Former Trump adviser Flynn to be sentenced for lying to FBI

[webfact]

Former Trump adviser Flynn to be sentenced for lying to FBI

By Jan Wolfe

 

U.S. National Security Adviser General Michael Flynn delivers a statement daily briefing at the White House in Washington, U.S., February 1, 2017. REUTERS/Carlos Barria/Files

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A judge will decide on Tuesday whether former national security adviser Michael Flynn should be sent to prison for lying to the FBI in a case stemming from the investigation into possible collusion between President Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russia in the run-up to the 2016 election.

 

U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan will sentence Flynn in Washington at 11 a.m. ET (1600 GMT).

 

Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, who is leading the investigation into Russian interference, has asked Sullivan not to imprison Flynn, a former general, because of his military service and because he provided "substantial" cooperation with the probe.

 

Flynn pleaded guilty in December 2017 to lying to FBI agents about his conversations with Sergei Kislyak, Russia ambassador in Washington at the time.

 

Flynn told investigators in January 2017 that he had not discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with Kislyak, when in fact he had, according to his plea agreement.

 

Lying to the FBI carries a statutory maximum sentence of five years in prison. Flynn's plea agreement states that he is eligible for a sentence of between zero and six months, however, and can ask the court not to impose a fine.

 

Flynn’s lawyers have asked the court for a probation term of no more than one year, with minimal conditions of supervision, and 200 hours of community service.

 

Flynn also deserves leniency because he was not warned before the meeting with FBI agents that it was a crime to lie to them, his lawyers said in a recent court filing.

 

They also said that then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe had told Flynn that the "quickest way" to conduct the interview was without counsel present.

 

Critics of the Mueller probe argue that Flynn, who held the White House job for only 24 days, was set up.

 

Mueller last week countered in a court filing that Flynn had no cause to lie in the interviews and added that a "sitting National Security Adviser, former head of an intelligence agency, retired Lieutenant General, and 33-year veteran of the armed forces knows he should not lie to federal agents."

 

Flynn is so far the only member of Trump’s administration to plead guilty to a crime uncovered during Mueller's wide-ranging probe, which has so far ensnared 32 individuals and three Russian firms.

 

Trump denies there was any collusion and has labelled the investigation a "witch hunt." Russia also denies it meddled in the election, contrary to the conclusion of U.S. intelligence agencies.

 

On Monday, Sullivan ordered the special counsel to release a redacted, five-page FBI account of Flynn’s January 2017 interview, saying it was relevant to his sentencing.

 

(Reporting by Jan Wolfe; Editing by Sonya Hepinstall)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-12-18

[Boon Mee]

 Flynn was caught in a perjury trap designed to cripple the incoming administration. 

???? % Trump will pardon him. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

11 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

 Flynn was caught in a perjury trap designed to cripple the incoming administration. 

???? % Trump will pardon him. 

What’s “a perjury trap”?

[Silurian]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Flynn also deserves leniency because he was not warned before the meeting with FBI agents that it was a crime to lie to them, his lawyers said in a recent court filing.

 

Yeah, a real brainiac that Flynn. Felonious Trump only hires the best and most intelligent people. Pfftt...

 

Gosh, is it a crime to lie to the FBI? Gosh, who knows? Flynn was only the national security adviser. Not like that job requires anything like intelligence or a modicum of understanding of basic laws.

 

[riclag]

1 hour ago, Boon Mee said:

 Flynn was caught in a perjury trap designed to cripple the incoming administration. 

???? % Trump will pardon him. 

The federal judge will either throw it out of court,which is a possibility or he will get a pardon! One way or another he'll get a lucrative book deal and if it's thrown out of court ,  reason being, that the FBI defined the judges order to hand over all documents by 3pm Friday! He'll file a several million dollar civil law suit! Good for him

Edited December 18, 2018 by riclag

[bristolboy]

24 minutes ago, riclag said:

The federal judge will either throw it out of court,which is a possibility or he will get a pardon! One way or another he'll get a lucrative book deal and if it's thrown out of court ,  reason being, that the FBI defined the judges order to hand over all documents by 3pm Friday! He'll file a several million dollar civil law suit! Good for him

I looked for verification of your claim that Mueller defied the judge. Not even Fox News reports that. I'm guessing it came from one of the nearly infinite number of right wing websites specializing in fiction.

