Saudi woman held at Bangkok airport says fears death if sent back

[realenglish1]

4 hours ago, anon7854 said:

Something in this story doesn't add up. How on earth can you board a plane or leave a country without a passport? 

It's easy  I had a friend do it. So your math is fuzzy

[anchadian]

It has been reported that her father is a governor in Saudi Arabia. That means that he has muscle behind her family’s attempt to forcibly repatriate her. SHE IS IN DANGER.

 

[Lisaloo1977]

8 minutes ago, mogandave said:

If this was a dark-skinned male Muslim I wonder how many of the people posting here would assume everything he said was true...

If she was an 18 year old boy she wouldn’t be in this position! You’ve missed the whole point.

[anchadian]

 

Rahaf is calling for all people inside the transit area in Bangkok to protest against deporting her to Kuwait.  She says, 'please I need u all I'm shouting out for help of humanity'.

Edited January 7, 2019 by anchadian

[bust]

So Thais detain her for trying to enter Thailand without Visa or Passport. But she never intended to enter Thailand. Had a transfer to Australia booked.

Disgraceful behavior by the Thais ????????????

[Dogmatix]

Big Joke has already announced it is merely s family affair. Thailand has no political asylum laws. So it’s done on a case by case basis, dependent on relations with the country in question and whether it will pay for the repatriation. Saudi has money, so they will quickly get her back, even though relations are still strained after Saudi jewelry heist and the murder of Saudi embassy officials and businessmen involved in labour recruitment scams. The Chinese have big political influence, so they get their Ouighurs back. North Korea is not that important to Thailand, so they sometimes get their defectors back but South Korea often outbids them. There was a North Korean in the Immigration prison for years because no one would pay his fare to be deported. He may have died there by now.

[skippy]

Anyone know yet if she is pregnant?

[anchadian]

 

[mogandave]

How embarrassing, you believe they are the same?

Sorry, I didn’t mean to embarrass you.

No, I don’t think all religions are the same.

[anon537687643]

What we know is that Thailand has allowed a Foreign official to remove someones passport at the airport and force someone on its Territory to go to another country ! But actually we shouldn’t be surprised


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[hobobo]

4 hours ago, ukrules said:

By Saudi officials ? That's the bit that doesn't add up.

 

Maybe they cancelled her passport which could have caused issues when transiting but were Saidi officials allowed inside the airport to confiscate the document in person ?

 

Accredited diplomats can obtain a pass allowing them into restricted areas to meet specific plane/passengers.

[anon537687643]

Big Joke has already announced it is merely s family affair. Thailand has no political asylum laws. So it’s done on a case by case basis, dependent on relations with the country in question and whether it will pay for the repatriation. Saudi has money, so they will quickly get her back, even though relations are still strained after Saudi jewelry heist and the murder of Saudi embassy officials and businessmen involved in labour recruitment scams. The Chinese have big political influence, so they get their Ouighurs back. North Korea is not that important to Thailand, so they sometimes get their defectors back but South Korea often outbids them. There was a North Korean in the Immigration prison for years because no one would pay his fare to be deported. He may have died there by now.

Sure! In Thailand it’s never about what’s right,wrong or human rights! It’s all about money and influence!


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[cleopatra2]

5 minutes ago, hobobo said:

Accredited diplomats can obtain a pass allowing them into restricted areas to meet specific plane/passengers.

Meeting someone does not equate to kidnapping

[Dogmatix]

She seems more concerned that her family will murder her but she will face the death penalty in Saudi, if tried for blasphemy, rather than just traveling without male guardian. Either way she is dead meat, if sent back, assuming the facts are as stated.

Edited January 7, 2019 by Dogmatix

[hobobo]

3 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

Meeting someone does not equate to kidnapping

Pay attention! I was responding to a question whether Saudi officials (or any diplomats for that matter) can obtain access to restricted areas at the airport. The answer is Yes.

[PerkinsCuthbert]

The BBC report suggests that the Thai authorities have manufactured a story in order to deport her back to Kuwait, rather than allow her to - it seems legitimately - travel onward to Australia with visa in hand. 

On past experience, that would be unsurprising, unfortunately; Thailand has form. 

 

[ReMarKable]

18 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

Sorry, I didn’t mean to embarrass you.

No, I don’t think all religions are the same.

That is not what I meant.  Confused again (You).  social ideology in the form of liberalism is not a religion, it is not tax exempt, it is a collection of ideas.  Most religions offer a second life after this one, liberalism does not and liberals do not claim to be gods.

[onera1961]

She should be immediately allowed access to Australian embassy for seeking asylum. Rich Saudis don't go to Australia as illegal migrants for job. She has genuine fear of her life. Australia should do everything possible to rescue her. And Thai immigration let he board a Australian flight even if she does not have a passport. 

