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Burning sugarcane stalks contributes to smog: activists


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It is not just sugar cane but also rice stubble and maize (corn) stalks after the cobs have been harvested. The deliberate burning of forest undergrowth in the mountains also contributes as the ash provides a kind of fertilizer for the growth of wild mushrooms when the wet season begins. 

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Places to go on vacation or retire...

 

NUMBER 1:  A place where I can't breathe and will destroy my lungs, give me allergies, destroy my health, and contaminate all my organs.

 

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1 hour ago, stropper said:

the two sugar refineries at kumpawampie do not buy burnt cane, there is a sign outside stating this, very little if any cane is now burnt in our area, but they still burn there paddocks after harvesting

 

Wow, how interesting! That seems to dispel the reasoning people do it is to make harvesting easier.

 

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16 hours ago, assayer said:

Sugar cane is not only used for the production of sugar but also for the production of alcohol which is then added to your benzene.

And your mouth !

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13 hours ago, fruitman said:

It's coming already from Europe. I read that France will start banning all environment unfriendly produce within a few years and they proposed the whole EU to join them.

 

So if Thailand doesn't act fast they won't sell anymore rice/sugar/corn to the EU....well if that is what it takes then so be it....We all live on the same world which we have to protect.

But will the UK be OK to buy these products. Wait til March !

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2 hours ago, robblok said:

As usual the farmers are to blame if they don't try to kill the rest of us with pesticides then its this. They really don't care much for others why should we care for farmers if they act like this. 

 

Government should put much tighter control on this they are to blame as much as the farmers by their non action. Maybe fund should be set up to pay farmers a few baht per rai not to burn. Still with the corruption here it would probably wont work.

Farmers do get paid more for unburnt cane. As above the problem is that many labourers refuse to cut unburnt cane because it takes longer.

Burning is illegal in Thailand but for some reason buying burnt cane is not.

Make it illegal to buy burnt cane and the problem would disappear overnight.

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3 hours ago, robblok said:

As usual the farmers are to blame if they don't try to kill the rest of us with pesticides then its this. They really don't care much for others why should we care for farmers if they act like this. 

 

Government should put much tighter control on this they are to blame as much as the farmers by their non action. Maybe fund should be set up to pay farmers a few baht per rai not to burn. Still with the corruption here it would probably wont work.

So everything is rotten in the kingdom of Siam? So sad for individuals with a positive mind who hope more in solutions than systematic critics, but sometimes it's really discouraging when it seems one's positive spirit gets closer to gullibility or infantilism. :sad:

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Hello 👋 burning anything causes smoke.  I see big trash fires, even in the daytime in Bangkok.  Without prosecuting, nothing will stop-as usual nothing will be accomplished-Thailand sinks into oblivion because of laziness 

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22 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Burning sugarcane stalks contributes to smog: activists

 

And don't forget the century year old buses, minivans and trucks with century years of zero maintenance, who are roaming around for centuries since the day of Bangkok's industrial ages

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21 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

When this caused problems in Chiang Mai nobody in Bangkok gave a toss but now it's happening in Bangkok we are all supposed to be worried and feel sorry for them are we ?   Hope they all choke !

Also a planned protest in CM about the air pollution had to be called off after the government said the protest was illegal or something along those lines. That was in 2018 at the height of the CM smog. it seems karma has acted pretty quickly .

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17 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Also a planned protest in CM about the air pollution had to be called off after the government said the protest was illegal or something along those lines. That was in 2018 at the height of the CM smog. it seems karma has acted pretty quickly .

 

Yep, protesting air pollution a year ago in CM apparently was deemed to be a threat to "stability" or "security."  And if I recall, led to the threat of criminal charges, or more, against the local media owner who tried to organize the protest...before being muzzled.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Tchooptip said:

So everything is rotten in the kingdom of Siam? So sad for individuals with a positive mind who hope more in solutions than systematic critics, but sometimes it's really discouraging when it seems one's positive spirit gets closer to gullibility or infantilism. :sad:

No not everything is rotten but enforcement almost never happens here and funds that are there to help people are abused a lot because of corruption. Its called realism I wish I could always be positive. I love Thailand but see its faults too. 

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I don't think enforcement is the whole problem . The govt is wholly in bed with the large companies that run the majority of the agricultural industry and its related branches.  Corn and sugar are two of the big contributors towards smoke levels. I would imagine burning is one of the facets of farming  that keep the cost of production and therefore price of the crop down.

In BKK they are also "in bed with " the concrete companies. I would imagine that eyesore construction site (mega station) at Bang Sue is driving up dust levels quite a bit.

 

At some stage the government has to realise that the filling of "govt. coffers" is at odds with the survival of the population. - Or do they ?

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16 minutes ago, cmsally said:

At some stage the government has to realise that the filling of "govt. coffers" is at odds with the survival of the population. - Or do they ?

There needs to be a stronger definition between "govt coffers" and personal enrichment, you don't amass a huge collection of expensive watches (example 🙂 ) without "giving" something back! 🤔

The price of sugar cane is less for burnt, though it is obviously cheaper to harvest burnt, my wife has about 20 Rai of sugar cane, fields were originally rice paddies but government incentives to grow sugar cane were given and gladly received, now look where they are, uncontrolled chaos, unsafe trucks transporting huge loads of burnt sugar cane, polluted air, no doubt the "elites" in Bangkok are reaping the majority of the profits and rewarding underlings with ???? :shock1:

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5 minutes ago, CGW said:

There needs to be a stronger definition between "govt coffers" and personal enrichment, you don't amass a huge collection of expensive watches (example 🙂 ) without "giving" something back! 🤔

The price of sugar cane is less for burnt, though it is obviously cheaper to harvest burnt, my wife has about 20 Rai of sugar cane, fields were originally rice paddies but government incentives to grow sugar cane were given and gladly received, now look where they are, uncontrolled chaos, unsafe trucks transporting huge loads of burnt sugar cane, polluted air, no doubt the "elites" in Bangkok are reaping the majority of the profits and rewarding underlings with ???? :shock1:

Somebody buy him a Watch.

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4 hours ago, Toknarok said:

About 3 millon baht ,they are imported second hand , mainly from Brazil or Australia ,a  TV member who writs in the farming forum said to impot one from the USA ,with all the taxes ect would be 4 millon plus .

A company in Kanchanaburi buys them in and re-cons them and sells them on .

They would be more complcated than a rice combin a lot of hydrolics ,and remember any spears will have to come in from abroad ,a lot of rice combins you see are made in Thailand ,the John Deer and Class  modales are all impoted .

@canopy  Cane is 

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Gremlins at work again .and miss spelling.

canopy, Cane is still burnt to make  it easier to cut a lot more farmers will burn they cane, then farmers that burn the  stubble after harvesting some farmers will keep the stubble, acts like a mulch helps keep the weeds down and will help preserve some soil moisture.  

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Why do many farmers burn? (Not just talking about cane). because they are poor, and ploughing in stubble/waste means hiring a tractor. It hits them directly in the pocket. If they had their own tractors, not such a problem, Of course they didn't burn in the old days as much because the buffalo ate the stubble. A Kubota doesn't need stubble to eat ......

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