Kavanaugh accuser wants FBI investigation before she will testify - lawyer

[dpspike]

According to the law in America, the statute of limitations ran out on her accusation long ago. IMO, letting her speak to government officials or allowing the FBI to investigate her accusation is a misuse of law enforcement. My only question for her would be, "so it wasn't a crime until he was nominated?" Women who wait years to report these things detract from the credibility of those women who do report offenses promptly, despite the he-said she-said nature of their reports. Of course, the liberal American media hasn't been concerned with credibility for a long time. Ninety percent of the American news is nothing but drama and innuendo.

[Becker]

2 hours ago, pedro01 said:

 

And there you have it.

 

Our resident Alt-Leftist saying that that it must be true because she said so and he should be denied the position because... errr... she said so.

 

Good job that never in the history of humanity has a woman tried to destroy a mans life by accusing him of sexual assault. Except Bill Clinton of course - all of his accusers were just bitter women trying to destroy a great liberal man.

 

And there you have it. He did not say "it must be true".

Some of you man-child supporters don't actually read the posts you're replying to or you just don't understand what you read. Either way it's sad.

[riclag]

The resistance by the left have lost all credibility with this oneI.If she wanted to be unbias why didn’t she (Blatly) send 2 letters ,one to grassley and to finestein


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[Becker]

38 minutes ago, dcutman said:

Not sure where you are from. The Us Constitution and the first 10 of its amendments, called the Bill of Rights, is on the internet. You should actually read it before you make any more ridiculous statements that makes yourself look such a fool. 

As a man-child supporter you really shouldn't accuse others of looking like fools.

[Thakkar]

20 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

You know that's not true. Anyway why wait?  nothing about politics right?  they had the letter in July, it was unreported for 35 years and then this registered Democrat throws in the political grenade. All my points are truthful and accurate which cannot always be said for your liberal 'spin games'.

 

This guy has had 6 FBI checks, 100s hours of questions and was about to be confirmed. Then this woman throws in "he tried to take off my clothes"?  if you were A-political you would see the set-up which is the obvious elephant in the room. I don't want a conservative, right wing anti pro choice on SCOTUS but I hate this nasty partisan game playing (and both side do it).  Politics in the US is in the gutter.

 

You know it *is* true, unless all you follow are Fox News et all. Even on these threads, the main “pro Ford” demands are that there be an investigation of her claims. Kavanaugh’s previous FBI checks did not include checking this accusation and the subsequent corroboration by 200 people of its possible veracity.

 

Here’s what a real delaying tactic looks like: refuse to hold ANY hearings at all and run out the clock for ELEVEN months till the end of the nominating president’s term.

[welovesundaysatspace]

7 minutes ago, dpspike said:

 My only question for her would be, "so it wasn't a crime until he was nominated?" 

If that’s your only question it shows you have a pretty messed up understanding of the law. 

 

7 minutes ago, dpspike said:

Women who wait years to report these things detract from the credibility of those women who do report offenses promptly

Only in your opinion. Others have something called empathy which enables them to understand why a woman who encountered rape or sexual abuse might hold back with speaking out about it. 

 

7 minutes ago, dpspike said:

Of course, the liberal American media hasn't been concerned with credibility for a long time.

And I thought the serial liars and fake news producers Trump and Fox News are republican. 

 

7 minutes ago, dpspike said:

Ninety percent of the American news is nothing but drama and innuendo.

99% of the White House is nothing but drama and innuendo. 

[riclag]

The resistance by the left have lost all credibility with this oneI.If she wanted to be unbias why didn’t she (Blatly) send 2 letters ,one to grassley and to finestein


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[Sheryl]

Getting the accuser to show and testify under oath should really be the first thing. Witch upon this point she is not willing to do. Unless all the sudden the US constitution has changed to, guilty until you prove your innocents.
Judge has already stated publicly he does not know her or anything about what she is claiming. What do you want to do "water board" him until he gives the answer the Libs want?

