Cellular Towers in Thailand- No Rules

[XBroker]

On 1/30/2019 at 12:06 AM, AnnaBanana said:

What are some of the rules you'd like to see introduced?

I'm not baiting you on this... I'd really like to know.

Um.. this stuff was never tested for safety (before it was rolled out)... period. YOU are the guinea pig. I would like every human this garbage has been tested on to be sequestered.  Obviously that's not going to happen. This test has been ongoing now for at least 30 years. Now 230 not bought off scientists have weighed in. The results aren't good. This stuff needs to come down. I'm not interested in negotiating with the devil.

 

Another link I meant to include above.

https://educate-yourself.org/mc/introMCandEMFweapons05jan04.shtml

Edited January 31, 2019 by XBroker

[XBroker]

22 hours ago, chingmai331 said:

5G cell connections, forecast within the next 3-5 yrs in T'land, require many more cell towers, compared to current 3/4G.  So many more towers will be in every neighborhood. 

How else could driverless cars work unless hooked to a nearby tower?

Driverless cars are a red herring. That is just an excuse they're using to roll out 5G. Driverless cars will never become a reality.  Based on what i've seen just from google maps, Thailand and many other places have a much worse problem right now. This is an Agenda 21 genocide program.

Edited January 31, 2019 by XBroker

[at15]

im on the same page XBroker, what are the best countries to go ? 

[XBroker]

8 hours ago, seancbk said:

What are you bothered about?   Go to any large city and cell transmitters are mounted on the sides of as many buildings as necessary to provide the services we all demand. 

I have a Thai friend who's company builds and operates large cell towers.  He rents them to the phone companies to put their transmitters on.   Several years ago he showed me some financials and that business was generating 150 million THB a year.   Needless to say he also drives a Lamborghini.   

So as along as your friend is getting rich off of it, it must be good? You do realize this stuff was never tested for safety? I tried cell phones in the 80's, first generation. I got headaches & insomnia right off.  I took it back and they wanted a termination fee. I said, I don't honor contracts on defective products. They waived the fee. I never used cell phones again.

 

What is my concern? Society has lost its collective mind would be one that comes to mind. ????  I'm stuck  inside the movie the idocracy would be another.

[XBroker]

7 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

 

As far as EM radiation causing harm. Its like Global Warming and other topics, there are conspiracy theories everywhere on these subjects, people need to do some research for themselves.

Sorry, but this is no longer a theory. This technology isn't safe. It's a proven fact.

[shy coconut]

51 minutes ago, XBroker said:

I'm often surprised at how this has flown under the radar of so many people; but I also realize there is a thou shalt not take thyne cell phone name in vain thing going on. Why do you think the call them cellular phones? They affect you on a cellular level. They hide the truth in plain sight.

 

This stuff is extremely dangerous. I'm EMF radiation sensitive, so I feel it in real time. Just because you don't feel it, doesn't mean it does not affect you.

 

I started a picture blog about some of the horrific places these things are being placed. This is Agenda 21. This will not end well.

 

Here are some other good sources for research.

 

http://wifidangers.com/

 

I hope you're not using WiFi to post.

 

[shy coconut]

From what I've read here, there are so many causes in Thailand of premature death;

 

Soi dogs

Gangs of Thai males beating innocent tourists for no reason.

42kg bar girls tossing punters off of balconies*

Road traffic accidents

Smog

Southern Muslim insurgents

Snakes

Public transport

 

There are many other deadly scenarios, unlisted in case I fall foul of the board rules.

 

I don't think Thailand is the place for you if you spend your time hiding under the bed

from x-rays or whatever it is that has you spooked!

 

*That is off, of, not off on!!!!

[Krataiboy]

11 hours ago, Caldera said:

Nonsensical scaremongering, nothing else.

You hope.

[XBroker]

4 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

You hope.

'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.'- Mark Twain

[XBroker]

7 hours ago, shy coconut said:

I hope you're not using WiFi to post.

 

Reread post #36 of this thread? But plz wait until you get home & do it on a wired computer. ????

