Popular Post webfact Posted December 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2018 Many quitting agencies due to assets rule By THE NATION Public Health Minister Dr Piyasakol Sakolsatayadorn. Members of health organisations stepping down to avoid revealing their finances. SEVERAL BOARD members of key health organisations have been giving up their posts reportedly to avoid the new asset-declaration rule. At least four members of the National Health Security Office (NHSO) have already quit and many board members of the National Institute for Emergency Medicine (NIEM), the Health Systems Research Institute (HSRI) and the Healthcare Accreditation Institute (HAI) have said they will follow suit. Public Health Minister Dr Piyasakol Sakolsatayadorn yesterday urged those who had not tendered their resignation yet to wait at least until the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) clarifies the rule. “Let’s wait a bit. Things should get clearer before the end of this month,” he said. “Probably, after you declare your assets/liabilities to the NACC, the said information will be kept confidential”. Promulgated in the Royal Gazette on November 1, the new rule will go into effect on January 31. Under this rule, it will no longer just be political-office holders who will be required to declare their assets/liabilities to the NACC. Presidents of state universities and their council members, as well as top executives of public organisations and state funds, and the chiefs of Armed Forces including the police force, for instance, will also have to declare their assets. Dr Jiruth Sriratanaban, Chulalongkorn University’s medical lecturer, said he had decided to quit the board of HAI because he did not want his finances becoming public knowledge. It was reported that HAI board members Dr Surachet Satitniramai, a former deputy permanent secretary for Public Health, and Dr Boonruang Triruangworawat, a former director-general of the Mental Health Department, will also be stepping down. HSRI director Dr Nopporn Cheanklin, meanwhile, revealed that two board members of his institute have also expressed their intention to quit. “But no official resignations have been submitted yet,” he said. The NACC has postponed the start of the rule’s validity from December 2 to January 31 in response to stiff protests from members of state-run university councils. Initially, it was believed that university council members were the strongest opponents against the new asset-declaration rule. But now, it appears that board members of several health organisations are not happy with the rule either. A source said that three NIEM board members have said they will step down to avoid the asset-declaration requirement. “One of them is a representative of non-profit organisations,” it added. NHSO yesterday convened a meeting to select four new board members to replace the four specialist board members who have decided to leave. “We have received resignations from two more board members. We don’t have to select their replacements because these two are representatives of the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration and the Pharmacy Council. Their organisations have already named their replacements,” Piyasakol, who chairs the NHSO board, said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30359790 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-12-04 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted December 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2018 A source said that three NIEM board members have said they will step down to avoid the asset-declaration requirement. “One of them is a representative of non-profit organisations,” it added. Just about sums up the corruption ! A total disgrace, the lot of them, and they should be investigated anyway. 20 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I'm shocked by this: totally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Carib Posted December 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2018 Invest in watches, claim they belong to a deceased person. It is a proven strategy.. They will let it slip for sure. 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VincentRJ Posted December 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2018 The new legislation should have included the rule that anyone who resigns after the announcement of the legislation, and before the official implementation of the legislation, will automatically be investigated, for the obvious reasons that they might have something to hide, whatever the reason they give for their resignation. 28 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post George Bowman Posted December 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2018 Presidents of state universities and their council members, as well as top executives of public organisations and state funds, and the chiefs of Armed Forces including the police force, for instance, will also have to declare their assets. Speaking of assets, this is what I have learned. I like to travel around my neck of the woods in a sidecar/farm truck and take photos. Occasionally, I will spot a humongous house or resort out in the boonies and take a picture. I then show the place to my wife and ask who lives there. If she doesn't know, then the photo goes on a Line group and eventually, I found out who lives in the big house. Go ahead and take a guess as to what each and every owner has in common. Probably just a coincidence... 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rkidlad Posted December 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2018 It’s liks a Thai version of an amnesty for the corrupt. Amazing (and sad) how entrenched corruption here is. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oziex1 Posted December 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2018 Speaking of assets, this is what I have learned. I like to travel around my neck of the woods in a sidecar/farm truck and take photos. Occasionally, I will spot a humongous house or resort out in the boonies and take a picture. I then show the place to my wife and ask who lives there. If she doesn't know, then the photo goes on a Line group and eventually, I found out who lives in the big house. Go ahead and take a guess as to what each and every owner has in common. Probably just a coincidence... Starts with an R ends with a P only one letter in the middle. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lungstib Posted December 3, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2018 Not only does this point to people with something to hide it also suggests they would rather give up their jobs than let the public know their wealth. One can only assume they have decent savings and dont actually need the job. So let someone have it who needs it. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Shameless douche bags . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Members of health organisations stepping down to avoid revealing their finances. good, sounds like the wrong people were in those jobs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebell Posted December 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2018 Starts with an R ends with a P only one letter in the middle. Anyone for tea? All resignees should have their finances investigated as a matter of course. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Will they get out AND stay out? This current trend reminds me of when condo has those men come around with leaf blower style smoke insecticide sprayers hit all the drain pipes etc in parking lots... cockroaches fleeing in terror. Letting them resign without investigation does make it seem they're just blowing smoke... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post saigonsunset Posted December 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2018 My guess ... they will resign to sort out their finances, i.e. transfer the wealth to some relative, and then be asked to return to their offices and posts because to their 'valuable' service to society and because Thailand doesn't have anyone better to do it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 The new legislation should have included the rule that anyone who resigns after the announcement of the legislation, and before the official implementation of the legislation, will automatically be investigated, for the obvious reasons that they might have something to hide, whatever the reason they give for their resignation. Many things in LOS should be done / implemented, but guess you can't screw your mates - so give them a morally corrupt means to duck-out and live happily ever after. