webfact Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Thailand slips three places In graft index By The Nation FILE photo In a list of 180 countries, Thailand fell to 99 from 96 in Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) in 2018. Patricia Moreira, managing director of international secretariat of Transparency International, said Thailand’s score was 36 out of 100 last year, down from 37 a year earlier. She explained that corruption undermines democracy, leads to a vicious cycle and weakens democratic institutions, eventually corruption becomes so ingrained in society that it cannot be eliminated. Since 1995, the index is published annually by Berlin-based Transparency International, which ranks countries “by their corruption levels, as set by expert assessments and opinion surveys”. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/Economy/30363164 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-01-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 At what point can they claim to be a "hub"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, webfact said: eventually corruption becomes so ingrained in society that it cannot be eliminated. Ah! So they DO know!...….Mai Phen Rai...….snouts to the trough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Hh they should have bunged em a bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, webfact said: eventually corruption becomes so ingrained in society that it cannot be eliminated. that is what firing squads are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Corruption in Thailand??? Who woudda thunk it? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Anyone want to lay odds on how long it will be before our junta friends come up with some reason why the findings are flawed? There number one goal when they came to power was to stamp corruption out completely if I recall correctly, and surely they couldn't have failed so pitifully in that as to be going backwards, with no improvement whatsoever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 36 minutes ago, webfact said: Thailand fell to 99 from 96 in Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) in 2018. A very peculiar, even ironic development considering that the junta's foremost reason for kidnapping democracy in this country almost five years ago was to actually STAMP OUT and ERADICATE corruption altogether. Seems they have made things worse instead, which, I might add, is not a big surprise at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 So not only was happiness not returned, but corruption has got worse. What an utter, utter waste of 5 years for the majority. I'm sure the 1% have been enjoying themselves, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Anyone want to lay odds on how long it will be before our junta friends come up with some reason why the findings are flawed? There number one goal when they came to power was to stamp corruption out completely if I recall correctly, and surely they couldn't have failed so pitifully in that as to be going backwards, with no improvement whatsoever? They had their chance to clean up corruption, they did so for that of their political enemies. But it got replaced by their own corruption. I don't see it changing, nobody in government want it to change (past present and future as far i can look into the future for now) as that means cutting their own extra income. The populace does not seem to care too much either otherwise they would demand clean politicians ect. So it won't change.. just the faces on the feeding through. Too bad that they think violence is accepted to hold on to power to gain power and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 56 minutes ago, JAG said: At what point can they claim to be a "hub"? Definitley after the probe and pie chart make an appearance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Corruption: Stealing from the people while claiming to return happiness to them. Balderdash ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Judging by the criticism of Prayuth's Government it would seem posters here have forgotten all the things he has done for the country. And so have I, please remind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Is ''slips'' or ''fell'' a good thing,or would that be ''gained'' or ''climbed''...corruption is so confusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 hours ago, NCC1701A said: that is what firing squads are for. They'll need these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Now every official can apply for a desk sign made of engraved metal saying: "Thailand- As you tumble to the ground pick me up on your way down." Combined with another one: "Welcome to the hub of inactive posts! How can I help you- for now?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 hours ago, darksidedog said: Anyone want to lay odds on how long it will be before our junta friends come up with some reason why the findings are flawed? There number one goal when they came to power was to stamp corruption out completely if I recall correctly, and surely they couldn't have failed so pitifully in that as to be going backwards, with no improvement whatsoever? Ah farang misunderstand. Eliminating corruption by the opposition was the goal. And by and large they've kept them away from the trough by hogging it themselves! (Sorry for pun). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 hours ago, darksidedog said: Anyone want to lay odds on how long it will be before our junta friends come up with some reason why the findings are flawed? There number one goal when they came to power was to stamp corruption out completely if I recall correctly, and surely they couldn't have failed so pitifully in that as to be going backwards, with no improvement whatsoever? wouldn't take that much, for a spin doctor to excise and graft themselves onto a better body part of the chart after all... they only have themselves to fool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, darksidedog said: . . . . surely they couldn't have failed so pitifully in that as to be going backwards . . . . . . and putting more candles on the corruption cake. And, beggar me, they do it with such straight faces and as if anything else would hinder their performance, a word that, in Thailand, has come to mean exactly that . . . going backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emdog Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Cleaning up corruption by opposition doesn't come cheap. It is not the Thai way for the rich to pay. Shows them respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyL Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 4 hours ago, rkidlad said: So not only was happiness not returned, but corruption has got worse. What an utter, utter waste of 5 years for the majority. I'm sure the 1% have been enjoying themselves, mind. Absolutely. I think most of the nation don't care either. It really is a nation of zombies when it comes to stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Must be one of the few country's that needs a graft commission on their own graft commission???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 So the bribe to Transparency International didn't have the desired effect. Get the money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, BobbyL said: Absolutely. I think most of the nation don't care either. It really is a nation of zombies when it comes to stuff like this. I doubt if this is a news item in any Thai language newspaper. Congrats to TV for publicising it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 The 'dead friend' story and subsequent exoneration probably dropped the index two points alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Leopard Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Going backwards. Surprise, surprise. Anyone got the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 They were knocked down one of those places when they stared charging 1,000 baht for a certificate of address... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I disagree that the country runs on graft, that it oils the wheels. That if you took away the graft the country would probably grind to a halt. Such slander should be cracked down on hard. Our betters show us how life should be lived, each one a shining example of selfless devotion to country. How I wish I could be as morally upright and prosperous as these. But in my moral depravity I'm destined to a life of poverty, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Ah farang misunderstand. Eliminating corruption by the opposition was the goal. And by and large they've kept them away from the trough by hogging it themselves! (Sorry for pun). False promises by politicians are not only applicable to Thailand. If you look at all the other countries, astute leaders made promises of solutions to all the country’s malaise if they were elected. It is really confounding to see the masses really believed all the BS fed to them time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I think Thai people don’t really care about corruption at the top because of their feudal patriarchal system. The lower level of society are loyal to their immediate boss who they believe will take care of their well being. This works upwards level by level until the lower masses are insulated from the top echelons,the elites, in policy makings. So long as the bosses take care of those below them, the masses do not think much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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