Brexit bedlam - May's EU divorce deal crushed by 230 votes in parliament

[Spidey]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He did, but moving his HO our of the UK is hardly a vote of confidence in the Brexit he sponsored.

It's a common trait of Brexiteers. They talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

 

Take the much vaunted champions of Brexit, Farage and Johnson, big on rhetoric before the referendum, but when the result came and the real work of securing a deal to take Britain out of the EU became a reality, they disappeared into the dust.

 

A pair of gobshites of the first order.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Take the much vaunted champions of Brexit, Farage and Johnson, big on rhetoric before the referendum, but when the result came and the real work of securing a deal to take Britain out of the EU became a reality, the disappeared into the dust.

This is simply no true. Nigel Farage was ousted from the official leave campaign and was not allowed to join any EU negotiations so your claim is baseless. Boris Johnson went for party leader and lost and is still trying to become party leader. Either one of them would be doing a better job than TM and get us out the EU. In fact the EU and those who are fighting to overturn the referendum result are 'cacking' themselves in case a Brexiteer gets to lead the negotiations, against the EU.

 

Whether you think they are gobshites that's your opinion but the other part of your post is fact-less and factually incorrect.

 

[Spidey]

7 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Whether you think they are gobshites that's your opinion but the other part of your post is fact-less and factually incorrect.

 

Is that, in fact, a fact?

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Just now, Spidey said:

Is that, in fact, a fact?

Obviously talking rollocks

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Obviously talking rollocks

I bow to your expertise on that!

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Just now, Spidey said:

I bow to your expertise on that!

I was asking you a genuine question by providing evidence which you have not. So rollocks it is.

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22 minutes ago, Spidey said:

They talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

Now why don't you do as you say!!!

[Spidey]

2 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Now why don't you do as you say!!!

Maybe I'm a Brexiteer?

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6 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Polls in the Republic show support for EU membership is growing. From May 2018: More than 90% of Irish people want to stay in EU, poll reveals. From November 2018: Brexit bedlam consolidates support for EU and euro in Republic.

 

So you would undo 100 years of bloody history and force the Republic back under British rule by making them do as we do?

 

That's even more moronic than the suggestion from some that the hard border question be resolved by forcing NI into the Republic against the will of the majority!

Here you apply your own sensationalist and false interpretations, yet again. Boring but expected now.

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Just now, Spidey said:

Maybe I'm a Brexiteer?

Regardless you have stated something so please show us or if not, it is better to stay silent and not make yourself look.. incompetent at best.

[aright]

27 minutes ago, Spidey said:

It's a common trait of Brexiteers. They talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

 

Take the much vaunted champions of Brexit, Farage and Johnson, big on rhetoric before the referendum, but when the result came and the real work of securing a deal to take Britain out of the EU became a reality, they disappeared into the dust.

 

A pair of gobshites of the first order.

 

 

"It's a common trait of Brexiteers. They talk the talk but don't walk the walk." 

 

 

It's a common trait of ardent Remainers like yourself to regard EU membership as a surrogate religion. It's the source of the meaning of their existence, the guarantee of future happiness and their source of law. It gives them their purpose in life. This is as close to cultism as it gets. 

 

 

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Regardless you have stated something so please show us or if not, it is better to stay silent and not make yourself look.. incompetent at best.

How do I show you that Farage and Johnson have been conspicuously silent since the referendum result was announced? You can't see fresh air.

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5 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

As the world can witness what a great success story Brexit is, they probably can’t wait to join the circus.

 

Not sure if they have the right people though; finding enough uneducated imbeciles that believe the lies and conspiracy theories of some demagogues, plus politicians who willingly play the game might not be that easy. 

Nothing to witness yet. We haven't left. The Irish will soon become disenchanted with the EU but will find it a lot more difficult to leave it.

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, aright said:

"It's a common trait of Brexiteers. They talk the talk but don't walk the walk." 

 

 

It's a common trait of ardent Remainers like yourself to regard EU membership as a surrogate religion. It's the source of the meaning of their existence, the guarantee of future happiness and their source of law. It gives them their purpose in life. This is as close to cultism as it gets. 

 

 

Well, it's not "a common trait" for this remainer. I have stated before that, in an ideal world, I would prefer not to be in the EU. I voted against joining back in the 70s.

 

However, I'm a realist, not an idealist and, as such, realise that it's not in Britain's best interest to leave the EU in the current economic climate. It's economic suicide.

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7 minutes ago, Spidey said:

How do I show you that Farage and Johnson have been conspicuously silent since the referendum result was announced? You can't see fresh air.

Just to refresh your memory from your post a few pages back  I have pasted it below. So anymore to say or do you need a bigger shovel.

