UK PM May urges devolved nations to back her Brexit deal

[webfact]

UK PM May urges devolved nations to back her Brexit deal

 

Britain's Prime Minister Theresa May leaves 10 Downing Steet in London, Britain, December 17, 2018. REUTERS/Toby Melville

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Theresa May will urge the devolved nations of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to "listen to business" at a meeting on Wednesday and back her Brexit deal, which envisages continuing close ties with the EU.

 

A day after her government said it would implement plans for a no-deal Brexit in full, May was due to stress how her deal works for all parts of Britain, her office said.

 

"I am confident that what we have agreed delivers for the whole of the UK," she was due to say ahead of the meeting.

 

"That’s why it is more important than ever that the devolved administrations get behind this deal and listen to businesses and industry bodies across all four nations who have been clear that it provides the certainty they need."

 

May is due to meet the First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon, new First Minister of Wales Mark Drakeford and representatives of the Northern Ireland Civil Service at her Downing Street office.

 

She will update them on plans being made for every eventuality including leaving the EU without any kind of a deal, plans that include setting aside space on ferries to ensure a regular flow of medical supplies and keeping 3,500 armed forces personnel on standby to support contingency plans.

 

With just 100 days until Britain is due to leave the EU, May has yet to win the support of a deeply divided parliament for the deal she struck last month with Brussels.

 

She has said a delayed vote on her deal will take place in mid-January, prompting some lawmakers to accuse her of trying to force parliament into backing her by running down the clock as the March 29 exit day approaches.

 

Sturgeon, leader of the independence-minded Scottish National Party (SNP), has accused May of not listening to Scottish opinion and has likened her Brexit deal to taking a blindfolded leap off a cliff.

 

The Welsh Assembly also rejected the deal in a symbolic vote earlier this month. Northern Ireland has been without an executive since January 2017 when the governing parties, Sinn Fein and May's allies at Westminster, the DUP, split after a fierce row.

 

A so-called backstop plan to avoid the reintroduction of a hard border between the Irish republic and Northern Ireland remains one of the principal obstacles to parliamentary agreement on May's deal.

 

"From the Scottish Fishermen's Federation and Diageo <DGE.L>, to Airbus <AIR.PA> and Manufacturing Northern Ireland, business and industry right across the UK want to us to deliver this deal as it gives them the clarity and stability they need to protect jobs and living standards," May was due to say.

 

(Reporting by Stephen Addison; editing by James Davey)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-12-19

[leither69]

It's called, grasping at straws

[baboon]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

She will update them on plans being made for every eventuality including leaving the EU without any kind of a deal, plans that include setting aside space on ferries to ensure a regular flow of medical supplies and keeping 3,500 armed forces personnel on standby to support contingency plans.

And we are meant to find this reassuring, are we? Christ almighty...

[evadgib]

Her deal will fail in Jan & this 'millennium bug' lark will prove to be utter baloney.

[Fred31]

1 hour ago, leither69 said:

It's called, grasping at straws

Say NO to Theresa May and to the malign Brexit. We want to stay in the EU, better for us, better for our children!

[Jip99]

2 minutes ago, Fred31 said:

We want to stay in the EU, better for us, better for our children!

 

Over 17 million Brits disagree with you.

[luckyluke]

3 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

Over 17 million Brits disagree with you.

The problem with the " United " Kingdom :

Over 16 million Brits agree.

[Jip99]

1 hour ago, luckyluke said:

The problem with the " United " Kingdom :

Over 16 million Brits agree.

 

Indeed.

 

But 1.3 million is still a majority.

 

 

 

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

 

Over 17 million Brits disagree with you.

 

And over 16 million agreed with him. 

 

That's why, given the amount of lies that have been exposed and the facts and information now available either: 

• a GE should be called in which parties can publish their Remain or Brexit strategy in their manifesto
• a new referendum which many are calling for
• a real parliamentary debate and free vote (and MP's should consult their constituents) on whether to leave or remain,

Immediate action would be to withdraw Article 50 and stop this current nonsense. Should the British people chose to leave subsequently, it must be on fully informed information including what they are leaving for. 

 

But hypocrite May, and anti UK and anti EU communist Corbyn won't do anything because the current mess suits their own agendas. 

 

Pandering to the glorified council leaders of minority parts of the UK population is a stupid idea, that won't work, increases their already over inflated self opinion, and provides a mouth piece for their usual totally unconnected rhetoric which they hope masks their dismal performance in their real day to day jobs.