I know he denies the assault but has he actually claimed he never even met her? That would be comparatively easy to disprove. Whereas the alleged attack had apparently only one witness and thst a friend of his (and possibly also drunk at the time)


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[riclag]

I wouldn’t be surprised thatthe dems have another women waiting in the wings . Over the weekend she will pop up and say The judge was a bad person 36 years ago


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[Jingthing]

15 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

I know he denies the assault but has he actually claimed he never even met her? That would be comparatively easy to disprove. Whereas the alleged attack had apparently only one witness and thst a friend of his (and possibly also drunk at the time)


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He has not claimed that he didn't know her and it seems doubtful that he will do that. If I'm wrong about that, please correct. Ford is describing him as someone that she knew, but not a friend. A friend of Kavanaugh is now floating a B.S. mistaken identity possibility. Ford vehemently denied that saying she was a friend of the boy being promoted as looking like Kavanaugh, even to the point of visiting him once in hospital, and saying there is "ZERO CHANCE" (her words) that she could have mistaken those two boys. 

 

You can see why the republicans want to railroad this through as quickly as possible. But if they do that, imagine the permanent stink of that man on the supreme court if/when even more damning evidence comes in later. 

 

A complete FBI investigation on this matter is the only ethical answer to this mess. What is Kavanaugh afraid of? The truth? If he was really innocent and REALLY wanted his name cleared permanently, it would be Kavanaugh himself lobbying for an FBI investigation!

Edited September 21, 2018 by Jingthing

[Becker]

9 minutes ago, riclag said:

I wouldn’t be surprised thatthe dems have another women waiting in the wings . Over the weekend she will pop up and say The judge was a bad person 36 years ago

I too wouldn't be surprised if another skeleton popped out of the closet. Kavanaugh was after all nominated by the man-child who probably has the bigliest skeleton closet in the world.

[neeray]

14 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

I know he denies the assault but has he actually claimed he never even met her? That would be comparatively easy to disprove. Whereas the alleged attack had apparently only one witness and thst a friend of his (and possibly also drunk at the time)


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I have read that there are persons who attended the same institution, same time and have stated that talk of the assault (subsequent to the assault) was common gossip, thus, supports that it did take place. An FBI investigation would prove this out, prove that the potential SCOTUS nominee is a liar.

This being the case, it is obvious why Trump will not involve the FBI.

[Jingthing]

To add, for people that don't know. Lying to the FBI is a very serious criminal offense. Ford has already approached the FBI, even had a lie detector test. She passed. Kavanaugh and his allies appear to be aggressively trying to block the FBI from investigating this. In this case, only the president can order them to do it and sleazeball president "trump" being "trump" (notorious p-----y grabber) of course he won't. If they did interview Kavanaugh about this specific incident and he was caught in a lie, he would not only not be on the supreme court, he might be going to a jail cell. It's funny with the republicans. Imagine how fast they'd want to lock up and throw away the key some poor black kid on similar charges. But a rich elite white guy, go ahead and put him on the supreme court in a position to further degrade civil rights of women, etc. without even wanting a freakin' INVESTIGATION. That party of "trump" needs to PAY for their gross hypocrisy. 

Edited September 21, 2018 by Jingthing

[Thakkar]

34 minutes ago, riclag said:

I wouldn’t be surprised thatthe dems have another women waiting in the wings . Over the weekend she will pop up and say The judge was a bad person 36 years ago

 

Since we’re purely speculating, I wouldn’t be surprised if a video emerges showing Kavanaugh committing unspeakable acts with a gerbil on top of a horse dressed as a unicorn with a dildo for a horn.

[riclag]

2 hours ago, Becker said:

I too wouldn't be surprised if another skeleton popped out of the closet. Kavanaugh was after all nominated by the man-child who probably has the bigliest skeleton closet in the world.

