4 hours ago, mikebell said:

Time for an invasion or two?

They'll probably wait until the floods in Ayutthaya recede.

My friends and family do not include a troublesome migrant group belonging to a religion that does not integrate resulting in conflicts with the host population, so it does not apply. when even passive Buddhist cannot live with Muslims I know where the blame lies.

 

Sounds almost like something out of Hitlers playbook - just replace the “Buddhist” with passive Germans and Muslims with Jews!

 

And there you go - pure Nazi propaganda!

 

And as for the passive Bhuddists in

Myanmar I would recommend to read up a bit.

 

Defending torture, rape, murder, genocide because of non-integration and conflicts with the “ master race” host population sounds a bit lame to say the least.

 

I am sure the Burmese murderous generals and their troops - who have robbed, raped and killed in their own country for decades would have preferred a Hitler style “ Endloesung “ in gas chambers but in today’s world it is not that easy anymore to murder undetected - as the exposed Rohingya mass graves - also in this country - show.

 

It’s about time that the international community steps in and sends these murderers in uniform where they belong - to prison!

 

 

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8 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai silence deafening as world condemns Myanmar

That's because there is only 'one' side to the Rohingya crisis, and that is the side that is being hammered by the Western media.  But there is more than one side to the Rohingya issue, but those points of view are not open for discussion. 

I tend to believe this guy rather than the lefty Guardian, UN or other liberal do gooders

 

 

i thought the east india company had a lot to do with shipping them over from bengal for cheap labour in the 1st place? blame the brits for not clearing up the mess they left behind?? ?

Edited September 13, 20187 yr by Happy enough

52 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

I tend to believe this guy rather than the lefty Guardian, UN or other liberal do gooders

 

 

Who is this guy?

 

Yeah, the Burmese are not known for creating fake news as a way of justifing its actions nor are the Russian bots writing for MGBA News! What this one chap says goes. 

 

Posting news stories from Make Britain Great Again News to justify genocide and crimes against humanity really does show the kind of person you are. 

 

What's your view on the final solution?

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

I tend to believe this guy rather than the lefty Guardian, UN or other liberal do gooders

This is why FB is banning users in Myanmar and rightly so as the Burmese won't stop it.

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Police argued that the FCCT panel discussion “Will Myanmar’s Generals Ever Face Justice for International Crimes?” had to be cancelled since Thailand’s national security and neighbourly relations  were at stake. 

 

Perhaps the topic of generals facing justice for their abuses was hitting just a little bit too close to home for comfort...

 

Edited September 13, 20187 yr by TallGuyJohninBKK

22 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

i thought the east india company had a lot to do with shipping them over from bengal for cheap labour in the 1st place? blame the brits for not clearing up the mess they left behind?? ?

I am British, and am sorry to say you are absolutely correct.  The Brits have a lot to answer for in the past.  Ask the Tamils in Sri Lanka., same problem.  Unfortunately between the 1600 and 1900s the UK set a very bad example ranging from slave trading to to what you outlined. The problem is many other countries in the world looked upon the British example and thought,  well thats a nice of making ourselves rich,  and have used the persecution of its own people to continue to enrich themselves .   Thailand is not excluded either if you read their history from the 1650s onwards.

8 hours ago, Darcula said:

Thailand is basically Burma with electricity.

True! & where does Thailand import the oil and gas from to generate that electricity? ?

PTT have massive investment's there! 

1 minute ago, Esso49 said:

I am British, and am sorry to say you are absolutely correct.  The Brits have a lot to answer for in the past.  Ask the Tamils in Sri Lanka., same problem.  Unfortunately between the 1600 and 1900s the UK set a very bad example ranging from slave trading to to what you outlined. The problem is many other countries in the world looked upon the British example and thought,  well thats a nice of making ourselves rich,  and have used the persecution of its own people to continue to enrich themselves .   Thailand is not excluded either if you read their history from the 1650s onwards.

Be sure to steer this thread away from talking about Opium - we don't want to go there ?

Luckily the "winners" get to write the history! 

7 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

I am British, and am sorry to say you are absolutely correct.  The Brits have a lot to answer for in the past.  Ask the Tamils in Sri Lanka., same problem.  Unfortunately between the 1600 and 1900s the UK set a very bad example ranging from slave trading to to what you outlined. The problem is many other countries in the world looked upon the British example and thought,  well thats a nice of making ourselves rich,  and have used the persecution of its own people to continue to enrich themselves .   Thailand is not excluded either if you read their history from the 1650s onwards.

the thais? the last 4 years should be enough to ascertain that LOL

I'd say to the western world (and UN and ONU etc): mind your own business, your supposed superiority in people's rights is bulls**t.

I have a totally different view on this sad event

islam is pushed back for the first time.

islam’s constantly expanding 

this time stopped 

genocide definitely not

some bad things happen on both side 

with of coarse the army nailing more coffins

Isis genocide of minorities in the Middle East is far worst

i agree with pushing back religions.

