lkv Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, blackhorse said: 22 hours ago, lkv said: I'm kind of getting tired of this pre election "we want to look good" nationalistic abuse. They are just taking people off the street because it's picture time. I also don't agree with, "well if you haven't done anything wrong, it doesn't affect you" logic. It's been that opposite actually. The scum in the pic front and center have had a good run over the years. Time to boot them OUT! One would be naive to assume that they have been operating without the complicity of the Police. So like, we all know what happens at Nana, but the Police, especially the ones occasionally stationed there, no no, they don't know what's going on. Valid for every other area under Police monthly "protection". Edited October 13, 2018 by lkv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 An off topic bickering post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Some trolls and off topic posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, the guest said: Only western ppl make a big deal out of racism. The east and most parts of the world consider it as normal behavior to protect the culture, language and race of a country, many countries (which are the majority) are not multi-cultural. If you don't like racism, perhaps Thailand isn't the place for you. Seems you've never travelled with a Thai to a country where some people express racist sentiment towards Asians. Thai's do not like racism when aimed at them, one assumes same applies to you. Or do you smile and think to yourself - good to meet another racist. Edited October 13, 2018 by simple1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Some people on here are saying it is racial profiling but if they bothered to go back over the TVF threads over just the last month alone it would show that it has nothing to do with any particular race. There has been well over 1000 arrested in the last couple of weeks of many different races including Canadian, American, Brits and of course the many asians from Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam. So this is not a racial issue like some are claiming it is. It is a clean up of illegals in Thailand in preparation for the February election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theonetrueaussie Posted October 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 23 hours ago, sanemax said: Many TV posters were jumping with joy when , a few years ago , when they started clamping down on the tourist visa runners , those who stayed long term on tourist visas . Now the clampdowns are effecting them, they disapprove of the clampdowns I was thinking the same thing the other day, So many of the old pensioners here on the forum were all for the clampdown on people staying here long term on tourist visas and was very obvious they did not want/like digital nomads or young people staying here long term. Now the shoe is on the other foot and they are not happy with all the changes and clampdowns on them. The rest of us are sitting back and enjoying the "Karma". I suppose we can give them the same advice they gave us back then, Pay up for the elite visa or back to your home country you go lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 minute ago, theonetrueaussie said: I was thinking the same thing the other day, So many of the old pensioners here on the forum were all for the clampdown on people staying here long term on tourist visas and was very obvious they did not want/like digital nomads or young people staying here long term. Now the shoe is on the other foot and they are not happy with all the changes and clampdowns on them. The rest of us are sitting back and enjoying the "Karma". I suppose we can give them the same advice they gave us back then, Pay up for the elite visa or back to your home country you go lol. You don't have to pay up for the Elite Visa to be happy and secure here and I have never had a problem with Immigration here but it is good to see the clampdown on those that are illegal here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dorian232 Posted October 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 23 hours ago, lkv said: I'm kind of getting tired of this pre election "we want to look good" nationalistic abuse. They are just taking people off the street because it's picture time. I also don't agree with, "well if you haven't done anything wrong, it doesn't affect you" logic. There are rules for living here as there are in all countries, so follow the rules or go somewhere else. Thailand is a great place and I for one just want legal people to be here as I did in my home country when I lived there. I am in my 22 year of living here and never broken visa rules and never will I am too happy with.my Thai wife and her family. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Send them all to Spain,France and Germany where most of them have families with nice houses and great welfare systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 If you want to see racial profiling at its best hop off a plane in most of the African countries where you will be most welcomed.its all bs about the profiling.its just a case of most illegals not being white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMarKable Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 23 hours ago, lkv said: What makes you think that people staying long on tourist visas are being affected, where did you come up with that? I am staying long on tourist visas and that's not what concerns me, they can bl#w me as far as I am concerned since I am not on overstay. It's the vibe of a nanny state I am having a problem with, along with racial profiling, this coming from one of the most corrupted institutions, Royal Thai Police, and a non democratic administration. It comes from the whole government and population in general, not just the Thai police. Every department of government is corrupt, even the schools and universities. The populace has to deal with a patronage system where you pay those above you to get out of trouble or solve a problem. Thai people hate Indians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingjock Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 1:32 PM, Hayduke said: There is a further report that 237 rogue pigeons were also detained by police, but this cannot be confirmed. What they overstayed, or ate to much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhorse Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 One would be naive to assume that they have been operating without the complicity of the Police. So like, we all know what happens at Nana, but the Police, especially the ones occasionally stationed there, no no, they don't know what's going on. Valid for every other area under Police monthly "protection".I see the police lately always harassing the drug dealers in my soi. Flashlight [emoji363] out going over passports.Doesn't look like they are being protected to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I wish they would do this in UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Good these people make all of us forangs look bad. Get them out ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, blackhorse said: I see the police lately always harassing the drug dealers in my soi. Flashlight out going over passports. Doesn't look like they are being protected to me And i see some other things. Various schools under the protection scheme know in advance about raids. I see Police stopping on some highways or main roads, taking selfies of themselves and driving away, to have proof they are doing their job. In your example, I feel it may also be a face exercise, and then everything goes back to "normal". Even out of those arrested, many are released, once picture time is over. But that's just my impression. Edited October 13, 2018 by lkv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 1:51 