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎1‎/‎31‎/‎2019 at 4:07 AM, amexpat said:

 

Save yourself. It's too late for me. I am doomed from years of using a microwave oven. 

My mother refused to use one of them because of the "radiation". I happily use one all the time and have not yet grown an extra head.

 

To the OP- you are living in Thailand; what else did you expect? The lack of rules there allowed me to live a wonderful life of debauchery that would never have been possible back in the "home country", given the bureaucracy's desire to regulate all fun out of life. 

I'll take cell phone towers anywhere over rules and regulations over everything anytime.

[observer90210]

Cell towers ? no problem for health..all ok....just like cigarettes...no problem, all ok...good for you.

[amexpat]

People who believe in a conspiracy or two tend to believe in most conspiracy theories.

 

May we hear from XBroker, observer90210, Krataiboy, et. al. about some other things known only to 

your select few?  The perils of vaccines, fake moon landings, jet chemtrails, other dangers?  

 

Thank you and be safe out there. 

[canthai55]

I'm often surprised at how this has flown under the radar of so many people; but I also realize there is a thou shalt not take thyne cell phone name in vain thing going on. Why do you think the call them cellular phones? They affect you on a cellular level. They hide the truth in plain sight.
 
This stuff is extremely dangerous. I'm EMF radiation sensitive, so I feel it in real time. Just because you don't feel it, doesn't mean it does not affect you.
 
I started a picture blog about some of the horrific places these things are being placed. This is Agenda 21. This will not end well.
 
Here are some other good sources for research.
 
http://wifidangers.com/
 

Cell fones are so called because they effect you on a cellular level ? 555
Called that because each coverage area for one antennae array is called a cell.

Sent from my Nexus 10 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

[Krataiboy]

2 hours ago, amexpat said:

People who believe in a conspiracy or two tend to believe in most conspiracy theories.

 

May we hear from XBroker, observer90210, Krataiboy, et. al. about some other things known only to 

your select few?  The perils of vaccines, fake moon landings, jet chemtrails, other dangers?  

 

Thank you and be safe out there. 

Some "conspiracy theories" are, of course, just that and only peddled by the ill-informed and mischievous. Others, over time, turn out to be true.

 

It pays to do some meaningful research before knee-jerking into a "Conspiracy theory!" routine and handing out tinfoil hats. 

 

Never mind the real or imagined health hazards of EMF radiation. Keeping your head buried in the sand can be just as unhealthy.

 

On the particular issue under discussion (wireless radiation), there is a growing body of evidence from numerous credible sources that more research is nececessary into the health risks before ramping the roll-out of digital technology with 5g.

 

I and other concerned Forum members have already referenced information for those who wish to do more than simply sneer at the legitimate concerns being raised (not only by lay people but also health workers and scientists who specialise in this field. Below is just one example of their worrying findings). 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/major-cell-phone-radiation-study-reignites-cancer-questions/

 

On the subject of conspiracy theories generally, the urbane and knowledgeable James Corbett has some challenging thoughts worth a listen.

https://www.corbettreport.com/5-conspiracy-theories-that-became-conspiracy-facts/

https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1415-james-corbett-on-proven-conspiracies/

 

Like I said earlier, forewarned is forearmed.

 

 

Edited February 1, 2019 by Krataiboy

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

It pays to do some meaningful research before knee-jerking into a "Conspiracy theory!" routine and handing out tinfoil hats. 

How would you suggest anyone does 'meaningful research'?

Just an example of 'meaningful research', try typing 'happy families' into the google search box, then click 'images' and the resulting pictures would suggest nearly all photos of 'happy families' include black people.

 

I would suggest there is no way for a normal person to do 'meaningful research', only ways for you to view left-wing globalist multicultural propaganda.

[tifino]

 hmmm 'meaningful research' =  Michael Moore.

