Possible mass shooting at bar in Thousand Oaks, California

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Possible mass shooting at bar in Thousand Oaks, California

 

THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. -- Multiple people have reportedly been wounded in a shooting at a bar here, reports CBS Los Angeles.

 

Ventura County Sheriff's Deputies responded to the incident at about 11:30 p.m.

 

There were unconfirmed reports of multiple shots fired and that the suspect may have been hit, as well a deputy. The deputy was said to have non-life-threatening injuries.

 

Full story: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/possible-mass-shooting-at-bar-in-thousand-oaks-california-today-2018-11-08-live-updates/

 

-- CBS NEWS 2018-11-08

 

 

 

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'Mass shooting' at California bar

 

Police respond to mass shooting at bar in Thousand Oaks, California

 

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46135459

 

 

-- © Copyright BBC 2018-11-08

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Multiple people injured in shooting at a bar in Thousand Oaks, California

By Faith Karimi and Joe Sutton, CNN

 

(CNN)Multiple people were injured in a shooting Wednesday night at a local bar in Thousand Oaks, California, authorities said.

 

"Ongoing active shooter incident reported at Borderline in @CityofTO ," the Ventura County Fire Department tweeted.

 

"Please stay away from area. Active law enforcement incident. Multiple injuries reported. Details still being determined. Multiple ambulances requested."

 

Full story: https://us.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/thousands-oaks-california-bar-shooting/index.html

 

-- © Copyright CNN 2018-11-08

[sirmud63]

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

These shooters will always find a reason why they did what they did.

Obviously Trump doesn't help. But I would be surprised if the number of shootings in the USA changed significantly since Trump.

nah , its just a small part of a bigger problem , created by big pharma

[OneMoreFarang]

1 minute ago, sirmud63 said:

nah , its just a small part of a bigger problem , created by big pharma

There is an even bigger connection between all those shootings:

[sirmud63]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

There is an even bigger connection between all those shootings:

yep, and it all comes down to the loose nut behind the trigger .

[OneMoreFarang]

6 minutes ago, sirmud63 said:

yep, and it all comes down to the loose nut behind the trigger .

Yes, but it's a question of numbers.

Take i.e. 60 million lose nuts armed with stones or maybe kitchen knifes.

Or take the same 60 million nuts armed with assault rifles.

Now which group is more dangerous?

I know it must be a real difficult questions because Americans think about that for many years but they were not able to figure it out until now.

[sirmud63]

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Yes, but it's a question of numbers.

Take i.e. 60 million lose nuts armed with stones or maybe kitchen knifes.

Or take the same 60 million nuts armed with assault rifles.

Now which group is more dangerous?

I know it must be a real difficult questions because Americans think about that for many years but they were not able to figure it out until now.

yep , sure , but , its the damaged ones that are the most dangerous ,opioid addiction is is the root cause . 

its the govenments soft kill policy ,and mass shootings are just a trickle on effect . thats why they dont really give a <deleted>#k. if they did they would change the laws . 

[JAG]

Now, if the bartender's were armed...

[Jingthing]

12 dead.

[brewsterbudgen]

And still the pro-gun candidates for Governor and Senate in Florida got elected. I guess Americans just accept it.

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[snoop1130]

12 people including police officer killed, gunman also dead, in California bar shooting

by Rich McKay

 

First responders are seen outside Borderline Bar and Grill in Thousand Oaks, California, U.S. November 7, 2018 in this image obtained from social media on November 8, 2018. Thomas Gorden/via REUTERS

 

(Reuters) - A gunman killed 12 people, including a sheriff’s deputy, when he walked into a Southern California bar and grill and started shooting on Wednesday night, police said.

 

The gunman was also killed, Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean told a news conference on Thursday, though it was not immediately clear by whom.

 

An unknown number of people were also wounded during the attack at the Borderline Bar and Grill, a Country & Western venue in the Los Angeles suburb of Thousand Oaks where a crowd had gathered for a night of dancing, drinking and eating.

 

“It’s a horrific scene in there,” Dean said. “There is blood everywhere and the suspect is part of that.”

 

The sheriff’s deputy who died was identified as Sgt. Ron Helus, a 29-year-veteran of the department, Dean said.

 

No other victims were identified. The sheriff said the gunman has not been identified and there was no known motive for the shooting.

 

Accounts about the incident varied widely throughout the early morning hours with initial reports saying the suspect was in custody. But Sheriff Dean has since said that the gunman died at the scene.

 

Some social media accounts said a bearded man wearing a dark trenchcoat walked in and started shooting.

 

Witnesses told CNN that patrons were there for the “College Country” night with line-dancing, music, drinks and food, and the place was packed with a young crowd.

 

When the shots started, some people smashed windows with chairs to escape, witnesses told CNN.