 

"Take the much vaunted champions of Brexit, Farage and Johnson, big on rhetoric before the referendum, but when the result came and the real work of securing a deal to take Britain out of the EU became a reality, they disappeared into the dust."

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1 minute ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Just to refresh your memory from your post a few pages back  I have pasted it below. So anymore to say or do you need a bigger shovel.

 

"Take the much vaunted champions of Brexit, Farage and Johnson, big on rhetoric before the referendum, but when the result came and the real work of securing a deal to take Britain out of the EU became a reality, they disappeared into the dust."

You've lost the plot. The 2 quotes say the same thing!

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1 minute ago, Spidey said:

You've lost the plot. The 2 quotes say the same thing!

Shovel it is.

 I won't be replying as obviously you have no credible answer.

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44 minutes ago, Spidey said:

It's a common trait of Brexiteers. They talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

 

Take the much vaunted champions of Brexit, Farage and Johnson, big on rhetoric before the referendum, but when the result came and the real work of securing a deal to take Britain out of the EU became a reality, they disappeared into the dust.

 

A pair of gobshites of the first order.

 

 

Dust? They are quite easy to find, especially Farage.

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30 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Is that, in fact, a fact?

As a matter of fact, yes.

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14 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Well, it's not "a common trait" for this remainer. I have stated before that, in an ideal world, I would prefer not to be in the EU. I voted against joining back in the 70s.

 

However, I'm a realist, not an idealist and, as such, realise that it's not in Britain's best interest to leave the EU in the current economic climate. It's economic suicide.

You really think that the EU can protect its fold from the next crash, don't you? Unreal.

[SuperTed]

Spidey does make the right point - Farage and Johnson f**ked off after selling Brexit to the working classes with lies and xenophobia. Now Britain is stuffed.

At least in the US, Trump is stuck having to stare down all his own bs from the election. To his credit, he’s quite good at it.

All the while, the dictators and autocracies of the world grow in wealth, power and influence, while the world’s champions of democracy and freedom struggle to operate their governments.

Sad.

[Spidey]

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You really think that the EU can protect its fold from the next crash, don't you? Unreal.

It was proved in 2008 that you can't be totally protected against a global crash but it's better to fight together than stand alone.

 

The big trade issue at the moment, is Trump's trade wars. If Britain stands alone, he will pick us off like shelling peas.

[welovesundaysatspace]

21 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Nothing to witness yet. We haven't left. 

Not even left yet and already a laughing stock. 

 

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You really think that the EU can protect its fold from the next crash, don't you? 

Probably not as good as the (then alone) UK who will just hold a referendum asking people what they want to do with the crash and let Theresa dance around for two years until the crash is pissed off. 

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8 minutes ago, SuperTed said:

Spidey does make the right point - Farage and Johnson f**ked off after selling Brexit to the working classes with lies and xenophobia. Now Britain is stuffed.

At least in the US, Trump is stuck having to stare down all his own bs from the election. To his credit, he’s quite good at it.

All the while, the dictators and autocracies of the world grow in wealth, power and influence, while the world’s champions of democracy and freedom struggle to operate their governments.

Sad.

They haven't  f**ked off. Farage is still an MEP. BoJo sits in the Commons. They are not now in positions of high power or influence. You can see them every day with a couple of clicks and Britain is not stuffed.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Spidey said:

It was proved in 2008 that you can't be totally protected against a global crash but it's better to fight together than stand alone.

 

The big trade issue at the moment, is Trump's trade wars. If Britain stands alone, he will pick us off like shelling peas.

Where is this proof? Show the Greeks.

 

And I am not talking about recent trade issues.    

[Spidey]

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

They haven't  f**ked off. Farage is still an MEP. BoJo sits in the Commons. There are not now in positions of high power or influence. You can see them every day with a couple of clicks and Britain is not stuffed.

 

 

You can see them but can you hear them?

 

Mind you, I have to admit, "silence is golden"!

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5 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Not even left yet and already a laughing stock. 

 

Probably not as good as the (then alone) UK who will just hold a referendum asking people what they want to do with the crash and let Theresa dance around for two years until the crash is pissed off. 

Time will tell who has the last laugh. 

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1 minute ago, Spidey said:

You can see them but can you hear them?

 

Mind you, I have to admit, "silence is golden"!

If you turn the sound up you can hear them too. Try it.  

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1 minute ago, nauseus said:

Where is this proof? Show the Greeks.

 

And I am not talking about recent trade issues.    

Why aren't you talking about recent trade issues? Don't they fit your agenda?

 

The Greeks were masters of their own demise, setting completely unaffordable socialist budgets to curry favour with their voters whilst destroying their economy, which was rescued by the EU.

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Just now, nauseus said:

If you turn the sound up you can hear them too. Try it.  

Ah yes, I can hear them now. Muted guffawing aimed at the British electorate.