[Srinivas]

21 minutes ago, riclag said:

The federal judge will either throw it out of court,which is a possibility or he will get a pardon! One way or another he'll get a lucrative book deal and if it's thrown out of court ,  reason being, that the FBI defined the judges order to hand over all documents by 3pm Friday! He'll file a several million dollar civil law suit! Good for him

Well Meuller finally filed 2 identical copies of the 302, but not the handwritten memos. At the 11th hour, though actually late by judges order of 3pm.

1 st copy a draft dated 3 weeks after Flynn setup interview(policy is 302 to be filed within 5 days

This coincides with the text msg between the fbi lover couple, Peter n Lisa

 

2nd Copy from 3 months later with the DRAFT wording removed. hmm ok.

 

Meuller is answering questions ahead of time in the cover letter to the judge.

basically saying "look judge, I know this looks suspicious but look both copies are exactly identical and we have a digital certificate to prove the first copy is legit, so nothing to see here"

Except the 302 was filed by the lovers who were fired for bias as their txt msgs imply.

And what happened to the original handwritten memos? 

 

Looking forward to what the judge says about all this.

 

 

 

 

 

[Srinivas]

17 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I looked for verification of your claim that Mueller defied the judge. Not even Fox News reports that. I'm guessing it came from one of the nearly infinite number of right wing websites specializing in fiction.

Defied as in did not comply fully with Friday "deadline" for all the Flynn memo to be provided to the court.

Which is why they were filed with an interesting cover letter at the 11th hour on the eve of sentencing date. But still did not provide the initial handwritten notes . 

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2018 by Srinivas

[bristolboy]

41 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

Well Meuller finally filed 2 identical copies of the 302, but not the handwritten memos. At the 11th hour, though actually late by judges order of 3pm.

1 st copy a draft dated 3 weeks after Flynn setup interview(policy is 302 to be filed within 5 days

This coincides with the text msg between the fbi lover couple, Peter n Lisa

 

2nd Copy from 3 months later with the DRAFT wording removed. hmm ok.

 

Meuller is answering questions ahead of time in the cover letter to the judge.

basically saying "look judge, I know this looks suspicious but look both copies are exactly identical and we have a digital certificate to prove the first copy is legit, so nothing to see here"

Except the 302 was filed by the lovers who were fired for bias as their txt msgs imply.

And what happened to the original handwritten memos? 

 

Looking forward to what the judge says about all this.

 

 

 

 

 

You got a source for this? I didn't find anything about it on fox news.

[mtls2005]

Will succeed Olliver North as president of the NRA, at some point. The physical gyrations trump and his minion are putting themselves through to try and paint all seventeen (17) investigations into the president as WITCH HUNTS is almost laughable.

 

The trump "legal" pushback on Flynn has tried to paint the FBI as "entrapping" Flynn - Peter Strozk did the interview hence the personal attacks on him by trump/twitter.

 

Mueller released a memo detailing the interview today.

 

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5633260/12-17-18-Redacted-Flynn-Interview-302.pdf

 

Mueller releases memo detailing 2017 FBI interview with Flynn

 

Special counsel Robert Mueller on Monday night released a memo detailing then-national security adviser Michael Flynn's interview with FBI agents, in which Flynn repeatedly lied about his contacts with former Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

 

The FBI officials who interviewed Flynn, including former agent Peter Strzok, gave him multiple opportunities to describe his conversations with Kislyak. Flynn denied that he spoke to the then-Russian ambassador about sanctions.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/421796-mueller-releases-memo-detailing-2017-fbi-interview-with-flynn

 

 

Flynn’s Work for Turkey Laid Out in Charges Against Two Others

 

Michael Flynn’s cooperation with Special Counsel Robert Mueller led prosecutors to charge two Flynn associates over their work on behalf of Turkey, in an indictment unsealed the day before Donald Trump’s former national security adviser is to be sentenced.

 

Bijan Rafiekian, also known as “Bijan Kian,” and Kamil Ekim Alptekin, were accused of helping the government of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan retaliate against a political opponent, and then concealing the government’s involvement. While many of the activities described in the indictment had been previously reported, prosecutors revealed details about the role of the Erdogan administration and the depth of Flynn’s illicit activities.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-17/two-michael-flynn-associates-indicted-in-virginia-federal-court

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2018 by mtls2005

[IAMHERE]

2 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

What’s “a perjury trap”?

Talking to the FBI is my guess. That guy should of known to lawyer up and do not talk to the agents.

[Srinivas]

2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

You got a source for this? I didn't find anything about it on fox news.

 

5 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

You got a source for this? I didn't find anything about it on fox news.

 

 

 

re: judge 2nd order yesterday again see pic and dates for 1 st order of 12th

the rest is my deduction

re: cover letter, see pic

[mtls2005]

2 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

What’s “a perjury trap”?