From what I understand the Left will show no quarter,to anything and everything PT touches ,speaks or stands for !!!!!! The left , dem's and PT haters would be totally clueless to think  that  strategies to deal with the left's totally unhinged sick obstruction tactics wasn't already discussed   long ago by PT and the forces of good over evil(left,liberals,and deranged PT hater's).Ford is just another tool  used by the many devious left  that will be  used to satisfy their sick means of stopping change.

 

One must recognized who is working in the background that over see the spread  of accusations and propaganda ,perhaps her lawyer,D,Katz , She has contributed articles to

"Ms. is an American liberal feminist magazine co-founded by second-wave feminists and sociopolitical activists Gloria Steinem and Dorothy Pitman Hughes. Founding editors were Letty Cottin Pogrebin, Mary Thom, Patricia Carbine, Joanne Edgar, Nina Finkelstein, and Mary Peacock. Ms. first appeared in 1971 as an insert in New York magazine". 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debra_Katz#Affiliations

 

 

Edited September 21, 2018 by riclag

[bristolboy]

23 minutes ago, riclag said:

From what I understand the Left will show no quarter,to anything and everything PT touches ,speaks or stands for !!!!!! The left , dem's and PT haters would be totally clueless to think  that  strategies to deal with the left's totally unhinged sick obstruction tactics wasn't already discussed   long ago by PT and the forces of good over evil(left,liberals,and deranged PT hater's).Ford is just another tool  used by the many devious left  that will be  used to satisfy their sick means of stopping change.

 

One must recognized who is working in the background that over see the spread  of accusations and propaganda ,perhaps her lawyer,D,Katz , She has contributed articles to

"Ms. is an American liberal feminist magazine co-founded by second-wave feminists and sociopolitical activists Gloria Steinem and Dorothy Pitman Hughes. Founding editors were Letty Cottin Pogrebin, Mary Thom, Patricia Carbine, Joanne Edgar, Nina Finkelstein, and Mary Peacock. Ms. first appeared in 1971 as an insert in New York magazine". 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debra_Katz#Affiliations

 

 

"One must recognized who is working in the background that over see the spread  of accusations and propaganda ,perhaps her lawyer,D,Katz ,..." Well, who is this person working in the background? Is it or isn't it "her lawyer,D.Katz"?

[bristolboy]

And here's some interesting information concerning a certain tweet...

"Mike Davis, the chief counsel on nominations for the Senate Judiciary Committee under Chairman Chuck Grassley, is being criticized for two tweets he posted and then deleted that called into question his objectivity regarding the sexual assault allegation that has been made against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. 

"Unfazed and determined. We will confirm Judge Kavanaugh. #ConfirmKavanaugh," read screengrabs of a deleted tweet sent from Davis' account at 10:22 p.m. EDT on Wednesday"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/20/brett-kavanaugh-confirmation-furor-over-mike-davis-tweets/1366391002/

[riclag]

10 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

"One must recognized who is working in the background that over see the spread  of accusations and propaganda ,perhaps her lawyer,D,Katz ,..." Well, who is this person working in the background? Is it or isn't it "her lawyer,D.Katz"?

Katz  contributes to liberal activism.She along with other activist are pulling the  country down by supporting a 36 year old accusation on someone that's been vetted 6 times by the FBI,one of those background checks was for the second highest judicial positions in your country.If her client ,Ford wanted to be a conscientious citizen she would of shown unbias transparency by contacting the committee minority and majority leaders with her letters. I stand by my previous post,it's all to obvious what the goal is,Resistance .  

[Thakkar]

40 minutes ago, riclag said:

the goal is,Resistance .  

 

The goal may well be Resistance. That doesn’t mean the accusation isn’t true.

 

The thing here is that it is invariably the wrongly accused that, as the aggrieved party, demands an investigation to clear their name. It is highly unlikely that a *false* accuser be the one asking for an investigation.

 

There are people, notably among GOP senators who will continue to support Kavanaugh even if the accusation turns out to be true. That is their prerogative. Equally, many will continue to oppose his nomination (for other reasons) even if the accusation turns put to be false.

