Extreme Brexit could be worse than financial crisis for UK: BoE

[SheungWan]

4 hours ago, aright said:

So what elements do they use to determine total wealth?

One observation, my wealth was predicated on the government not the Prime Minister and labour was in power from 1997 to 2010

For UK wealth statistics and other data, an excellent reference point is the ONS (Office of National Statistics: https://www.ons.gov.uk/

 

[SheungWan]

36 minutes ago, samran said:

But yeah, blue passports...

A pro-Brexit friend got all flustered at the reference to the blue passports. It has to be seen to be believed.

[SheungWan]

4 hours ago, bomber said:

answer the question i asked earlier "where are all these deals going to come from" you kept going on about

Better get a move on. https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-say-hundreds-of-companies-plotting-brexit-switch/

 

[tomacht8]

27 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Better get a move on. https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-say-hundreds-of-companies-plotting-brexit-switch/

 

All those who have something to lose (money, taxes, loss of revenue, cost increases) have their thoughts.

When it comes to money, the solidarity with the own postulated Brexit ideology apparently ceases.

For many are then the own pants closer than the shirt.

That Brexit without a plan, does not fill the stomach alone, and that Brexit is not a currency, with which you can pay off your loans for the house; many slow thinkers will notice it later.

 

Some of the Hard Core Brexiteers have already become active.

-Brexiter: Jim Ratcliffe, UK’s richest man, plans move to Monaco

-Brexiter: James Dyson moves Company to Singapore

-Brexiter: John Redwood advises investors to put money abroad

-Brexiter: Jacob Rees-Mogg firm opens funds in Dublin

-Brexiter: Nigel Lawson seeks French residency

[wilcopops]

Well they DID vote LEAVE didn't they? I don't think most Brexiteers realized that's what they meant, though.

[wilcopops]

1 hour ago, tomacht8 said:

All those who have something to lose (money, taxes, loss of revenue, cost increases) have their thoughts.

When it comes to money, the solidarity with the own postulated Brexit ideology apparently ceases.

For many are then the own pants closer than the shirt.

That Brexit without a plan, does not fill the stomach alone, and that Brexit is not a currency, with which you can pay off your loans for the house; many slow thinkers will notice it later.

 

Some of the Hard Core Brexiteers have already become active.

-Brexiter: Jim Ratcliffe, UK’s richest man, plans move to Monaco

-Brexiter: James Dyson moves Company to Singapore

-Brexiter: John Redwood advises investors to put money abroad

-Brexiter: Jacob Rees-Mogg firm opens funds in Dublin

-Brexiter: Nigel Lawson seeks French residency

a case of Ratcliffes leaving a sinking ship?

[Grouse]

 

Brexit explained for Brexiters by an American on HBO.

 

Surprisingly good! Recommended 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

 

Brexit explained for Brexiters by an American on HBO.

 

Surprisingly good! Recommended 

Like O'Brien? No thanks.

 

8 minutes later, got sucked in, what a waste of time. Thanks.

[Chelseafan]

4 hours ago, SheungWan said:

A pro-Brexit friend got all flustered at the reference to the blue passports. It has to be seen to be believed.

Especially as it's going to be produced in France as I understand it.

 

[dick dasterdly]

4 hours ago, SheungWan said:

A pro-Brexit friend got all flustered at the reference to the blue passports. It has to be seen to be believed.

Probably nearly as "flustered" as you and another poster, who seem to think brexiteers care about having a blue passport ????!

[Grouse]

Nice piece on the pound in your pocket commission by the BBC

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47212992

[Grouse]

25 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Like O'Brien? No thanks.

 

8 minutes later, got sucked in, what a waste of time. Thanks.

Sense of humour break down? Even American late night talk show hosts think Brexit is bloody stupid. If they get it,Brexit really IS stupid.

[welovesundaysatspace]

33 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Like O'Brien? No thanks.

 

8 minutes later, got sucked in, what a waste of time. Thanks.

It’s pretty good. Hit the nail. Of course Brexiteers don’t like to be confronted with reality. 

[sanemax]

8 hours ago, bomber said:

i have no time for lazy failure's in life who blame govts because they have failed,perhaps you have time for them,that is your choice,i dont ???? people are usually poor for a reason,i was brought up to work hard and be wise with money,maybe you had were not,good luck if you managed to do well without hard work.

Did you also work hard in school , was you studious ?

[bomber]

26 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Nice piece on the pound in your pocket commission by the BBC

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47212992

How many extra billions have brits spend overseas since brexit? Money that would of went into the UK economy

[talahtnut]

39 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Sense of humour break down? Even American late night talk show hosts think Brexit is bloody stupid. If they get it,Brexit really IS stupid.

Do you think the average American would be able

to find the UK on a map?

I am surprised you watch stuff like that, and the BBC.

[SheungWan]

1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said:

Probably nearly as "flustered" as you and another poster, who seem to think brexiteers care about having a blue passport ????!

They do!

[Grouse]

19 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

Do you think the average American would be able

to find the UK on a map?

I am surprised you watch stuff like that, and the BBC.

I don't. Youtube suggested, sir! Who am I to argue?

 

As for the BBC, they still have pockets of greatness but too few. They need to stop dumbing down everything and stop pandering to yoof. Yoof are a lost cause to television broadcasting anyway.  