 

In this case?

 

It's where you conspire with Russians, Turks, God knows who else, get overheard by at least five separate intelligence services and then lie about it.

 

 

[NaamGin]

The judge presiding over the sentencing of Flynn is the same judge that thru out charges against Senator Ted Stevens when the justice department tried to railroad him too by omitting exculpatory evidence.

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/12/judge_in_flynn_case_demands_more_documents_before_passing_sentence.html 

 

quote from article

The Washington Post notes that Judge Sullivan has in the past thrown out a conviction of a politician based on prosecutorial misbehavior.

The judge is well known for his concern about defendants receiving fair treatment from the government.  He also issues a standard warning to prosecutors to turn over any and all information to a defendant that could be helpful in their defense, including any evidence of government misconduct.

Sullivan famously threw out a jury's 2008 public corruption conviction of U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens after it was discovered that prosecutors and agents had hid [sic] evidence of key government witnesses giving conflicting accounts.

The fact that McCabe at the DOJ told Flynn that this was just a conversation and that he did not need a white house attorney present during the meeting, then used the conversation against him is a clear case of entrapment.  The FBI / DOJ had the transcripts of the telephone conversation and Flynn knew it. It would be stupid to lie under these conditions and he didn't... Mueller bankrupted him and threatened to prosecute his son and business partners if he did not accept a plea deal. 

 

To those not paying attention, Flynn was also the head of DIA under Obama. That is until he resigned due to disagreements with the Obama admin over middle east policy. Then he returns as National Security Advisor under Trump. Is it any wonder why the deep state wants to shut him up, like where the bones are buried for Libya, Syria, ISIS, etc. 

 

But hey, what do I know. It appears that it's a crime for the incoming head of the DIA to actually talk to the ambassador of another country during the transition phase of administrations...   

 

[mtls2005]

12 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

That is until he resigned due to disagreements with the Obama admin

Flynn was fired by Obama. Further Obama provided two simple warnings to trump: Flynn is tainted - don't hire him, North Korea is your biggest challenge.

 

12 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

The fact that McCabe at the DOJ told Flynn that this was just a conversation and that he did not need a white house attorney present during the meeting, then used the conversation against him is a clear case of entrapment.  The FBI / DOJ had the transcripts of the telephone conversation and Flynn knew it. It would be stupid to lie under these conditions and he didn't... Mueller bankrupted him and threatened to prosecute his son and business partners if he did not accept a plea deal. 

 

Feel free to provide something to back this narrative up?

 

9 minutes ago, NaamGin said:
But hey, what do I know. It appears that it's a crime for the incoming head of the DIA to actually talk to the ambassador of another country during the transition phase of administrations...   

 

We have one government at a time for a reason. Flynn was the incoming NSA, National Security Adviser. He lasted 23 days (2 Scaramuccis), and was fired for lying to VP Pence. He's a liar.

 

 

Edited December 18, 2018 by mtls2005

[NaamGin]

10 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

In this case?

 

It's where you conspire with Russians, Turks, God knows who else, get overheard by at least five separate intelligence services and then lie about it.

 

 

 

Or you get setup by the prior administration because you resigned over clashes with the State Dept and the Obama administration over their middle east policies.

 

After 33 years in the military, including 5 years of combat, then rise to the level of Director of the DIA, you really think he's a traitor? 

 

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

The judge presiding over the sentencing of Flynn is the same judge that thru out charges against Senator Ted Stevens when the justice department tried to railroad him too by omitting exculpatory evidence.

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/12/judge_in_flynn_case_demands_more_documents_before_passing_sentence.html 

 

quote from article

The Washington Post notes that Judge Sullivan has in the past thrown out a conviction of a politician based on prosecutorial misbehavior.

The judge is well known for his concern about defendants receiving fair treatment from the government.  He also issues a standard warning to prosecutors to turn over any and all information to a defendant that could be helpful in their defense, including any evidence of government misconduct.

Sullivan famously threw out a jury's 2008 public corruption conviction of U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens after it was discovered that prosecutors and agents had hid [sic] evidence of key government witnesses giving conflicting accounts.

The fact that McCabe at the DOJ told Flynn that this was just a conversation and that he did not need a white house attorney present during the meeting, then used the conversation against him is a clear case of entrapment.  The FBI / DOJ had the transcripts of the telephone conversation and Flynn knew it. It would be stupid to lie under these conditions and he didn't... Mueller bankrupted him and threatened to prosecute his son and business partners if he did not accept a plea deal. 