 

Absolute crap heap, with sign of anyone with the ability and courage to sort it out!

[RuamRudy]

30 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

Indeed.

 

But 1.3 million is still a majority.

 

 

 

But this thread is about the devolved nations. My country voted 62/38 to remain in the EU. Since then, polling has shown that support in Scotland for remaining in the EU has risen to 74%. I am more than happy for the English to have whatever flavour of Brexit they wish for, but the vast majority of my countrymen want nothing to do with it. More power to Sturgeon's elbow - she is the only politician in the UK showing conviction, consistency and leadership.

[grumpy 4680]

     Once were out, and the dust has settled, we will be better off outside, and free of EU meddaling, and with a bit of luck we'll see an end to the European fiasco, once and for all.

 

[IssanMichael]

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

 

Over 17 million Brits disagree with you.

Its too late, Cameron said he would let the people decide in a simple referendum   "to stay or leave" the people voted leave thats it F*** remainers lost deal with it.

 

[luckyluke]

33 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

But 1.3 million is still a majority.

Sure, just wanted to mention that it isn't easy to govern a country where nearly 1/2 of the citizens have a totaly different opinion than the other 1/2.

 

Also taking in consideration that it isn't like an unsual voting, where people can eventually change their mind after x years.

 

In my opinion a simple majority was not the way to decide about the well-being & future of a nation.

 

But it is now what it is.

[RuamRudy]

3 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Sure, just wanted to mention that it isn't easy to govern a country where nearly 1/2 of the citizens have a totaly different opinion than the other 1/2.

 

Also taking in consideration that it isn't like an unsual voting, where people can eventually change their mind after x years.

 

In my opinion a simple majority was not the way to decide about the well-being & future of a nation.

 

But it is now what it is.

I agree with your sentiment, but I don't think your explanation is correct - the UK is a union of 3 countries and 6 counties, not a single country in itself. 

Only 2 of the countries backed Brexit - the others, in this so called union of equals, comprehensively rejected it but it is being foisted upon them nonetheless. So not only have you got a riven English opinion, the union itself is being torn asunder. 

[luckyluke]

13 minutes ago, grumpy 4680 said:

with a bit of luck we'll see an end to the European fiasco, once and for all.

 

Why you want this ?

The majority of the U.K. voters decided to leave the E.U.

Fair enough, why wishing bad to the E.U. ?

If other countries of the E. U. wish to leave, up to them.

[dick dasterdly]

2 hours ago, baboon said:

And we are meant to find this reassuring, are we? Christ almighty...

Of course we're not supposed to find this reassuring!

 

We're supposed to believe her propaganda "I am confident that what we have agreed delivers for the whole of the UK," - and that:-

 

1) The uk will fall apart in the event of no deal - requiring the army to intervene and

2) the deal loved by her and the eu is not leave in name only ????!

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

Over 17 million Brits disagree with you.

And over 17 million agree, including the million plus living in the EU who were denied a vote on the matter.

[Chomper Higgot]

55 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Of course we're not supposed to find this reassuring!

 

We're supposed to believe her propaganda "I am confident that what we have agreed delivers for the whole of the UK," - and that:-

 

1) The uk will fall apart in the event of no deal - requiring the army to intervene and

2) the deal loved by her and the eu is not leave in name only ????!

If you’ve already switched off your critical functions to be able to believe Johnson, Gove, Rees-Mogg and Farage you can believe any lie you are told.

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said:

Of course we're not supposed to find this reassuring!

 

We're supposed to believe her propaganda "I am confident that what we have agreed delivers for the whole of the UK," - and that:-

 

1) The uk will fall apart in the event of no deal - requiring the army to intervene and

2) the deal loved by her and the eu is not leave in name only ????!

 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If you’ve already switched off your critical functions to be able to believe Johnson, Gove, Rees-Mogg and Farage you can believe any lie you are told.

Heavy sigh....

 

I don't for one minute believe any politician, as I know they are only interested in themselves....

 

Please answer the points made in my post, rather than attacking the poster.

[baboon]

1 hour ago, IssanMichael said:

Its too late, Cameron said he would let the people decide in a simple referendum   "to stay or leave" the people voted leave thats it F*** remainers lost deal with it.