[welovesundaysatspace]

29 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

I am surprised you watch stuff like that, and the BBC.

I assume you consider the Daily Mirror and Pat’s YouTube channel a better choice?

[talahtnut]

8 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

I assume you consider the Daily Mirror and Pat’s YouTube channel a better choice?

Not really, try the Wall Street Window.com.

The Decline and Fall of the European Union – Charles Hugh Smith (2019)

 

[aright]

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

It’s pretty good. Hit the nail. Of course Brexiteers don’t like to be confronted with reality. 

Do you mean the reality that in 1973 when the UK joined the EEC the resulting 9 member states accounted for 26% of the world economy. Now with 28 member states it accounts for 20% and forecasts say by 2050 it will be less than 10% (smaller than India).

Do you mean the reality of the EU loosing 5% of its market each year, youth unemployment, 1 trillion euro target2 debts owed to Germany which will never be paid.

Do you mean the reality of loosing the UK contribution, fishing rights, far right political parties and populism.

Do you mean the reality that the EU's market growth has been 2% for the last 10 years, the USA by 76%, China by 132% and Greece by minus 50% and there has been no growth in Italy since they joined the euro.

Do you mean the reality of a high-currency financial strait jacket and...…….sorry, I'm tired of typing.  

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, SheungWan said:

They do!

The urge to Gloat at the thought of you having to have one next time around hasn't gone amiss ????

[tebee]

17 hours ago, aright said:

Sorry to disappoint but no none of those reasons!  Stop rejoicing in the loss of 3500 jobs for the wrong reasons.

 

"Honda have been very clear – this decision has been made because of global trends and is not related to Brexit. The Turkey factory will also close as all European market production is being consolidated to Japan where the company is based.

This consolidation is made easier by the new EU-Japan trade deal which will allow Honda to produce their cars in Japan and import them into the EU, rather than produce the cars in Europe."

 

http://www.justintomlinson.com/news/4390-statement-on-honda

One of the defining characteristics of a cult is that they cling on to prophesy even as all the evidence demonstrates that their belief system is a fantastical dustbin of nonsense. You see it with the Seekers, you see it with the Branch Davidians. You see it with Brexiteers

[nontabury]

7 hours ago, SheungWan said:

A pro-Brexit friend got all flustered at the reference to the blue passports. It has to be seen to be believed.

That you have a friend. No I don’t beleive.

[sandyf]

Nobody is interested in any investigation that may prove they were manipulated.

Brexit means brexit, irrespective of how the result was obtained.

 

Theresa May must launch an independent investigation into “foreign influence and voter manipulation” in the Brexit vote, a committee of MPs says today, amid growing evidence of lawbreaking by Leave campaigners.

A highly critical report – which warns “democracy is at risk” from rogue practices on social media – turns its fire on the prime minister for the failure to probe their effect on the referendum result.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-vote-investigate-law-breaking-influence-manipulation-theresa-may-facebook-a8783746.html

[aright]

23 minutes ago, tebee said:

One of the defining characteristics of a cult is that they cling on to prophesy even as all the evidence demonstrates that their belief system is a fantastical dustbin of nonsense. You see it with the Seekers, you see it with the Branch Davidians. You see it with Brexiteers

You also see cultism with Remainers, almost religious in nature 

To people like yourself, any contradiction of EU values or actions is heresy. 

[billd766]

18 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

Chile has got absolutely excellent wine and excellent fish.

I don't know about the fish but their wine is excellent, far better than that French p1ss, and you can even buy it in Villa and I think I saw some in BigC.

Australian, S African, NZ, Chilean and Portuguese wines are much nicer than Euro plonk.

[bomber]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

I don't know about the fish but their wine is excellent, far better than that French p1ss, and you can even buy it in Villa and I think I saw some in BigC.

Australian, S African, NZ, Chilean and Portuguese wines are much nicer than Euro plonk.

Portugal is in europe,at least it was last week when i was there,maybe its gone under like so many of you lot have been predicting.????

[Grouse]

1 hour ago, talahtnut said:

Not really, try the Wall Street Window.com.

The Decline and Fall of the European Union – Charles Hugh Smith (2019)

 

I read it

 

Not quite my cup of tea

 

But thanks for the post

 

Never heard of him before, seems his roots are firmly American anti-colonialist.

 

https://www.oftwominds.com/bio4-14.html

[billd766]

8 hours ago, samran said:

Yes, a lot up for grabs as always, but trade talks are like playing water polo in molasses. But that is what you voted for I guess.

 

I had a chat with a senior trade negotiator they other day about another trade deal in the Pacific. Going nowhere cause the Indians aren’t in a rush. 

 

What you can achieve in the EU and within the EU in the space of a year trade wise most other nations take 10.

 

But yeah, blue passports...

 

Quote "What you can achieve in the EU and within the EU in the space of a year trade wise most other nations take 10."

 

Can you remind us all how long the EU/Canada deal took?

 

Surely it wasn't completed in a year.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Economic_and_Trade_Agreement

 

CETA is Canada's biggest bilateral initiative since NAFTA. It was started as a result of a joint study "Assessing the Costs and Benefits of a Closer EU-Canada Economic Partnership",[21] which was released in October 2008. Officials announced the launch of negotiations on 6 May 2009 at the Canada-EU Summit in Prague.[4][22]