bristolboy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, HuskerDo said: Sure there are folks that complain they weren't compensated well enough but that happens in nearly all companies He routinely stiffed contractors or only partially paid and reneged on contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, bristolboy said: How many Presidents do you know who went bankrupt 4 times by paying way too much for assets (in other words got out-negotiated).got bailed out by their Daddy, and inherited almost 500 million in current dollars? Yes, exactly. Remember the fascistic "I alone can fix it" proclamation at the convention? Remember he sold himself as the greatest deal maker. The greatest negotiator. Turns out in real life as president that he can't negotiate himself out of a paper bag. Paraphrased from an anonymous comment from a white house insider on his complete lameness on the shutdown, it's like going to McDonalds and they can't make a hamburger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, HuskerDo said: He paid many thousands of folks a very good wage. Sure there are folks that complain they weren't compensated well enough but that happens in nearly all companies. At least he HAD a business and the accompanying knowledge how to run it and a country. How many Presidents in the past 50 years ran a viable business before they became president? All they knew was politics. Bash Trump all you want but he's running the country like a business and trying to drain the swamp. Trump isn't keeping the govt closed rather he's trying to open it. Pelosi is now against a wall when she was for it a few years ago only because of her hatred of Trump. Not good leadership. Geez man, did you even bother to read the article? Your ability to deny reality is breath-taking. What he did as a businessman was not normal. Trump was more a conman than a businessman. And he's not draining the swamp, he's populating it with some of the most vile, unqualified, and corrupt swamp creatures. The Trump Administration will go down in history as the most incompetent and corrupt ever. More from the article: [From the time he built his first Manhattan apartment building, Mr. Trump left a string of unpaid tabs for the people who worked for him. The undocumented Polish workers who did the demolition work for that first building, Trump Tower, eventually won a $1.375 million settlement. Since then, scores of lawyers, contractors, engineers and waiters have sued Mr. Trump for unpaid bills or pay. Typically, he responds by asserting that their work did not meet his standard.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, HuskerDo said: He paid many thousands of folks a very good wage. Sure there are folks that complain they weren't compensated well enough but that happens in nearly all companies. At least he HAD a business and the accompanying knowledge how to run it and a country. How many Presidents in the past 50 years ran a viable business before they became president? All they knew was politics. Bash Trump all you want but he's running the country like a business and trying to drain the swamp. Trump isn't keeping the govt closed rather he's trying to open it. Pelosi is now against a wall when she was for it a few years ago only because of her hatred of Trump. Not good leadership. Maybe he things the federal workers rich daddies will bail them out as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Yes, the idea that a businessman can possibly become an effective political leader is debatable. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I think Bloomberg an actual ethical billionaire businessman could potentially really be a great president, but we'll never know. But "trump" was and is the most SLEAZY kind of businessman and no surprise the totally SHAMBOLIC results we're seeing with that narcissistic con man in office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 53 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Yes, exactly. Remember the fascistic "I alone can fix it" proclamation at the convention? Remember he sold himself as the greatest deal maker. The greatest negotiator. Turns out in real life as president that he can't negotiate himself out of a paper bag. Paraphrased from an anonymous comment from a white house insider on his complete lameness on the shutdown, it's like going to McDonalds and they can't make a hamburger! From the Mouth of Hell herself: Coulter criticized Trump for being the “worst negotiator God ever created” for his failure to reach an agreement with the Democrats to end the current shutdown. Coulter added that Trump’s previous and often touted claims that he was a great businessman and negotiator “turns out [to] have been exaggerated.” https://www.newsweek.com/ann-coulter-donald-trump-dead-build-wall-1293341 She's going to be on Maher's show next Friday. Recommend putting some plexiglass in front of the TV screen in case you can't resist the urge to throw things.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 47 minutes ago, Berkshire said: Since then, scores of lawyers, contractors, engineers and waiters have sued Mr. Trump for unpaid bills or pay. Typically, he responds by asserting that their work did not meet his standard.] Trump has continued the same blame-shifting nasty pattern insults to people he's appointed as President, and then fired or who resigned. Rex Tillerson, a celebrated CEO former Secretary of State "dumb as a rock and lazy as hell," his own closest personal lawyer, Cohen "a rat, a weak person, not a very smart person," Steve Bannon, Chief Strategist "Sloppy Steve. Jeff Session, AG, "mentally retarded, a dumb southerner," Omarosa, Trump campaign and White house adviser "lowlife, wacky omarosa." It goes on and on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 This is what I have been waiting for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, bendejo said: From the Mouth of Hell herself: Coulter criticized Trump for being the “worst negotiator God ever created” for his failure to reach an agreement with the Democrats to end the current shutdown. Coulter added that Trump’s previous and often touted claims that he was a