25 minutes ago, Cletus said:

I'd say to the western world (and UN and ONU etc): mind your own business, your supposed superiority in people's rights is bulls**t.

You from Papua New Guinea by any chance ?

http://www.atimes.com/article/china-finds-opportunity-myanmar-crisis/

 

There's more to this than just Myanmars' actions. I don't believe Myanmar goes to the bathroom without asking daddy China if it's okay..

32 minutes ago, Cletus said:

I'd say to the western world (and UN and ONU etc): mind your own business, your supposed superiority in people's rights is bulls**t.

"your supposed superiority in people's rights is bulls**t"

the western world? perhaps look a little closer eh

1 hour ago, Cletus said:

I'd say to the western world (and UN and ONU etc): mind your own business, your supposed superiority in people's rights is bulls**t.

Yeah well, they did define the rights, to which the members signed to: http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

 

Humans as animals don't have any "rights", it's just an agreement between ourselves. The right to die might be an exemption.

 

EDIT: Here's a kicker for ya:

 

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Article 20.
 

(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.

 

And yes Thailand is part of UN. Sanctions I say, throw the book at the usurpers!

Edited September 13, 20187 yr by DrTuner
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5 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

I tend to believe this guy rather than the lefty Guardian, UN or other liberal do gooders

 

 

True - There are some sects of Islam that do not want to co-exist.  Wahhabism comes to mind.

But the overly broad brush-stroke that " But Muslims Don't Want To" -- False - Not all sects of Islam are like Wahhabis.  Many sects have a history of co-existing with other religions and even their secular neighbors just fine. 
 

So what he says may be true where he lives, or it could be an over-generalization.  But if he's making that statement for his entire country or all the countries in the world, then it is a gross over-generalization. 

1 hour ago, connda said:

Many sects have a history of co-existing with other religions and even their secular neighbors just fine.

Until the next divine leader gets funky ideas. All religions are powder kegs.

We should look at the issue for what it is, they do not want muslims.

7 minutes ago, rgraham said:

We should look at the issue for what it is, they do not want muslims.

Or to be more exact, the cultural changes muslims try to enact where ever they settle, such as mosques bawling out prayer calls at unholy hours, sharia law, head scarfs etc. I don't think anybody much minds if they do whatever they do in their own home without trying to force feed it to surroundings.

14 hours ago, Cadbury said:

Thailand, Cambodia and Myanmar. All birds of a feather when it comes to human rights.

Absolutely true.. all going back down the dictatorship route led by military power!

Even now Aung San Suu Kyi has approved of the reuters journalists jail time !!

My how the puppets has turned on her own people, she is a lost voice in a lost cause, the military hold all the strings even after a vote!!

Just wait for the trouble ahead when it's vote time here.. the smiles will be gone and the gloves will be off !

2 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Even now Aung San Suu Kyi has approved of the reuters journalists jail time !!

My how the puppets has turned on her own people, she is a lost voice in a lost cause, the military hold all the strings even after a vote!!

Just wait for the trouble ahead when it's vote time here.. the smiles will be gone and the gloves will be off !

Not surprising if you know her background, she's from military background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi

 

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Her father, Aung San, founded the modern Burmese army

 

What I find surprising is that people find it surprising that the previous generation of military rulers can't shed their colors. Same same.

51 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Not surprising if you know her background, she's from military background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi

 

 

What I find surprising is that people find it surprising that the previous generation of military rulers can't shed their colors. Same same.

Never underestimate the general ignorance of Western types as it applies to contemporary and historic Asia. 

Everything they know is examined through Eurocentric conditioning........and the ever-present: Why can't they be like us schemes. 

 

Shouldn't surprise that everyday wannabe Western pundits have little understanding of Asian affairs, yet insist that they know all. 

2 hours ago, rgraham said:

We should look at the issue for what it is, they do not want muslims.

No, the issue is genocide. 

Edited September 13, 20187 yr by Bluespunk

24 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

Never underestimate the general ignorance of Western types as it applies to contemporary and historic Asia. 

Everything they know is examined through Eurocentric conditioning........and the ever-present: Why can't they be like us schemes. 

So what should they be like, then? Bragging to the world about the Thai, Burmese and Cambodian model of governance? Soldiers kicking in doors in the dead of night and working class folks never to be seen again? No bloody thanks.

If that makes me Eurocentric, so be it. At least we don't want that for ourselves or others. 

I firmly believe that NO ONE has the right/duty to interfere in the internal affairs of another nation, for whatever reason it is. Colonialism is over. UN is the most hypocritical organization I can think of.

5 minutes ago, Cletus said:

I firmly believe that NO ONE has the right/duty to interfere in the internal affairs of another nation, for whatever reason it is. Colonialism is over. UN is the most hypocritical organization I can think of.

Genocide overrides any claim that what is happening is an internal affair. 

7 minutes ago, Cletus said:

I firmly believe that NO ONE has the right/duty to interfere in the internal affairs of another nation, for whatever reason it is. Colonialism is over. UN is the most hypocritical organization I can think of.

Including genocide or ethnic cleansing ?