[spidermike007]

The current administration does not have the gravitas to stand up to the Saudis. They will extradite her, and she will be put to death. It is a capital crime to renounce Islam, based on Sharia law. That is how insecure, and paranoid some of these people are. A person should be free to make their own choices, and follow their own will, when it comes to faith and religion. Sharia is the most dangerous form of religion on the planet. And it must be resisted, in whatever way it can be resisted. Kudos to this woman, for taking a stand. And let us hope the media pressure forces this weak government to do the right thing, as they will never do so on their own accord. 

[PerkinsCuthbert]

5 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

She should be immediately allowed access to Australian embassy for seeking asylum. Rich Saudis don't go to Australia as illegal migrants for job. She has genuine fear of her life. Australia should do everything possible to rescue her. And Thai immigration let he board a Australian flight even if she does not have a passport. 

There is a difference between what 'should' happen and what is possible. At present she is under Thai jurisdiction, the Australian authorities have no legitimate right to interfere; she has never even set foot in the country. It appears the Thais are acting under some sort of pressure from the Saudi side, but I would be cautious in accepting either side's story as quoted in the media as the complete truth.

[Shocked farang]

This girl qualifies as a refugee. The United Nations should be contacted and they will deal with her case.

As she does not have a passport anymore and no other country will issue her one, the only solution is to apply as a refugee at the UN.

[anchadian]

Clock is ticking.  We should know shortly whether or not she is on that Kuwait flight departing at 11.15 hrs

[shackleton]

this will send out a message to others thinking of leaving their countries in the Middle east Dont transit through Bangkok 

seemingly she was in transit with a visa and ticket to Australia ?

[mogandave]

The BBC report suggests that the Thai authorities have manufactured a story in order to deport her back to Kuwait, rather than allow her to - it seems legitimately - travel onward to Australia with visa in hand. 
On past experience, that would be unsurprising, unfortunately; Thailand has form. 
 

And we all know that anything implied by the BBC must be a fact.

[DieterWiehe]

4 hours ago, Credo said:

Her brother reported her for not being accompanied by a male family member.   The Saudi officials then found her and took her passport.   

 

I hope this isn't one of those Khashoggi bone saw stories.   The Saudi's don't take kindly to rejecting Islam.   

 

Religion of Peace

[Vatman]

Can anyone answer these questions?

 

What class of Australian visa does this girl possess?

As Kuwait Airways does not fly to Australia which airline was she booked on from Bangkok to Australia & to which destination in Australia?

 

The Sydney Morning Herald states that she intended to claim asylum on arrival in Australia.

 

From Kuwait she would have been better off flying to Europe- why Australia?

 

[mogandave]

That is not what I meant.  Confused again (You).  social ideology in the form of liberalism is not a religion, it is not tax exempt, it is a collection of ideas.  Most religions offer a second life after this one, liberalism does not and liberals do not claim to be gods.

You seem to be confusing liberalism with leftism. In any event, not all religions believe in an afterlife.

What religion’s members claim to be Gods?

[DieterWiehe]

18 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

The current administration does not have the gravitas to stand up to the Saudis. They will extradite her, and she will be put to death. It is a capital crime to renounce Islam, based on Sharia law. That is how insecure, and paranoid some of these people are. A person should be free to make their own choices, and follow their own will, when it comes to faith and religion. Sharia is the most dangerous form of religion on the planet. And it must be resisted, in whatever way it can be resisted. Kudos to this woman, for taking a stand. And let us hope the media pressure forces this weak government to do the right thing, as they will never do so on their own accord. 

Religion of Peace

[Misterwhisper]

5 hours ago, anon7854 said:

Something in this story doesn't add up. How on earth can you board a plane or leave a country without a passport? 

Rahaf did NOT leave Kuwait for Bangkok "without a passport". She apparently had her passport on her when she arrived at Suvarnabhumi, as she intended to catch a connecting flight there to Australia, holding an Australian visa.

 

However, she was allegedly intercepted in the "airside" area of the airport by Saudi embassy staff and her passport was seized. Rahaf then was taken to the airport hotel and prohibited from leaving her room.

 

Thai immigration claims she was denied entry into Thailand for some unspecified reason and that that is why she will be deported back to Kuwait. But: Why would she request entry into Thailand if she only was in transit, waiting for her connecting flight to Australia?

 

Secondly, how the heck did Saudi officials gain access to the non-public "airside" area and allegedly seized Rahaf's passport, as has been reported? To me it appears that the Saudi embassy and Thai immigration are collaborating to facilitate Rahaf's forceful deportation. 

 

I have followed Rahaf's tweets closely throughout the night. That girl is frightened to death... and Kuwait AL flight no. 412 is to take off in just one hour.

[smew]

She will most likely have to get married to her first cousin and have cronicly sick and demented children !

 

So let us enjoy our freedoms while we still can before China takes over the world and makes us into little communist ants !