Two foreign tourists fatally injured in Bangkok mall shooting

[webfact]

Two foreign tourists fatally injured in Bangkok mall shooting

By The Nation

 

 

Two foreign tourists were fatally injured and two Thais and another tourist hurt when a group of young men fired rifles at a rival gang near a Bangkok shopping mall Sunday night.
 

The shooting happened at 8.30pm on a soi behind the Centara Watergate Pavillion Hotel where tourist coaches were parked. The soi is off Ratchaprarop Road in Makkasan subdistrict of Ratchathewi district.

 

Police said Gakhrejr Dheeraj, 42, an Indian, and Keovongsa Thonekeo, 28, a Lao tourist, died later in hospital.

 

Another Indian tourist, Sharma Dharmendra, 45, was injured along with two Thai men, Thaksin Suk-iad, 22, and Pornthep Pumpuang, 23.

 

Pol Maj Gen Senit Samararn Samruajkit, commander of the Metropolitan Police Division 1, said three young men armed with rifles opened fire at their rivals following a dispute at a snooker parlour near the soi where the shooting took place.

 

Senit quoted witnesses as saying that they saw some 20 young men armed with pistols, knives and sticks running from the snooker parlour into the soi where three young men carrying rifles opened fire.

 

Senit said police have yet to investigate the type of rifles used but spent shells from the AK47 assault rile were found at the scene.

 

Juli Sawang-aroon, 62, a tour guide at the shopping mall, said the injured Indians belonged to a group of Indian tourists taken by coach to dine at the India Gate restaurant on the ground floor of the shopping mall.

 

After the dinner, the Indian tourists were given some time for shopping before the coach took them back to their hotel. Tourists who had finished their shopping returned to the car park on the soi to wait for their coach.

 

Senit said the rival gangs are believed to be made up of youngsters in the area.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30356011

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-10-08

 

[user564545]

Senit said police have yet to investigate the type of rifles used but spent shells from the AK47 assault rile were found at the scene.

 

That makes no sense at all.

If they don't know the type of rifles how do they know that the spent shells (empty cases) were from an AK47.

The AK47 uses 7.62mm ammunition but so do many other rifles/assault rifles.

[TomTao]

I hope the police have some idea which gangs were involved, the perps may already have records, if they do, track them down and get them off the streets. 

[mok199]

Why is this not bigger news than 4th from the top in the BKK section..

[hanbla]

Read yesterday "TAT asked Thai people to be good hosts to boost the tourism"....   did I miss anything?????

[user564545]

7 minutes ago, mok199 said:

Why is this not bigger news than 4th from the top in the BKK section..

 

Because they were not Chinese tourists.

[Khuai Lek]

Thank God there is no Chinese Tourists..!!!

 

Police have to fine on the gang for firing. 

[dcsw53]

LOS = Land of Shootings

 

[Darcula]

Watch this space for a Toad apology to India.

[scorecard]

20 minutes ago, secondfusilier said:

Senit said police have yet to investigate the type of rifles used but spent shells from the AK47 assault rile were found at the scene.

 

That makes no sense at all.

If they don't know the type of rifles how do they know that the spent shells (empty cases) were from an AK47.

The AK47 uses 7.62mm ammunition but so do many other rifles/assault rifles.

 

Good point, keep in mind that the quality of reporting by people from many Thai media organizations is very poor. Often it just means someone / a couple of people heard read a few words about the incident etc., and it's all pushed into a quick report, often with no checking for logic, etc.

 

You can see the same thing every day in reports which end up on many news gathering sites. 

 

 

Edited October 8, 2018 by scorecard

[mauGR1]

Shocking, words fail.

I can only wish the victims a good journey to a better world, hope the innocent injured people can recover.

[Kadilo]

This story will have a massive impact on Indian tourism 

Edited October 8, 2018 by Kadilo

[unamazedloso]

kids with ak47s? be very concerned! When i read it i see rifle and think oh just a long barell single shot 22 or even 303 and alike. something that takes too long to load, aim etc. but an ak47. Thats seriously troublesome!!

Great job bib for being absolutely useless and assiting in the need for everyone to cary guns.. 

[hansnl]

20 minutes ago, secondfusilier said:

Senit said police have yet to investigate the type of rifles used but spent shells from the AK47 assault rile were found at the scene.

 

That makes no sense at all.

If they don't know the type of rifles how do they know that the spent shells (empty cases) were from an AK47.

The AK47 uses 7.62mm ammunition but so do many other rifles/assault rifles.

7.62 X 39 is the cartridge for the AK family, Russian standard.

7.62 X 51 or the civilian .308 is a NATO cartridge.

Furthermore, an assault rifle is also a rifle.

The difference is that a military "assault" rifle has selective fire, semi automatic and automatic.

The iconic AK-47 and it's clones are very available on the black market.

So it is quite possible, seen the found shells, the rifles were AK-47.