 

To those not paying attention, Flynn was also the head of DIA under Obama. That is until he resigned due to disagreements with the Obama admin over middle east policy. Then he returns as National Security Advisor under Trump. Is it any wonder why the deep state wants to shut him up, like where the bones are buried for Libya, Syria, ISIS, etc. 

 

But hey, what do I know. It appears that it's a crime for the incoming head of the DIA to actually talk to the ambassador of another country during the transition phase of administrations...   

 

"But hey, what do I know. "

Yes, agree with you there.

[NaamGin]

6 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Flynn was fired by Obama. Further Obama provided two simple warnings to trump: Flynn is tainted - don't hire him, North Korea is your biggest challenge.

 

 

Feel free to provide something to back this narrative up?

 

9 minutes ago, NaamGin said:
But hey, what do I know. It appears that it's a crime for the incoming head of the DIA to actually talk to the ambassador of another country during the transition phase of administrations...   

 

We have one government at a time for a reason. Flynn was the incoming NSA, National Security Adviser. He lasted 23 days (2 Scaramuccis), and was fired for lying to VP Pence. He's a liar.

 

 

 

Frankly, I don't believe anything that came out of Obama's mouth. 

 

You believe your version of reality and I will believe mine. That's what makes the world go round. 

 

[mtls2005]

9 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

Or you get setup by the prior administration because you resigned

 

Stop with the nonsense. He was fired by Obama.

 

9 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

After 33 years in the military, including 5 years of combat, then rise to the level of Director of the DIA, you really think he's a traitor? 

 

No. Who said he was a traitor, I mean sure, you implied it, but no one is going there so hang back.

 

Most who knew/know him respected him, but they also say he lost his way.

 

Leading chants of "lock her up" is clear evidence that he failed to uphold the ideals of the country he served.

 

 

[mtls2005]

7 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

You believe your version of reality and I will believe mine. That's what makes the world go round. 

 

OK, thanks. I assumed you didn't have anything to back up your narrative. The storming off with your ball is all we needed to hear from you on this matter.

 

The sentencing, both courtroom and document, should be interesting.

 

Flynn is said to be somewhat keen to continue cooperating. The over/under on days before trump calls him a rat is 10.

 

 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2018 by mtls2005

[Slip]

22 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

The judge presiding over the sentencing of Flynn is the same judge that thru out charges against Senator Ted Stevens when the justice department tried to railroad him too by omitting exculpatory evidence.

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/12/judge_in_flynn_case_demands_more_documents_before_passing_sentence.html 

 

quote from article

The Washington Post notes that Judge Sullivan has in the past thrown out a conviction of a politician based on prosecutorial misbehavior.

The judge is well known for his concern about defendants receiving fair treatment from the government.  He also issues a standard warning to prosecutors to turn over any and all information to a defendant that could be helpful in their defense, including any evidence of government misconduct.

Sullivan famously threw out a jury's 2008 public corruption conviction of U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens after it was discovered that prosecutors and agents had hid [sic] evidence of key government witnesses giving conflicting accounts.

The fact that McCabe at the DOJ told Flynn that this was just a conversation and that he did not need a white house attorney present during the meeting, then used the conversation against him is a clear case of entrapment.  The FBI / DOJ had the transcripts of the telephone conversation and Flynn knew it. It would be stupid to lie under these conditions and he didn't... Mueller bankrupted him and threatened to prosecute his son and business partners if he did not accept a plea deal. 

 

To those not paying attention, Flynn was also the head of DIA under Obama. That is until he resigned due to disagreements with the Obama admin over middle east policy. Then he returns as National Security Advisor under Trump. Is it any wonder why the deep state wants to shut him up, like where the bones are buried for Libya, Syria, ISIS, etc. 

 

But hey, what do I know. It appears that it's a crime for the incoming head of the DIA to actually talk to the ambassador of another country during the transition phase of administrations...   

 

This isn't what entrapment is:

Quote

The fact that McCabe at the DOJ told Flynn that this was just a conversation and that he did not need a white house attorney present during the meeting, then used the conversation against him is a clear case of entrapment.

 

 

[riclag]

35 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

The fact that McCabe at the DOJ told Flynn that this was just a conversation and that he did not need a white house attorney present during the meeting, then used the conversation against him is a clear case of entrapment.  The FBI / DOJ had the transcripts of the telephone conversation and Flynn knew it. It would be stupid to lie under these conditions and he didn't... Mueller bankrupted him and threatened to prosecute his son and business partners if he did not accept a plea deal. 