 

Other witnesses and people posting on social media said that the man might have fired up to 30 times. Others reported fewer shots, and he might have tossed smoke bombs.

 

Officials said that shots were still being fired when the first officers arrived at the scene.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-11-8

[spidermike007]

12 dead including a sheriff. At least 12 more injured. When will this madness stop? The NRA still refuses to endorse background checks. The NRA is a terrorist organization. Let's be clear about that. They need to be outlawed.  And gun shows must end. Something has to be done. Something drastic. 

[Lacessit]

Australia demonstrated what could be done, America refuses to absorb the lesson. Too many cold dead hands.

[jvs]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

You forgot two point:

- No, the shootings have nothing to do at all with the huge number of legal weapons out there.

- We need more people with guns like teachers etc. to protect us against those killers.

Repeat

I rest your case,a like and a thank you!!!

[Psimbo]

Its a US problem and until the US decides to address it nothing will happen. i am totally indifferent to this as the culture there is so screwed up present and no one cares.

 

The Orange Buffoon doesn't help things.

[sammieuk1]

I'm shocked! but no I'm not another load full of holes in crazy land????

[Scott]

One post removed.   Until/unless there is specific information about the shooter, please stop with the political commentary.  

[riclag]

11 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

And still the pro-gun candidates for Governor and Senate in Florida got elected. I guess Americans just accept it.

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"Here Are 8 Stubborn Facts on Gun Violence in America"

 

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/here-are-8-stubborn-facts-gun-violence-america

 

Unfortunately there is no easy solution to this ! American's have millions of guns and we have laws that protect our rights to have them .So far little is known about this individual , except for the police saying they had dealings with this disturbed individual over the years while finding he didn't meet the guidelines of taking him to be evaluated further!

Edited November 8, 2018 by riclag

[metisdead]

Some troll posts have been removed. 

[stevenl]

40 minutes ago, riclag said:

"Here Are 8 Stubborn Facts on Gun Violence in America"

 

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/here-are-8-stubborn-facts-gun-violence-america

 

Unfortunately there is no easy solution to this ! American's have millions of guns and we have laws that protect our rights to have them .So far little is known about this individual , except for the police saying they had dealings with this disturbed individual over the years while finding he didn't meet the guidelines of taking him to be evaluated further!

Yes, there are easy solutions.

Always that pathetic 'too difficult, nothing can be done, too many guns around' excuse.

[Longcut]

13 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

There is an even bigger connection between all those shootings:

It was a handgun. Nice try.

[riclag]

10 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Yes, there are easy solutions.

Always that pathetic 'too difficult, nothing can be done, too many guns around' excuse.

OK

"Here Are 8 Stubborn Facts on Gun Violence in America"

 

https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/here-are-8-stubborn-facts-gun-violence-america

Edited November 9, 2018 by riclag

[OneMoreFarang]

19 minutes ago, Longcut said:

It was a handgun. Nice try.

This time it was a hand gun - but this a gun/rifle which was sold legally.

But the AR-15 seems to be the favorite weapon in most of these shootings. Maybe they can use that for their advertisement.

 

[attrayant]

307 mass shootings in 312 days.  Almost one mass shooting per day.

 

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, attrayant said:

307 mass shootings in 312 days.  Almost one mass shooting per day.

 

Seems more frequent?

That's because it is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/08/frequency-high-fatality-mass-shootings-has-increased-significantly/

The frequency of high-fatality mass shootings has increased significantly

[riclag]

8 minutes ago, attrayant said:

307 mass shootings in 312 days.  Almost one mass shooting per day.

 

Can we see one source for this  . I'm curious about what is considered a mass shooting and what sources they use for it. I don't disagree with the 307 in 312

 

[Fore Man]

I once lived in serene, picturesque Thousand Oaks. At the time they boasted of claiming title to the safest small city in the US. It’s a town where Hollywood stars and executives choose to live.  Great educational system too.  And now all that has been quashed by a crazed, lone, angry shooter. Unfortunately he was a military vet and I’m sure we’ll see another huge backlash mounting in the media and Congress against veterans who own firearms. One nutjob out of thousands of sane, law-abiding vets will satisfy/justify the coming bloodlust...

[attrayant]

28 minutes ago, riclag said:

Can we see one source for this.

 

The federal government defines it as three or more killings in a single incident.

 

 

Here's a list of them all:  https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

 

The Gun Violence Archive defines defines a mass shooting as a single incident in which four or more people, not including the shooter, are shot and/or killed at the same general time and location.  Note that the feds use the term "mass killings", which accounts for the differing definitions.  

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by attrayant

[cleverman]

11 hours ago, jvs said:

I rest your case,a like and a thank you!!!

307 mass shootings this year in USA. When Ozzies had their last mass shooting, over 30 years ago, our Govt. did not let all Ozzies get guns, no more mass shootings  since then so your argument flys out the window.