Real forensic gurus can deduct a lot from the spent shells, type of weapon, kind of gunpowder, the age of the cartridge and the maker of the cartridge.

[user564545]

1 minute ago, hansnl said:

7.62 X 39 is the cartridge for the AK family, Russian standard.

7.62 X 51 or the civilian .308 is a NATO cartridge.

Furthermore, an assault rifle is also a rifle.

The difference is that a military "assault" rifle has selective fire, semi automatic and automatic.

The iconic AK-47 and it's clones are very available on the black market.

So it is quite possible, seen the found shells, the rifles were AK-47.

Real forensic gurus can deduct a lot from the spent shells, type of weapon, kind of gunpowder, the age of the cartridge and the maker of the cartridge.

 

I am aware of that but we are talking about the Thai police here, maybe they do have decent ballistic forensic scientists here but at this stage of the investigation the RTP haven't even got to the posed SOC photograph yet.

 

Chances are that it may well turn out to be an AK but with the details that are being published at the moment there is just no way to tell.

[Assurancetourix]

4 minutes ago, unamazedloso said:

kids with ak47s? be very concerned! When i read it i see rifle and think oh just a long barell single shot 22 or even 303 and alike. something that takes too long to load, aim etc. but an ak47. Thats seriously troublesome!!

Great job bib for being absolutely useless and assiting in the need for everyone to cary guns.. 

And kids on big motocycles without a license;

kids with machettes in a regular bus in the middle of every people like you and me 

You have to understand than the police here has only one thing to do :

make sometimes a toll on the middle of a road and take money from motorists .

 

Thailand, Land Of Smile, they say 

[klauskunkel]

5 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

wow. almost up to USA standards. Good job Thailand. But the way, what is a rile?

when you rile a Thai he will shoot you with an AK47

[Thian]

35 minutes ago, mok199 said:

Why is this not bigger news than 4th from the top in the BKK section..

Because no Chinese were hurt.....

[Ctkong]

Authorities those from secret society or gang prevention should come down hard onto the culprits... indiscriminate shooting into the crowd is very dangerous for the public. Done serious damage to tourism industry. Let’s see how big joke handle this one. 

[jossthaifarang]

3 minutes ago, Ctkong said:

Authorities those from secret society or gang prevention should come down hard onto the culprits... indiscriminate shooting into the crowd is very dangerous for the public. Done serious damage to tourism industry. Let’s see how big joke handle this one. 

Not his job anymore, but he would probably sort it out in no time..

[bluesofa]

48 minutes ago, mok199 said:

Why is this not bigger news than 4th from the top in the BKK section..

Are you suggesting some sliding scale of number of injuries/deaths against ranking in the news section?

It makes it sound more like a top of the pops shots review:

...new in at number two, the Columbine High School shooting.

 

[PhilippBKK]

Wild West in Pratunam....would be bigger news if dead were Caucasians or Chinese 

 

[Vacuum]

50 minutes ago, mok199 said:

Why is this not bigger news than 4th from the top in the BKK section..

 Because they were youngsters according to OP. Meaning, they'll only receive a slap on the wrist.

[Deli]

Red carpet line now for Indians as well ?

 

[Crash999]

19 minutes ago, Thian said:

Because no Chinese were hurt.....

Or Westerners. If it had been Westerners then it would be a BBC and CNN headline and the government would have to announce crackdown number 2311. 

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Senit quoted witnesses as saying that they saw some 20 young men armed with pistols, knives and sticks running from the snooker parlour into the soi where three young men carrying rifles opened fire.

Should be using the word 'cowards' instead of 'men' in the above...

[Lee4Life]

How is it that these gangs and youths have so many weapons? And wasn't a foreigner arrested not so long ago for having a bullet proof vest?  My prayers and thoughts are with the innocent victims, may they rest in peace.  

[PETERTHEEATER]

35 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

wow. almost up to USA standards. Good job Thailand. But the way, what is a rile?

It's what you get when a bullet clips you...????

[Darkside Gray]

40 minutes ago, hansnl said:

7.62 X 39 is the cartridge for the AK family, Russian standard.

7.62 X 51 or the civilian .308 is a NATO cartridge.

Furthermore, an assault rifle is also a rifle.

The difference is that a military "assault" rifle has selective fire, semi automatic and automatic.

The iconic AK-47 and it's clones are very available on the black market.

So it is quite possible, seen the found shells, the rifles were AK-47.

Real forensic gurus can deduct a lot from the spent shells, type of weapon, kind of gunpowder, the age of the cartridge and the maker of the cartridge.

You did say real forensic, said enough!

[mercman24]

some  chinese guy gets a smack in the chops, and its Big Headlines. now two innocent tourists get gunned down and not seen any words from the BIG BOSS. this needs to get out there, when found it should be the death penalty,  the old thai small dick syndrome rears its head again just dont think, dont care, not a problem for me if this stupid lot want to kill each other but all this over a game of pool