Good point-It all goes back to NY Prosecutors and the  FBI and Mueller hiding behind Sources and Methods.I and many others find it a gross injustice that the FBI and Prosecutors are allowed to mislead,lie,intimidate,deceive, coerce, squeeze and trick people into composing and talking! Judge Emmit Sullivan and Judge Napolitano have talked about this! 

Edited December 18, 2018 by riclag

[mtls2005]

Another fine mess you've gotten us into Mike.

 

Document: Michael Flynn Associates Charged in Gulen Extradition Effort

 

A grand jury in the Eastern District of Virginia has indicted Bijan Rafiekian and Kamil Ekim Alptekin, both associates of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, for efforts to secure the extradition of cleric Fethullah Gulen from the United States to Turkey. The document is available here and below.

 

https://www.lawfareblog.com/document-michael-flynn-associates-charged-gulen-extradition-effort

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5631926-USA-v-Rafiekian-and-Alptekin.html

 

 

 

 

[mtls2005]

 

 

 

[mikebike]

43 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

You believe your version of reality and I will believe mine. That's what makes the world go round.

Only in bizarro world...

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Will succeed Olliver North as president of the NRA, at some point. The physical gyrations trump and his minion are putting themselves through to try and paint all seventeen (17) investigations into the president as WITCH HUNTS is almost laughable.

 

The trump "legal" pushback on Flynn has tried to paint the FBI as "entrapping" Flynn - Peter Strozk did the interview hence the personal attacks on him by trump/twitter.

 

Mueller released a memo detailing the interview today.

 

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5633260/12-17-18-Redacted-Flynn-Interview-302.pdf

 

Mueller releases memo detailing 2017 FBI interview with Flynn

 

Special counsel Robert Mueller on Monday night released a memo detailing then-national security adviser Michael Flynn's interview with FBI agents, in which Flynn repeatedly lied about his contacts with former Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

 

The FBI officials who interviewed Flynn, including former agent Peter Strzok, gave him multiple opportunities to describe his conversations with Kislyak. Flynn denied that he spoke to the then-Russian ambassador about sanctions.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/421796-mueller-releases-memo-detailing-2017-fbi-interview-with-flynn

 

 

Flynn’s Work for Turkey Laid Out in Charges Against Two Others

 

Michael Flynn’s cooperation with Special Counsel Robert Mueller led prosecutors to charge two Flynn associates over their work on behalf of Turkey, in an indictment unsealed the day before Donald Trump’s former national security adviser is to be sentenced.

 

Bijan Rafiekian, also known as “Bijan Kian,” and Kamil Ekim Alptekin, were accused of helping the government of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan retaliate against a political opponent, and then concealing the government’s involvement. While many of the activities described in the indictment had been previously reported, prosecutors revealed details about the role of the Erdogan administration and the depth of Flynn’s illicit activities.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-17/two-michael-flynn-associates-indicted-in-virginia-federal-court

 

 

 

The NRA as it exists today will not exist after Mueller’s inquiry.

[Tug]

God some people are funny mr Flynn is in many ways an admirable guy that being said he was an intelligence officer he knows without a shread of doubt ya don’t lie to the FBI to suggest otherwise is just a fantasy take the blinders off the guy knowingly lied to the FBI he is getting off easy because of his service and rightly so imo

Edited December 18, 2018 by Tug

[Kieran00001]

7 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

 Flynn was caught in a perjury trap designed to cripple the incoming administration. 

???? % Trump will pardon him. 

 

He did not want to admit to colluding with the Russians, so he lied, where is the trap?  You lot really are getting more desperate by the day.

[Kieran00001]

4 hours ago, riclag said:

Good point-It all goes back to NY Prosecutors and the  FBI and Mueller hiding behind Sources and Methods.I and many others find it a gross injustice that the FBI and Prosecutors are allowed to mislead,lie,intimidate,deceive, coerce, squeeze and trick people into composing and talking! Judge Emmit Sullivan and Judge Napolitano have talked about this! 

 

Talk about desperate!  Now there is something wrong with the FBI when they catch a criminal!  He did not have to lie, he made that choice, and he made that choice because they were on to his crimes, deal with it, you support a bunch of criminals who are working for Russia, they are traitors, what does that make you?

[Kieran00001]

5 hours ago, NaamGin said:

 

Frankly, I don't believe anything that came out of Obama's mouth. 

 

You believe your version of reality and I will believe mine. That's what makes the world go round. 

 

 

Alternative versions of reality are what have been making Trumps world go round, looks like not for much longer though, then back to just the one version of reality.