 

after what he uncovered what was being exposed to the peoples of Flint, Michigan;

well, cellphone cover ups would be like a walk in the park for him! 

or at least a free sponsored trip over to LOS

[Krataiboy]

15 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I would suggest there is no way for a normal person to do 'meaningful research', only ways for you to view left-wing globalist multicultural propaganda.

Nice to know somebody appreciates me.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Krataiboy said:

Some "conspiracy theories" are, of course, just that and only peddled by the ill-informed and mischievous. Others, over time, turn out to be true.

 

It pays to do some meaningful research before knee-jerking into a "Conspiracy theory!" routine and handing out tinfoil hats. 

 

Never mind the real or imagined health hazards of EMF radiation. Keeping your head buried in the sand can be just as unhealthy.

 

On the particular issue under discussion (wireless radiation), there is a growing body of evidence from numerous credible sources that more research is nececessary into the health risks before ramping the roll-out of digital technology with 5g.

 

I and other concerned Forum members have already referenced information for those who wish to do more than simply sneer at the legitimate concerns being raised (not only by lay people but also health workers and scientists who specialise in this field. Below is just one example of their worrying findings). 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/major-cell-phone-radiation-study-reignites-cancer-questions/

 

On the subject of conspiracy theories generally, the urbane and knowledgeable James Corbett has some challenging thoughts worth a listen.

https://www.corbettreport.com/5-conspiracy-theories-that-became-conspiracy-facts/

https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1415-james-corbett-on-proven-conspiracies/

 

Like I said earlier, forewarned is forearmed.

 

 

If it turns out that cell phones are killing us, people will stop using them- goody. Then there won't be any more antisocial idiots shouting on mobile phones on public transport, and launching into meaningless conversations with their imaginary friends in public libraries at a max noise level. 

[XBroker]

15 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Cell fones are so called because they effect you on a cellular level ? 555
Called that because each coverage area for one antennae array is called a cell.

Sent from my Nexus 10 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

Yes, I've heard that story. ????

Satan Claus is another of my favs.. ????????

Edited February 1, 2019 by XBroker

[XBroker]

12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If it turns out that cell phones are killing us, people will stop using them- goody. Then there won't be any more antisocial idiots shouting on mobile phones on public transport, and launching into meaningless conversations with their imaginary friends in public libraries at a max noise level. 

Problem is, cellular towers and phones already are killing people and people aren't stopping. The obits here in the US are full of young people dying of cancer & the powers that supposedly be are covering it up. Do you think a country that puts a cell tower on every other roof top (Thailand) is going to lead the way out of the darkness?

 

Was recently in what passes for a pizza joint here in flyover, where I've retreated to. I call this 8000 acres the gaza strip because I don't and really can't venture out very often. It's cell tower free. The EMF readings are as low as they can get. (kinda what I'd like to find somewhere where there are real women left).

 

The lady in the Pizza joint was telling me about her wireless cash register.

Things are going in the wrong direction. That thing read, at one point,, 51 (full) watts per meter squared. I can never go back there.

 

What's worse is people are being slowly dumbed down, the ability to convince them of anything is being removed from them. It's pretty much already full on idiocracy. The more of this kind of feedback we get from attempts we make like this, I think the more people like me are becoming convinced we're wasting our time.

 

Maybe the scariest part is empathy is diminished and even destroyed in people who have long term EMF radiation exposure. This is not a theory. It's a scientific fact.   They want transhumanism and removing empathy goes a long way towards that. People can kill and do other things with no remorse. Look around. It's already happening. This experiment is 30 years in. You're the lab rat.

Edited February 1, 2019 by XBroker

[bhatmasterson]

22 hours ago, amexpat said:

People who believe in a conspiracy or two tend to believe in most conspiracy theories.

 

May we hear from XBroker, observer90210, Krataiboy, et. al. about some other things known only to 

your select few?  The perils of vaccines, fake moon landings, jet chemtrails, other dangers?  

 

Thank you and be safe out there. 

Building 7

[lordblackader]

Oh dear god! I'm shocked!!!

 

Cell phone towers are required to have cell phone access in 2019. 

 

I never knew that, thank you for your insightful post. 