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artisi Posted December 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2018 It’s liks a Thai version of an amnesty for the corrupt. Amazing (and sad) how entrenched corruption here is. Morally corrupt, but isn't that the foundation for most things Thai? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchega Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Actually quite understandable. Its not about having nothing to hide. Its about drawing a target on your head and your family members. This means any one you slighted in the land of small members, imagine from overtaking them to not noticing them will have an easy method of attack. an expensive or time consuming audit any time, your assets of land, real estate, gold, stocks, income etc, not to mention those of your children and spouse all up there for any one to see. You would have to be stupid to agree to it. even with these disclosures the junta have been immune to this what with the blokey with 10 million baht watches etc. in a land of corruption you had better be corrupt or at least hide the fact that you are not. the comments on here remind me of the arsewipes at home who get all riled up when you don't want to pay taxes. yes I was born to be a slave and at least 50% of every pound or dollar I earn belongs to my masters. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebean001 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Corruption prevents an organization from doing good things for the public. Health care could be expanded to support citizens health, road care could save lives, disasters can be avoided or reduced. etc etc Corruption cost the citizens a better life. Interesting event about 15 years ago in Costa Rica. They have 0 tolerance for corruption (at that time). The president got a free plane ticket to go to USA to review WIFI. He came back and found himself under house arrest. He was removed from office (I think). Wooow. That is hard! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Actually quite understandable. Its not about having nothing to hide. Its about drawing a target on your head and your family members. This means any one you slighted in the land of small members, imagine from overtaking them to not noticing them will have an easy method of attack. an expensive or time consuming audit any time, your assets of land, real estate, gold, stocks, income etc, not to mention those of your children and spouse all up there for any one to see. You would have to be stupid to agree to it. even with these disclosures the junta have been immune to this what with the blokey with 10 million baht watches etc. in a land of corruption you had better be corrupt or at least hide the fact that you are not. the comments on here remind me of the arsewipes at home who get all riled up when you don't want to pay taxes. yes I was born to be a slave and at least 50% of every pound or dollar I earn belongs to my masters. Yea, all those arsewipes who aren't stealing from public funds that are supposed to help people less fortunate. Time to start stealing from tax payer's money, everyone. You don't wanna be slaves all your life! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CGW Posted December 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just about sums up the corruption ! A total disgrace, the lot of them, and they should be investigated anyway. Who would investigate them? would they have to declare their assets also? ???? Doubt they could find anyone in this country that has not been tainted with some form of corruption! 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Actually quite understandable. Its not about having nothing to hide. Its about drawing a target on your head and your family members. This means any one you slighted in the land of small members, imagine from overtaking them to not noticing them will have an easy method of attack. an expensive or time consuming audit any time, your assets of land, real estate, gold, stocks, income etc, not to mention those of your children and spouse all up there for any one to see. You would have to be stupid to agree to it. even with these disclosures the junta have been immune to this what with the blokey with 10 million baht watches etc. in a land of corruption you had better be corrupt or at least hide the fact that you are not. the comments on here remind me of the arsewipes at home who get all riled up when you don't want to pay taxes. yes I was born to be a slave and at least 50% of every pound or dollar I earn belongs to my masters. Therefore corruption is ok and acceptable, as for drawing a target on your head - karma. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted December 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2018 I guess these people don't have "dead friends." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1duckyboy Posted December 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2018 So this new law isn't meant to catch wrong-doers but instead give them a warning and time to escape scrutiny. Good job, Thailand. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchega Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Artisi said: Therefore corruption is ok and acceptable, as for drawing a target on your head - karma. no, thats not the point corruption is not ok but drawing a target on your head in a country like this stupid! imagine you have some gold in your safe at home, I am sure we all have thought about the future even if we have not prepared now all your neighbours know you have gold, how much you have, how it was paid for, how much you earn, etc. etc. if you are innocent of any crime or corruption would you still want your neighbours or the parents at your kids school to know this information? if you are doing a deal for some land do you really want someone to know exactly how much money you have before ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Draining the swamp, Thai style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Krataiboy said: Draining the swamp, Thai style. yep, remove crocodiles first.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) There are two sides: 1. corrupt officials who don't want their wealth revealed because they are unusually wealthy 2. corrupt officials who don't want their wealth revealed because they are less wealthy than everyone thinks they are (face loss) Edited December 4, 2018 by Fex Bluse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 12 hours ago, 1duckyboy said: So this new law isn't meant to catch wrong-doers but instead give them a warning and time to escape scrutiny. Good job, Thailand. As we know, in this ancient culture, you must leave them a way to save face, a way out. If you don't, there will be blood. Face is the main currency 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchega Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 On 12/4/2018 at 10:20 PM, Fex Bluse said: There are two sides: 1. corrupt officials who don't want their wealth revealed because they are unusually wealthy 2. corrupt officials who don't want their wealth revealed because they are less wealthy than everyone thinks they are (face loss) if you lived in the us and you were asked to reveal all income and assets in detail for public viewing would you be happy to do? of course you would not, it would not matter if you worked flipping burgers and rented or was middle managaement owning 2 cars 2 houses a boat, shares, gold, a retirement fund you would have to be stupid to let that happen given the choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 hiso with loso morality.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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