 

Either way, the truth needs to come out for the following reason:

As a judge with a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land, this cloud should not hang over him as it opens him up to blackmail when some entity (on the Right OR Left) need his deciding vote in a matter of huge national consequence. (And all matters reaching the Supreme Court generally are of huge consequence).

 

The truth also needs to come out because the truth matters and because the aggrieved party, whoever it turns out to be, deserves that satisfaction.

[Srinivas]

Christine Blasey Ford did an amazing job of deleting her digital trail in advance.

Her highchool yearbooks were also recently deleted. At present there are only two pictures available online. Well done! Probably used a firm like Reputation Defender a bleach bit for online media removal service.

however

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

Christine Blasey Ford did an amazing job of deleting her digital trail in advance.

Her highchool yearbooks were also recently deleted. At present there are only two pictures available online. Well done! Probably used a firm like Reputation Defender a bleach bit for online media removal service.

however

Sick misogyny. "trump" fans -- get ready for the revenge of the women! 

[Srinivas]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Sick misogyny. "trump" fans -- get ready for the revenge of the women! 

[Thakkar]

27 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

Christine Blasey Ford did an amazing job of deleting her digital trail in advance.

Her highchool yearbooks were also recently deleted. At present there are only two pictures available online. Well done! Probably used a firm like Reputation Defender a bleach bit for online media removal service.

however

 

With posts like these, it’s a good thing you are aware of entities such as Reputation Defender.

Might want to put them on speed dial in the likelihood that you might  need to avail yourself of their services.

 

[Srinivas]

17 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

With posts like these, it’s a good thing you are aware of entities such as Reputation Defender.

Might want to put them on speed dial in the likelihood that you might  need to avail yourself of their services.

 

I knew about bleachbit from Hrc email stories, and learned of Reputation Defender from 

Christine Blasey Ford article.  These femenists are great teachers ?

 

[Thakkar]

6 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

These femenists are great teachers ?

 

...unless one is intent on learning all the wrong lessons.

[pedro01]

1 hour ago, Thakkar said:

 

The goal may well be Resistance. That doesn’t mean the accusation isn’t true.

 

The thing here is that it is invariably the wrongly accused that, as the aggrieved party, demands an investigation to clear their name. It is highly unlikely that a *false* accuser be the one asking for an investigation.

 

 

Nope.

 

Of course a false accuser would want an investigation. False accusations are made to hurt the people they accuse. 

 

It is a malicious act. So of course any false accuser would want to inflict maximum damage.

[Thakkar]

5 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

 

Nope.

 

Of course a false accuser would want an investigation. False accusations are made to hurt the people they accuse. 

 

It is a malicious act. So of course any false accuser would want to inflict maximum damage.

 

Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC)

9/20/18, 2:01 AM

A number of former prosecutors and FBI agents have said today that people who make up allegations tend not to demand that the FBI investigate them.

 

 

 

[Slip]

5 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

 

Nope.

 

Of course a false accuser would want an investigation. False accusations are made to hurt the people they accuse. 

 

It is a malicious act. So of course any false accuser would want to inflict maximum damage.

How would that happen when an investigation would be sure to find out the accusations were false?  The only way your logic makes sense if it was a fit up rather than only an accusation.

[pedro01]

1 minute ago, Slip said:

How would that happen when an investigation would be sure to find out the accusations were false?  The only way your logic makes sense if it was a fit up rather than only an accusation.

 

The accusations cannot be proved to be false.

 

You cannot prove a negative.

 

You have to prove that something DID occur. The burden of proof is on her to prove it happened.  She won't be able to do that.

 

In other words - she is safe either way. 

 

[Slip]

4 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

 

The accusations cannot be proved to be false.

 

You cannot prove a negative.

 

You have to prove that something DID occur. The burden of proof is on her to prove it happened.  She won't be able to do that.

 

In other words - she is safe either way. 

 

"False" was the wrong word to use.  'The accusations would be shown to be baseless' would be a better way to put it, at which point the accused would be vindicated.  I can't see that a false accuser would want that to happen.