great businessman and negotiator “turns out [to] have been exaggerated.” https://www.newsweek.com/ann-coulter-donald-trump-dead-build-wall-1293341 She's going to be on Maher's show next Friday. Recommend putting some plexiglass in front of the TV screen in case you can't resist the urge to throw things.... Ann Coulter is about as nutty as they come. The woman has some screws loose. But amazingly, our President is deathly afraid of her. And this has not gone unnoticed.... [Nancy Pelosi should negotiate with Ann Coulter] https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/20/opinions/pelosi-coulter-limbaugh-immigration-negotiation-obeidallah/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 6 hours ago, bristolboy said: How many Presidents do you know who went bankrupt 4 times by paying way too much for assets (in other words got out-negotiated).got bailed out by their Daddy, and inherited almost 500 million in current dollars? Crash and burn can be valuable life lessons. So Trump is a scallywag, but he's trying to do good on the border. All his personal flaws has diddley squat to do with improving border security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Crash and burn can be valuable life lessons. So Trump is a scallywag, but he's trying to do good on the border. All his personal flaws has diddley squat to do with improving border security. Surely u know that Trump doesn't care about border security. Trump ONLY cares about winning. And since he promised a wall, he needs to deliver a wall to win. Whether a wall works or not...who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Berkshire said: Surely u know that Trump doesn't care about border security. Trump ONLY cares about winning. And since he promised a wall, he needs to deliver a wall to win. Whether a wall works or not...who cares. Barriers in high traffic areas was a good idea before Trump became president. Now it's not. Gee, I wonder why? Maybe because barriers are "Immoral" The hypocrisy is overwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Barriers in high traffic areas was a good idea before Trump became president. Now it's not. Gee, I wonder why? Maybe because barriers are "Immoral" The hypocrisy is overwhelming. The barriers in high traffic areas are there already. The ignorance is overwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Becker said: The barriers in high traffic areas are there already. The ignorance is overwhelming. Decent start, but needs to be extended in certain areas as in the Rio Grand sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerDo Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 7 hours ago, bristolboy said: How many Presidents do you know who went bankrupt 4 times by paying way too much for assets (in other words got out-negotiated).got bailed out by their Daddy, and inherited almost 500 million in current dollars? Where to start...… He started his business with a million dollar LOAN from his father which he repaid. HE didn't go bankrupt but rather he allowed some of his businesses to file for bankruptcy. It was legal and he used "the system" to his advantage. He did/does pay too much for a lot of his properties tho. I'll agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerDo Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 7 hours ago, bristolboy said: He routinely stiffed contractors or only partially paid and reneged on contracts. Routinely? Really? Let's have facts and not just a silly opinion please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, HuskerDo said: Where to start...… He started his business with a million dollar LOAN from his father which he repaid. HE didn't go bankrupt but rather he allowed some of his businesses to file for bankruptcy. It was legal and he used "the system" to his advantage. He did/does pay too much for a lot of his properties tho. I'll agree with that. If you believe Trump, then yes he started with a 1 million dollar loan from his father. But that's been repeatedly show to be a lie. And why would anyone take Trump's word for anything? Yes, it's perfectly legal to allow your business to go bankrupt but they went bankrupt because of his incompetence. He repeatedly overpaid for properties whether it was in Atlantic City or the Plaza Hotel in New York or his airline and when he couldn't repay the loans he went bust. Why do you think banks in the USA refused to lend him money? Because he had demonstrated sound business judgement? The only reason you don't know the facts is because you don't want to know the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerDo Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Jingthing said: Yes, exactly. Remember the fascistic "I alone can fix it" proclamation at the convention? Remember he sold himself as the greatest deal maker. The greatest negotiator. Turns out in real life as president that he can't negotiate himself out of a paper bag. Paraphrased from an anonymous comment from a white house insider on his complete lameness on the shutdown, it's like going to McDonalds and they can't make a hamburger! Not a great deal maker? Really? How about how he renegotiated NAFTA when people were saying it couldn't be done. The US is far better off for it. How about the on-going negotiations with China? They just offered to buy a TRILLION, yes TRILLION dollars of US goods as part of the fix for the trade deficit between the countries. How about negotiations with North Korea that have bought their nuke development to a halt? Just because Pelosi's hatred of the man is keeping her from agreeing to open the govt isn't his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, HuskerDo said: Two points.... They will receive ALL their backpay once the govt reopens and it will. Point number two.... if grown people aren't smart enough to have saved several months of income for emergency situations like this or in case they lost their jobs permanently then they have no one to blame but themselves. Yes, "grown people" with mortgages and several children living off a less than stellar Federal paycheck. Silly SILLY people not having several months pay saved. How dare they complain! This one's for you HuskerDo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, HuskerDo said: Well you just agreed with most of my points so it looks like I did a good job of clearing the air. ???? So you agree that Donald Trump has repeatedly demonstrated his poor negotiating ability? Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, HuskerDo said: So you already know that the renegotiated NAFTA and ongoing discussions with China will be a failure huh? Geez Bristol since you can see into the future maybe you should run for Prez and make America great again. ???? Do you even remember what you've written just a short time ago? Let me remind you: "How about how he renegotiated NAFTA when people were saying it couldn't be done. The US is far better off for it." So you already know the new NAFTA will be a success? Got your crystal ball. "How about the on-going negotiations with China? They just offered to buy a TRILLION, yes TRILLION dollars of US goods as part of the fix for the trade deficit between the countries" So you already know that these negotiations will be a success? And the fact is that the changes to NAFTA aren't major. You don't need a crystal ball to see that. I don't know that even his own economists are claiming it will make much of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, HuskerDo said: So you already know that the renegotiated NAFTA and ongoing discussions with China will be a failure huh? Geez Bristol since you can see into the future maybe you should run for Prez and make America great again. ???? What a silly diversion. Of course, when you make claims entirely without basis in reality and facts then you don't have a choice, do you. "How about negotiations with North Korea that have bought their nuke development to a halt? " https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/20/opinions/presidential-weekly-briefing-trump-kim-summit-vinograd/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Decent start, but needs to be extended in certain areas as in the Rio Grand sector. So you agree you were wrong then. Good for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Becker said: What a silly diversion. Of course, when you make statements entirely without basis in facts then you don't have a choice, do you. "How about negotiations with North Korea that have bought their nuke development to a halt? " https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/20/opinions/presidential-weekly-briefing-trump-kim-summit-vinograd/index.html In the case of the Trump-KIm negotiations, I think what has been brought to a halt are the thinking processes of die-hard Trump supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 The latest Putin troll is of very poor standard. Is there any way we can get a refund fellas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, HuskerDo said: Are they firing off rockets over Japan anymore? Are they threatening to destroy Guam anymore? Is Kim meeting again with Trump soon? I'd say progress is being made. Just because you hate the Prez don't keep refusing to give him credit for SOME of the good things he's doing. In other words, Kim throws a tantrum and gets rewarded with a summit meeting and relaxed restrictions from Russian and China. As they pointed out, Trump said North Korea is no longer a nuclear threat, so why impose such strict sanctions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, HuskerDo said: "I don't know that even his own..". Great point Bristol... you don't know. I'm in complete agreement. ???? You've repeatedly established that you're a know-nothing. So I guess for a no-nothing, trolling is the only shot you've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, HuskerDo said: Compared to every Prez since Reagan yes I love him. If people like me are Trump "loyalists" then I guess that makes you and folks like you liberal Pelosi "loyalists". You love the biggest liar in American presidential history and it's not even close. Quote President Trump made 8,158 false or misleading claims in his first two years Two years after taking the oath of office, President Trump has made 8,158 false or misleading claims, according to The Fact Checker’s database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president. That includes an astonishing 6,000-plus such claims in the president’s second year. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/21/president-trump-made-false-or-misleading-claims-his-first-two-years/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Troll posts removed. One person on suspension. Don't respond to trolls, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Berkshire said: Ann Coulter is about as nutty as they come. The woman has some screws loose. But amazingly, our President is deathly afraid of her. And this has not gone unnoticed.... About a month after 9/11 I was watching TV, flipping stations, and I came across this ditzy blonde saying stuff like "all swarthy men should be deported, I mean like yuck, who needs them?" I thought it was a comedian doing a Suzie Sorority bit. Little did I know... The first glimpse we got of this insanity was when DT cited the National Enquirer regarding Ted Cruz's sire and JFK during the primaries. I saw that headline while in a supermarket a few days before and thought "let's see him quote that, haw-haw!" The joke was on me, and the rest of us. Imagine the sense of empowerment the likes of her, Limbaugh, and the rest of them are experiencing knowing how much sway they have on POTUS. For Putin, his takeover of the US was an easier task than Crimea. I think a general strike by Federal workers is the solution. This includes Secret Service and his jet shuttle service. Actually a full general strike, nationwide, is the real way to make an impact, but I think he has too many fans for that to happen. I lived in India for a while back in Indira Gandhi days, and I remember the first time I experienced a general strike; I think the word they used was "bhand." Speaking of his fans, has he stopped doing love rallies? Is he afraid of his 2nd Amendment people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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