[amexpat]

9 hours ago, XBroker said:

Yes, I've heard that story. ????

Satan Claus is another of my favs.. ????????

If you should dare to get near a television set, I think you would like the character Charles 

on Better Call Saul.  Soul mate. 

[michaeldakota]

There actually is a growing body of concerning evidence out there in the scientific community regarding cellular radiation, specifically relating to living nearby or under cell towers. I'm surprised that people here still wave it away as hog-wash. Maybe 10 years ago such an attitude might have been reasonable by lack of information, but these days it's practically as if you're Trump and denying climate change.  And we all know how that looks. 

 

All studies below are peer-reviewed, by credible sources (universities, research groups etc in both modern and developing countries). Many studies that you find easily that show no or no significant impact of RF radiation are done incorrectly, incompletely or deliberately wrong. Just like with any huge business there are companies protecting their investments. Doctors were hired to promote smoking in the 1950's, research papers fabricated out of nothing, conclusions paid for. Monsanto (oh no did I just drop the M-bomb!) has been cunningly manipulating worldwide research outcomes by removing sponsorship of educational and research institutes if these expressed doubt or concern about Monsanto chemicals or technology for decades. It's nothing special, big business has always successfully manipulated the opinion of both the masses and politicians to get away with a lot of things. We're still smoking cigarettes after all, and there's ample proof that smoking is damaging to society and individual health in a million ways. Financial benefits always precede the health of the citizen. And that's that. 

 

Boys living nearer to cell towers show cognitive decline and other changes

"Calvente et al in Spain (17) measured outside the homes of 123 boys aged 10 years. For all houses, the root mean-square of power density (SRMS) was 286 µW/m2 and the maximum power density (SRMS) was 2,760 µW/m2 for frequencies between 100 kHz and 6 GHz. The range between highest and lowest measured mean was large, ranging from 5.5 to 11,560 µW/m2. The 10-year old boys with higher exposure of RF radiation in their immediate surroundings of their dwellings showed statistically significant lower scores in expression and comprehension, and higher behavioral and emotional problems, including anxiety and depressed behavior in different tests."

 

Low-power WIFI radiation increases epigenetic changes and cancer risk in Rats

"Two long-term studies have exposed rats for 24 h a day for 12 months to RF radiation emitted from a Wi-Fi system at 2.4 GHz. The peak power was 100,000 µW [0.1 Watt], with the antenna 50 cm above the cage. The SAR value over 10 g of brain tissue was 1,030 µW/kg. One study examined 5 different microRNAs (miRNA) in the rat brains, 2 of which decreased at least 70%. miRNA is important in the proliferation, differentiation, function and maintenance of all cells, including neurons; and dysfunction of their pathways can contribute to pathogenesis of neurodegenerative disorders, as well as being a key indicator of epigenetic changes and cancer risk (37)."

 

Meta-study of 100 studies shows DNA-damage with exposure to RF radiation far below current norms

"In a review of 100 studies, Yakymenko et al (42) showed oxidative effects of low-intensity RF radiation on living cells, with exposure down to 2,500 µW/m2 (43). SAR values down to 600 µW/kg increased oxidative stress in the cells (44,45). Embryos of Japanese quails were exposed to RF radiation using GSM 900 MHz (46). The average intensity of RF radiation on the surface of hatching eggs was 2,500 µW/m2 (0.25 µW/cm2). SAR was calculated to be 3 µW/kg. A statistically significant overproduction of reactive oxygen species (ROS) and oxidative damage of DNA in living cells was reported compared with the control group given no exposure. The exposure was far below the guideline of the ICNIRP for RF radiation at 2 to 10 W/m2 depending on frequency and 2 W/kg to the brain. The results showed that the ICNIRP guidelines are outdated. Moreover, using a safety factor of 10 would give 250 µW/m2 as a guideline, a level easily exceeded in many places, e.g., our measurements taken at the Stockholm Central Railway Station (13), in the Old Town (14) and in most rooms in the present apartment at Östermalm."

