Hi, I am on a non O multiple entry and my Visa runs out on the 29th of Jan. I need to go and get a new one at Savannahket. My wife forgot to go to Jomtien Immigration and tell them where I live when i last did my extension in Cambodia. Do i need to get her to do it before i leave? I know they will fine her for not doing it. Or can i just go to Savannahket and do it the day i get back to Thailand so they wont fine me? If i dont go will I have any hassles at the border going out of Thailand? What is the fine for not reporting that I live at my wifes house, only 1500 baht?

 

 

Thanks

Based on previous reports from Jomtien, whether she does the late foreigner lodging report now, or after you return, she will be fined anyway. The 90-day past-due flag on your presence has already, automatically been set on their computer records and won't be reset by you doing a border hop. Since the 90-day report database flag hasn't prevented other people leaving and re-entering, there's no worries in that regard.

Edited January 13, 20197 yr by NanLaew

3 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

// The 90-day past-due flag on your presence has already, 

Uh? He is on a Non-O, so he doesn't need to make 90-day report 

Unsure what an "extension in Cambodia" means though...

Maybe talking about TM.30 ?

9 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

Uh? He is on a Non-O, so he doesn't need to make 90-day report 

Unsure what an "extension in Cambodia" means though...

Maybe talking about TM.30 ?

I am sure he needs to make the 90 day report within 24 hours of his return to Thailand.

I believe it is to ensure he has not changed his address and to make sure his wife still wants him to live with her.

That is my understanding, I do my first extension in Laos soon

4 minutes ago, spiderorchid said:

I am sure he needs to make the 90 day report within 24 hours of his return to Thailand.

I believe it is to ensure he has not changed his address and to make sure his wife still wants him to live with her.

That is my understanding, I do my first extension in Laos soon

I'm sure you have no idea what you are talking about

 

@Op:

If you don't plan to do anything at an immigration office in Thailand (like getting an extensio, a certificate of residence or similar), there is no real need to worry about a TM30, they never see you so they can't fine you.

In case that this is your wife's house and you just stay there you can not be legally fined anyway, they would have to fine your wife. But if you refuse to pay they might just refuse your extension or whatever you want from them

37 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

Uh? He is on a Non-O, so he doesn't need to make 90-day report 

Unsure what an "extension in Cambodia" means though...

Maybe talking about TM.30 ?

He will need to do a 90-day report (and his wife will need to provide a fresh TM30) if he tags on a 60-day extension to visit his wife to each 90-day entry under his multiple non-O visa.

 

But if he does border runs every 90 days, then, unless he has any other reason for needing to have dealings with Jomtien Immigration, no need for a fresh TM30. And 90-day reports do not, of course, arise in these circumstances.

 

I presume that by "extension in Cambodia" he means a border run to that particular hallowed country.

Edited January 13, 20197 yr by OJAS

There’s no need for your wife to report now. Do your visa run to Savannahket and — if you want to — make the report when you return.

 

If you get fined for failing to report in the past, it shouldn’t be more than 2,000 baht.

 

If you plan to apply for extensions at the local immigration office in the future it’s best to follow whatever reporting rules they set.

Edited January 13, 20197 yr by elviajero

5 hours ago, spiderorchid said:

I am sure he needs to make the 90 day report within 24 hours of his return to Thailand.

I believe it is to ensure he has not changed his address and to make sure his wife still wants him to live with her.

That is my understanding, I do my first extension in Laos soon

It is not a 90 day report. 90 day reports are only required having stayed longer than 90 days.

 

Some offices want the owner, housemaster, or possessor (that could be the OP if renting) to make a new TM.30 report every time the foreigner living at their address returns from abroad.

5 hours ago, OJAS said:

He will need to do a 90-day report (and his wife will need to provide a fresh TM30) if he tags on a 60-day extension to visit his wife to each 90-day entry under his multiple non-O visa.

No he won’t. The application for the 60 day extension counts as an address report so there is no need for a separate (90 day - TM.47) report.

If your planing on opening a bank account then you will need a letter from immigration proving where you are living..

7 hours ago, spiderorchid said:

I am sure he needs to make the 90 day report within 24 hours of his return to Thailand.

No, that would be a TM 30.

8 hours ago, crickets said:

Hi, I am on a non O multiple entry and my Visa runs out on the 29th of Jan. I need to go and get a new one at Savannahket.

If it is your visa that is expiring you can do a border hop to get an new 90 day entry on or before the 29th. No need for a new visa for almost 5 months if you extended that last entry for 60 days to visit your wife.

8 hours ago, crickets said:

If i dont go will I have any hassles at the border going out of Thailand?

No you will not. Departure immigration do not have any thing to do with TM30 reporting.

A bit late to do the TM30 report now. Just have your wife do it after your next entry.

8 hours ago, crickets said:

Do i need to get her to do it before i leave? 

No.

 

8 hours ago, crickets said:

 I know they will fine her for not doing it.

Not necessarily. Next time you enter, she can do it and immigration may very well not look at the previous entry.

This must (like many things) vary from office to office. I have never filled out a TM.30

I have had many 60 day extensions from my local office and it's never been mentioned !!

