A speedway bike rider has no brakes on his bike but he stays alive and in the race by looking and planning ahead and riding accordingly 

What about using a helmet?

On 1/3/2019 at 10:44 AM, webfact said:

Much of the problem was not bad riding but the brakes, they claimed. 

clueless <deleted>wits

I imagine being hit by a pick-up, a car or a lorry by another wreckless, drunk Thai has nothing to do with the bad brakes of the bike

Imbeciles

A speedway bike rider has no brakes

They crash quite often too [emoji39]

13 minutes ago, Rimmer said:

A speedway bike rider has no brakes on his bike but he stays alive and in the race by looking and planning ahead and riding accordingly 

...and they're all going in the same direction.

The worst brainless drivers are the motorcycle taxis. They seem to think they possess some very special driving skills, enable them to get trough any traffic, with unbelievable stunts that belongs in a circus.

Hardly anything to do with bad brakes but with:

• Young kids driving motorcycles
• Too many people on a motorcycle
• No (proper) helmets
• Unqualified drivers
• Not enough penalties when getting caught breaking the rules
• Too many U-turns

Edited January 3, 20197 yr by FritsSikkink

Another excuse


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The ABS brakes only help if they are locked 100% of the time so the braindead somchais and nois can't start driving in the first place.

Looks like the bad breaks issue leaves a motorbiker dead at the scene while a car break failure leaves them running from the scene.

28 minutes ago, johng said:

No I'm saying its not just the drivers fault,  road conditions play a part in the high accident rate too.

Hmmm.........drive to suit the road conditions was a mantra we were taught when first using a m/bike.

 

And as an aside I saw the ultimate idiot driving a m/c here 2 days ago...............youngish Thai guy, no helmet, one hand on the handlebar whilst using his iPhone, then taking both hands off to enable him to text, still travelling at about 30-35 kph; all this on a very busy road!

 

You can't fix stupid.

4 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Hardly anything to do with bad brakes but with:

• Young kids driving motorcycles
• Too many people on a motorcycle
• No (proper) helmets
• Unqualified drivers
• Not enough penalties when getting caught braking the rules
• Too many U-turns

Spot on with the u-turns. They were probably OK when there wasn't so much traffic on the roads but now they are just dangerous, with people taking risks just to get into the flow on the other side, causing a danger to themselves and other drivers.

 

I'd add the lack of rear and headlights onto your list.

 

Personally, I blame it on Thanos.

Yes, they export all the bikes with ABS. The Thais are left with all the bikes with less effective hub brakes...

 

Wait a minute, hubs, hubs? Where have I seen that word before, isn't a "hub" the most desirable thing...

Speechless....

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3 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Hmmm.........drive to suit the road conditions

Yes all very well going at 10KPH,  might as well walk ????

how do you tell when a nice bit of road will suddenly turn into  a rutted and pot holed bit ?

how do you tell when there is diesel or sand  on a corner..

how do you tell when a soi dog will run out across your path from behind a rubbish bin on the side of the road

How do you see unlit/signed U-turns on a fast road  at night

(maybe the U-turner has a bag in basket on front of bike or just no lights)

 

of course if you are local then  you (should) get to know where all the danger points are

doesn't help the non locals....but that what the twig warning barrier is for.

 

I bet the average age is 21 or their abouts..and yet the carnage continues and the police get lazier

30 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Hmmm.........drive to suit the road conditions was a mantra we were taught when first using a m/bike.

 

And as an aside I saw the ultimate idiot driving a m/c here 2 days ago...............youngish Thai guy, no helmet, one hand on the handlebar whilst using his iPhone, then taking both hands off to enable him to text, still travelling at about 30-35 kph; all this on a very busy road!

 

You can't fix stupid.

One could hope for a single-vehicle crash.

2 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

Bad brakes?  Hardly. More like Bad, Reckless Drivers.

 

2 hours ago, bluesofa said:

bad lying by the press and driver irresponsibility to blame.

Doesn't have same ring to it, does it?

Both these responses put the blame where it fits!! To expand, the other elements are poor driving skills, look at training for licence.. Just B/S??? Second, Speed & driver inability to handle bike at speed!! Finally, police do little enforce road laws... seldom stop, charge & convict reckless bike drivers, increase penalties & fines for convictions!!

1 hour ago, Vacuum said:

Correct, and you or any westener will never understand their way of thinking (or is it non-thinking) no matter how long we've stayed in the country. They are just - different.

Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet.

Rudyard Kipling was correct.

1 hour ago, Vacuum said:

Correct, and you or any westener will never understand their way of thinking (or is it non-thinking) no matter how long we've stayed in the country. They are just - different.

 

They are not "just" different.

 

They have been specifically indoctrinated with an attitude/outlook that is different to the specific indoctrination of Westerners.

 

To understand look at the origins and structure of their belief system, their "world view" (and your own while you are at it).

 

Anyone who does not understand how they/we come to be what they/we are has not been paying attention.

 

Edited January 3, 20197 yr by Enoon

Amazing! after five years and therefore ten '7 dangerous days' campaigns, being told all this time that it was drunkenness, speeding and failure to wear helmets that was causing all these deaths. I've now discovered that it's the poor brakes that are to blame.

 

So they need to do is fix the brakes and it's 'problem solved'. RIGHT, GET TO IT!

 

IDIOTS! 

 

2 minutes ago, Enoon said:

Anyone who does not understand how they come to be what they are has not been paying attention.

That's not what I said. I said we westerners can't understand how they think.

If this 'it's the lack of proper (ABS) brakes' BS were the case then why wouldn't the death toll be just as high in a number of other comparable nations where the exact same models of motorcycle are used on the roads? 

 

Honestly, 'pass the buck at all costs' is the order of the day in LOS far too often. They can't drive for sh*t; hardly any have a drivers license, understand the simplest forms of road safety and have next to no regard for themselves or other motorists. It's as simple as that, pretending otherwise is simply obfuscation and face-saving. On the bright side, perhaps a wee bit of social-Darwinism is at work here? The most stupid and reckless of them will die out and therefore, with a little luck, the gene-pool should improve some. Here's to hoping anyway...Harsh, but true.

 

Happy New Year! ????

 

Edited January 3, 20197 yr by CanterbrigianBangkoker

Like a lot of things it's not what you've got it's how you use it.

My pcx brakes work 100% and my Isuzu too.never had the abs kick in because I don't drive that hard.

......not to mention texting whist riding.

I've bought about 5 2ndhand bike (clicks, finos, etc) since I've been here.. Everyone of them the breaks have hardly worked.  Seized (both on & off) discs, or badly adjusted cables to the rear, or leaking (empty) hydraulics.

Usually only a few 100 bt to repair/replace, but the Thais don't seem to care.