 

Even with very low exposure to 900MHz radiation there is significant and consistent decline in memory performance in rats

"Even a SAR value down to 85 µW/kg exposure from 900 MHz during 2 h/day, 5 days/week for 30 days, increased oxidative stress parameters in lipid peroxidation and protein oxidation, and resulted in a statistically significant impairment in spatial memory in rats (49)."

 

Study shows clear link between RF radiation and DNA-damage and possible carcinogenic long-term effects

"The National Toxicology Program (NTP) under the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in the USA released a report in 2016 which showed an increased incidence of glioma in the brain and malignant schwannoma in the heart in up to 2 years in RF irradiated rats. These findings support human epidemiological studies on brain tumor risk and strengthen the association between RF radiation and cancer. Recent results from the NTP study showed genotoxicity of RF radiation in rats and mice (52). This result supports several previous findings of DNA strand-breaks in rat brain cells exposed to RF radiation, as first published by Lai and Singh (53). RF radiation leads to oxidative stress in biological systems, including the brain, due to an increase in free radicals and changes in antioxidant defence systems."

 

How many studies in regards to childhood leukemia come to different conclusions - yet no possible alternative explanation apart from RF radiation exposure has been proposed.

"Non-ionizing radiation has been studied as a possible risk factor since more than 30 years. No carcinogenic potential of low-level fields (levels below ICNIRP recommendations) has been revealed in experimental studies. However, a consistent pattern of a two-fold increase in childhood leukemia is observed in epidemiological studies associated with average exposure to residential low-frequency magnetic fields above 0,3-0,4 µT. The epidemiological evidence is weakened by methodological limitations and no accepted or even plausible biophysical mechanism challenging the crucial question of causal relationship are currently available.

The apparent inconsistencies between empirical findings and the lack of supportive experimental data have to be considered in the light of other possible risk factors and of new data on the complex origin of childhood leukemia. A number of recent studies supports the hypothesis that initiation of the disease arises prenatally and that exposures before birth or early in life and/or an abnormal immune response play an important role in its further manifestation. "

[dcnx]

On 1/30/2019 at 9:57 PM, BritManToo said:

You do understand that Google manipulates the data and results.

Research using Google is worthless for almost everything.

People are laughing at this comment but there is some truth to it.

 

Search engines use an algorithm that serves you results based on your activity, the type of content you normally look at, user history, where you are, and a lot of other factors.

 

In other words, they serve you want they think you want to see, based off of the data they have collected from you.

 

If we all searched the same phrase or keyword now, most of us will get varying results.

 

This is both fascinating and terrifying.

[XBroker]

I use duck, duck, go.  Guess that also means I'm a conspiracy theorist. ????

The phrase conspiracy theorist was coined by the CIA to silence dissenters. Glad to see people from all over the world are looking at my blog on this topic. I hope many will eventually internalize the message & research it for themselves. Just take an Coronet EMF meter to your nearest cell towers, wireless connection, etc. It may be eye opening if you have eyes to see.

[XBroker]

On 2/1/2019 at 8:28 PM, lordblackader said:

Oh dear god! I'm shocked!!!

 

Cell phone towers are required to have cell phone access in 2019. 

 

I never knew that, thank you for your insightful post. 

Everything is a joke, until it isn't.

[XBroker]

https://www.activistpost.com/2018/09/schools-converting-wired-internet-wi-fried-free-documentary.html

https://www.activistpost.com/2019/02/150-letters-doctors-scientists-convince-schools-replace-harmful-wifi-wired-internet.html

Edited February 5, 2019 by XBroker

[XBroker]

It's clear that people don't care about those of us who have to live the life of a prisoner because of all of this. As an added bonus we get to watch others die from it & are called crazy. I've known society really does not care about us for at least 10 years. I continue to hope the world will wake up and one day I too can come out and play, fall in love again.. hug someone. I can afford to travel where ever I want, but I can't because of this.  Blessings to you all. Thank you for reading this topic. The only fight I can fight is one that springs me from this prison.