So easy to do it online now. You don't have to go into immigration everytime. She should ask Immigration for the web address and apply for doing online. Same with 90 day reporting for yourself. This can also be done online. It a pain going to any immigration office here in Thailand with sometime having to wait along time just for something that takes 5 minutes.

7 minutes ago, Batboy said:

So easy to do it online now. You don't have to go into immigration everytime. She should ask Immigration for the web address and apply for doing online. Same with 90 day reporting for yourself. This can also be done online. It a pain going to any immigration office here in Thailand with sometime having to wait along time just for something that takes 5 minutes.

Do it on-line You have to be joking.

Several times i have tried, always the same, contact your local immigration office.

Some people can do it on-line but many cant as the system will not allow it.

op do a fresh in/out border hop for a fresh 90 day entry stamp, no need to worry about a tm30 unless you need to have contact with local immigration

I was told every time i leave the country, even if it is for an in  and out cambodia to get another 90s days on my non o multi, my wife has to report within 24 hours that i am living at her house. If she doesn't within 24hoours its a 1500 baht fine. So she forgot to and doesn't want to go because she knows she has to pay the fine. When we went before to do it they people at immigration are quite rude because they are not getting money for a fine. They are extremely nice to the people who they are asking money from. I cant do it online, only hotels can.

Edited January 14, 20197 yr by crickets

6 minutes ago, crickets said:

I was told every time i leave the country, even if it is for an in  and out cambodia to get another 90s days on my non o multi, my wife has to report within 24 hours that i am living at her house. If she doesn't within 24hoours its a 1500 baht fine. So she forgot to and doesn't want to go because she knows she has to pay the fine.

The key is never going to an immigration office for anything, if your office is the "unhelpful" type.  

 

Alternatively, if you need do get things from that office, you have no choice but to do the TM-30 runaround - to whatever specification they want this week, at that particular office, when applying for whatever particular service.  The required reporting-method varies from office to office, from desk-to-desk within some offices, and arbitrarily over time.  The way many offices enforce it, it is a pointless runaround with no oversight/consistency as to process.  They already have out address from the TM-6 - and if that hasn't changed, they are just being <colorful adjective> to make a fuss over this.

 

6 minutes ago, crickets said:

When we went before to do it they people at immigration are quite rude because they are not getting money for a fine.

At some offices, they want to see an agent's face at the door, with a stack of passports and 1000 Baht notes - not some "cheapskate" who does things honestly.

 

6 minutes ago, crickets said:

They are extremely nice to the people who they are asking money from. I cant do it online, only hotels can.

Some offices, staffed with friendly IOs, might let your wife register online so she can submit TM-30s.  Whether your particular office will do this is unknown.  Given there is no meaningful oversight, the local fiefdoms can make up any criteria - or just claim what they feel like at the moment is "the law."

49 minutes ago, crickets said:

I was told every time i leave the country, even if it is for an in  and out cambodia to get another 90s days on my non o multi,

What Jack says, you need never report to an immigration office, ever, with a non 'o' multi entry.

If you have a yellow book, do you still need to do a TM30?

6 hours ago, lanng khao said:

If your planing on opening a bank account then you will need a letter from immigration proving where you are living..

No you don't.

16 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

No you don't.

some banks insist on an address certificate from immigration

17 minutes ago, steve187 said:

some banks insist on an address certificate from immigration

Some branches of some banks are looking for excuses not to deal with a foreigner (But they don't like to say it to your face). If you returned with an address certificate from immigration, they would then demand a work permit.

 

Learn to avoid doing business with people who don't want you.

Then open your bank account with a branch of a bank that is happy to do business with you.

Edited January 14, 20197 yr by BritManToo

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Some branches of some banks are looking for excuses not to deal with a foreigner (But they don't like to say it to your face). If you returned with an address certificate from immigration, they would then demand a work permit.

 

Learn to avoid doing business with people who don't want you.

Then open your bank account with a branch of a bank that is happy to do business with you.

i tried all the local branches to me, they all wanted a letter, i opened one and all they needed was a letter. so that's why i posted some branches require the letter. what other proof of address does some foreigner have.

Edited January 14, 20197 yr by steve187

1 hour ago, Jeffrey346 said:

If you have a yellow book, do you still need to do a TM30?

A yellow book has nothing to do with Immigration and some Immigration offices won't accept a yellow book for proof of where you live.

 

If your current visa or extension requires filing a TM30 and your local Immigration office insists on a TM30, there's no other government department issued paperwork or letter that says otherwise.

Strange,  in 30 years my wife has never had to tell immigration where I live. Why can't you do it yourself? 

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

A yellow book has nothing to do with Immigration and some Immigration offices won't accept a yellow book for proof of where you live.

A yellow book is proof of address. If the immigration officer says it's not, they are incompetent and you should call the hotline to complain.

9 minutes ago, MrPatrickThai said:

Strange,  in 30 years my wife has never had to tell immigration where I live. Why can't you do it yourself? 

Because it's officially the duty of the housemaster.

48 minutes ago, steve187 said:

i tried all the local branches to me, they all wanted a letter, i opened one and all they needed was a letter. so that's why i posted some branches require the letter. what other proof of address does some foreigner have.

They don't write to you, they won't give you credit, why would they care about the address.

I've not informed my bank of my new addresses over the past ten years.

They always want your passport for new debit cards though.