdered cellulose" We use the term 'Saw Dust' but I can see why marketing wants to come up with something more scientific sounding. 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 37 minutes ago, KittenKong said: As far as I know that rule is the same in the EU also. In fact the Thai label seems to go a step further by indicating that the largest ingredient accounts for 63.7% of the whole. According to my Thai partner the 63.7% is listed as "pasteurised milk" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, bobbin said: I actually think that is a fairly low percentage (63.7%) of parmesan cheese but way more than 1%. 555 I bought another American brand of grated parmesan at Makro and noted the inclusion of powdered cellulose to prevent clumping, as they say. I would expect a product like this to be greater than 90% cheese. Currently, I have been grating blocks of Grand Padano Parmesan, but for ease of use I have no problem using pre-grated. Again, according to her (my partner) 63.7% is "pasteurised milk". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckThai Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Is it worse or better than the "Imperial" brand of shitty fake Parmesan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobbin Posted September 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 minute ago, giddyup said: Again, according to her (my partner) 63.7% is "pasteurised milk". Hold on.. you are asking a Thai about parmesan cheese? 555 What do you think cheese is made of? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KneeDeep Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, bobbin said: oh oh.. it absolutely is parmesan but not Reggiano.. maybe the next valley over. This is that regional label business, as if a product can not be produced elsewhere. But I know what you meant. ? No. It absolutely is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbin Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 minute ago, KneeDeep said: No. It absolutely is not. ok..you want to throw down on this? Tell every producer outside of that small area that they aren't making parmesan. And do it without resorting to that EU regional trademark bs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KneeDeep Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, bobbin said: Hold on.. you are asking a Thai about parmesan cheese? 555 What do you think cheese is made of? 'Parmesan' is made with unpasteurised milk....smartypants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KneeDeep Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bobbin said: ok..you want to throw down on this? Tell every producer outside of that small area that they aren't making parmesan. And do it without resorting to that EU regional trademark bs. Did you not note the differences in production, regardless of the name? I guess you would just prefer to argue, rather than looking at the facts. I'm guessing that you are from the USA.... and haven't got a clue. A lot of crap food there and they want to send it over to Europe and the UK. No thanks. Yes, we have standards in Europe; https://www.granapadano.it/en-us/grana-padano-and-parmigiano-reggiano-particular-aspects-and-specifications-v1.aspx Edited September 7, 2018 by KneeDeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocky Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 "Redwood Farm" I doubt it's been anywhere near a farm either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, bobbin said: Hold on.. you are asking a Thai about parmesan cheese? 555 What do you think cheese is made of? Pasteurised milk comes in bottles (or cartons) as well, it doesn't specify Parmesan cheese. Could be just powdered milk as far as I, or anybody else knows. Edited September 7, 2018 by giddyup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KneeDeep Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, giddyup said: Pasteurised milk comes in bottles as well, it doesn't specify Parmesan cheese. Could be just powdered milk as far as I, or anybody else knows. He's just trying to be funny, without actually being smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Stocky said: "Redwood Farm" I doubt it's been anywhere near a farm either. Good stuff and cheap. I tried some. Makro also sells block and wedge Parmeson. I have some now and I grind it up in my food processor as I need it. The expensive stuff smells more like old Pattaya underwear but that has an attraction too. They have the wedges at Foodland. Edited September 7, 2018 by marcusarelus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, marcusarelus said: It's Australian. Good stuff and cheap. I tried some. Makro also sells block and wedge Parmeson. I have some now and I grind it up in my food processor as I need it. The expensive stuff smells more like old Pattaya underwear but that has an attraction too. They have the wedges at Foodland. Are you still talking about the "Parmesan" I pictured? Because Redwood Farm comes from the US. Edited September 7, 2018 by giddyup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, giddyup said: Are you still talking about the "Parmesan" I pictured? Sorry I read their website incorrectly it was not Australia but Wisconsin. If I'm reading it right this time. Anyway, I liked the flavor of the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, marcusarelus said: Sorry I read their website incorrectly it was not Australia but Wisconsin. If I'm reading it right this time. Anyway, I liked the flavor of the stuff. Are you now talking about the grated stuff I pictured? Because, personally, it doesn't bear any resemblance to real Parmesan, in look or taste. If I was back home I'd be returning it for a refund. Edited September 7, 2018 by giddyup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) It is a US made item and by law is as described (cheese is main ingredient). http://www.bellapak.com/products.html Edited September 7, 2018 by lopburi3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 minute ago, giddyup said: Are you now talking about the grated stuff I pictured? Because, personally, it doesn't bear any resemblance to real Parmesan, in look or taste. If I was back home I'd be returning it for a refund. I have real Parmesan in a jar that I grate. It is whiter and has a more stinky smell (Thai description). The Redwood stuff is a finer grind than I use and more of a yellow color. I think Makro sells Stella. Not sure. Foodland has the Parmesan wedge from Italy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) I am just getting all cheesed off by these pointless arguments which have already passed you and my eyes and that just grate against the toasting under the grilling you lot are giving it. I am Pasta any more Puns tonight!? Edited September 7, 2018 by scottiejohn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 minute ago, lopburi3 said: It is a US made item and by law is as described (cheese is main ingredient). On the container it only specifies "pasteurised milk" as being the main ingredient, not Parmesan cheese. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Just now, giddyup said: On the container it only specifies "pasteurised milk" as being the main ingredient, not Parmesan cheese. Why not? Thai translation issues? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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