 

Why should we have to deal with it. Your lot clearly can't. How come their is no leaving arrangement after over two years, given the negotiations were to be the easiest deal in human history?

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, baboon said:

Why should we have to deal with it. Your lot clearly can't. How come their is no leaving arrangement after over two years, given the negotiations were to be the easiest deal in human history?

Because the politicians have no intention of leaving, but are finding their avenues towards remaining severely reduced....

 

They'd hoped that the never ending fear campaign would change views, but as far as I can make out it's only hardened views?

 

The negotiations for a trade agreement should have been easy, bearing in mind that the uk had the same standards as the eu - but the eu has still (two years later....) shown no interest in talking about trading agreements, and for some obscure reason, neither has the uk ????!

[baboon]

4 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

They'd hoped that the never ending fear campaign would change views, but as far as I can make out it's only hardened views?

The tanking Pound, loss of confidence and job losses being part of this campaign?

[Grouse]

5 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

Over 17 million Brits disagree with you.

I seriously doubt that.

 

But who cares? Parliament is sovereign and does not need to bow to a moronic idea.

[Grouse]

3 hours ago, IssanMichael said:

Its too late, Cameron said he would let the people decide in a simple referendum   "to stay or leave" the people voted leave thats it F*** remainers lost deal with it.

 

It is not our fault that YOUdont  understand

 

Cameron committed HIS government and HIS party. NOT  parliament.

 

Also not our problem so many working class think they are CONs

[dick dasterdly]

24 minutes ago, baboon said:

The tanking Pound, loss of confidence and job losses being part of this campaign?

I doubt many brits are paying much attention to the fall of sterling, and the only reason for a loss of confidence is politicians and money makers ever stating that brexit would result in devastation for the uk.....

 

Job losses?  Let's wait and see.

 

Incidentally, I'd prefer you quote my entire post (it's against forum rules not to do so....), which was:-

 

Edited December 19, 2018 by dick dasterdly

[dick dasterdly]

31 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Because the politicians have no intention of leaving, but are finding their avenues towards remaining severely reduced....

 

They'd hoped that the never ending fear campaign would change views, but as far as I can make out it's only hardened views?

 

The negotiations for a trade agreement should have been easy, bearing in mind that the uk had the same standards as the eu - but the eu has still (two years later....) shown no interest in talking about trading agreements, and for some obscure reason, neither has the uk ????!

Please respond to the points raised, rather than answering your own (preferred...) questions....

[dick dasterdly]

26 minutes ago, Grouse said:

I seriously doubt that.

 

But who cares? Parliament is sovereign and does not need to bow to a moronic idea.

Yes, because you (like me) think that MPs are intelligent, knowledgeable and not at all interested in their own personal financial interests.....  Except you've admitted that you too think otherwise!

 

Which is why I'm at a loss at to why you still think MPs should be the deciding factor?

 

Surely not because they are looking to their own self-interest, and so support your POV?? ????

[Thingamabob]

6 hours ago, Fred31 said:

Say NO to Theresa May and to the malign Brexit. We want to stay in the EU, better for us, better for our children!

Rubbish

[dick dasterdly]

30 minutes ago, Grouse said:

It is not our fault that YOUdont  understand

 

Cameron committed HIS government and HIS party. NOT  parliament.

 

Also not our problem so many working class think they are CONs

Who is "our" when you say -  'Also not our problem so many working class think they are CONs'?

 

But I do agree with you insofar as I'm at a loss as to why so many poor and ordinary people support the conservative (as you say, "CONs) party ☹️.

Edited December 19, 2018 by dick dasterdly

[dunroaming]

4 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

Of course we're not supposed to find this reassuring!

 

We're supposed to believe her propaganda "I am confident that what we have agreed delivers for the whole of the UK," - and that:-

 

1) The uk will fall apart in the event of no deal - requiring the army to intervene and

2) the deal loved by her and the eu is not leave in name only ????!

May is certainly racking up the pressure with her latest ploy of "preparing" for a no-deal Brexit.  3,500 troops on standby and sending a letter to every business warning them to prepare for the fallout etc. etc.  She is enthusiastically practicing project fear now in the hope it will give MPs no choice but to vote for her deal.  By delaying the vote to late January she leaves little time for any other options.  It's a strategy that might work but could easily backfire.  Maybe she feels now she has nothing to lose.  She will be handing over anyway so if the UK is screwed why should she care. 

Edited December 19, 2018 by dunroaming