PM, overherebc said: Agree. The guys from EU, USA etc who are on overstay are more likely to be living quietly somewhere low profile and not in their 20's/30's hanging around in groups in public view. ...2m tripods sort of stick out in the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kerryd Posted October 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 Funny, if they raid some language schools and bars and hotels and round up a bunch of "white" people that are on overstay, expired passports and/or have outstanding warrants, no one cries "racism" or "racial profiling". (Like when they used to do the tri-annual Uzbek hooker round-ups in Pattaya a few years ago.) The thing you don't see is, how many people were actually checked and not arrested as they weren't caught doing anything wrong. They may have checked 2000 Africans, 1000 Indians, 3000 "White guys" and 5000 Chinese and out of all of those ended up with 528 that were illegal for one reason or another. Oh and by the way - READ the article. "He said 114 were arrested for overstaying their visas, 172 for illegally entering the country and the rest for petty crimes. The majority of them are Indians and Pakistanis, with some Guineans and Malians, he added. On Thursday, 40 Indians were captured from Sampeng market in Chinatown. Itthipol said 30 foreigners were arrested from Nana area." (my bolding and underlining) I'm guessing that the numbers above are the ones arrested just in the Bangkok area and other 172 were from the rest of the country. And the arrests were from 307 different locations around the country so NO, it was NOT "go arrest anyone in Nana who is black". (And yes, the numbers don't seem to match but it could mean that they did a sweep in 307 different places and ended up with a total of 528 arrests, so it could be that a lot of those sweeps came up empty handed.) But because the accompanying photo showed a couple of Africans, some people were quick to jump on the "racism" bandwagon and decide that all of the people detained were black and only detained because of their skin colour. You want to see the true face of a racist ? Look in a mirror. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) On 10/12/2018 at 2:29 PM, humbug said: no its called chinatown now because of all the illegal indians, yeah right oh I'm sure you probably know what you are trying to say...maybe. Edited October 13, 2018 by Just Weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Kerryd said: But because the accompanying photo showed a couple of Africans, some people were quick to jump on the "racism" bandwagon and decide that all of the people detained were black and only detained because of their skin colour. You want to see the true face of a racist ? Look in a mirror. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2018/02/01/africans-indians-arrested-latest-raid-black-people/ Operation BLACK EAGLE: “In this raid on colored people, we found some people who had overstayed their visas,” Tourist Police Deputy Commissioner Maj. Gen. Surachet Hakpal said. “We searched restaurants, bars, party spots and eateries around Nana and Soi Cowboy. In so doing, we have secured a safer place for tourists and ensured their trust.” Edited October 13, 2018 by lkv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrunner Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Are their any "Old Guys" left to visit Nana Plaza? Used to be a favorite but, as with SOI 22 denizens, so many are gone the way of Patpong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Arrested but then what? A lot of these stories don't finish off. Fines - Jail - Deportation? Come on, tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 2:01 PM, lkv said: I'm kind of getting tired of this pre election "we want to look good" nationalistic abuse. They are just taking people off the street because it's picture time. I also don't agree with, "well if you haven't done anything wrong, it doesn't affect you" logic. First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) Since 8th October there has been 6 raids including this one and not all the raids netted "blacks", in fact only 2 raids netted any "blacks" All these reports were released on ThaiVisa Monday 8th = 22 Africans + 1 Myanmar, 8 of the Africans paperwork correct and released Wednesday 10th = 57 Pakistani's Thursday 11th = 100 Africans, no arrests as paperwork was in order Thursday 11th = 97 arrests = Indian, Loation, Cambodian and Vietnamese = 27 overstay and 43 illegal + 13 Thai's for failing to notify address of alien Friday 12th = 5 Burmese, 5 Indians and 1 Russian Friday 12th = It does not say how many Africans were arrested in this raid. If you look at the figures you will see that nowhere is there anything that points to these raids being racial because there is too big a mix of nationalities for it to be just about Africans. They are only after illegals that are from any country and you can search back through the ThaiVisa reports and you will find many more reports of arrests of foreigners who were here illegally and it is a big mix of nationalities so there is no racial discrimination here Edited October 13, 2018 by Russell17au 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 https://littleindia.com/117-foreign-nationals-including-indians-arrested-in-bangkok-in-ongoing-nationwide-crackdown/ "Hakpal said that the searches concentrated on “colored” people who arrived in Thailand to execute different kinds of crimes like romance scams, call center scams, prostitution, human trafficking and drug trafficking. Hakpal, who was leading the raids, repeated his order for a nationwide hunt for “illegal” foreigners, changing the name of the operation from “Operation Black Eagles” to “X-Ray Outlaw Foreigner,” according to the report." Cos BLACK didn't sound too good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post allanos Posted October 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 8 hours ago, iroc4life said: Yep me too, I’m still looking for my white privilege. Think someone else got mine. 8 hours ago, car720 said: I cannot figure out a way to take advantage of my race the way these guys do. Seems whenever they want to justify something it is because of their race and not just because they are crooked to the core. It is called "the politics of victimisation". Any time a person of colour is criticised (justly) over something, anything, they play the so-called "race card". And they play it very well. And well-meaning, but naive, liberals don't see through the sham, and fall over themselves to be apologists. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post allanos Posted October 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Will27 said: Racial profiling is an effective tool in law enforcement. So for example, if Immigration look at the stats and say "7 out of every 10 Africans we question in Nana have broken some type of law", does it not make sense to target them". That's not racism, that's good policing. You took the words out of my mouth. Racial profiling has been forbidden in the United Kingdom, for example, because it is not "politically correct", but it used to be a good and effective tool of policing there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuba Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 In the future this is gonna affect everyone. They don't want long term falangs here. Just our money. Fly in, blow your cash and <deleted> off back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 1:20 PM, Father Fintan Stack said: Good guys in, black bad guys out. Not too many pale faces there. As I expected. The Falangs who were paranoid a few days ago must be breathing easier now. Not so our African friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 lkv,,,, I think it is time you halved your midday medication,,, settle,,,, settle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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