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I suppose this one goes out to all the farang out there who have had half Thai kids here.

 

I have been here a few years yet I only have a smattering of the Thai language, I can get by, but I am in no way fluent, I have problems with the tones and the fact one word has many meanings depending on the tone. My wife hasn't been much help because she likes to speak English whenever she can...

 

We had a child about 5 months ago and I am a bit concerned that I am going to have trouble communicating with him... I speak pure English to him all the time and everyone else uses Thai. How did other farang get around this?... Do you have to sit them down and give them intensive English language lessons or does it just come naturally to them?

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Interestingly it seems to vary from kid to kid. I'd say that my older daughter (8 soon) has English as first language, she can read, write and speak better than I, english being my third language which I learnt when I was in my late twenties. Second daughter (3) speaks a lot of Thai and good english with me, reckon Thai will be her first language but this may change. The little one interacts a lot with Granma, the older one hardly.

I think the key is to have a proper Farang style family life, share a lot, and expose our kids to a lot of Mum/Dad interaction. I have also taken some risk in giving them a lot (???) of Youtube access where they get exposure to better phonetics. There is hardly any Thai content watched in our home.

Now of course there is the question of how you see (dream ?) the future of your kids, as far as I am concerned I'd prefer they settle in AU/NZ or EU for their working lives, as they have the right passports. The work/life balance/limit doesn't seem right to me here.

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Just wait until your child is old enough to listen to Youtube and play video games. All the good content is in English. My kids, despite going to school in Thai and speaking Thai to their mother, only want to speak and communicate in English. Their entire online existence revolves around English speaking content, so for them that is their native tongue. Few of their peers in school speak English.

 

I think you have to actively try to prevent children from falling into English today if there is even a hint of English around the house.  Once they become comfortable with it, they will prefer it to Thai.  The online content is just so much richer.

 

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I have not done anything special for my son to learn English I talk in English his mother in Thai now at 10 years old he talks both fluently but I am with him whenever he not at school so I think that must of help him in speaking English

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"I speak pure English to him all the time and everyone else uses Thai. How did other farang get around this?"

 

Do exactly as you and your wife are doing and your son will be bilingual in english and thai.

 

My kids at an early age (they attend bilingual  school) were mainly in a thai-speaking world with the exception of me. My wife speaks to them in english and thai. 

 

Based on my kids and the luuk khrung kids of friends, these luuk khruengs speak or become proficient  in languages later than kids who just speak in one language, i guess because their brain as a baby / toddler has more of a language-jigsaw to piece together. I also base my comment on observing all the thai kids in our extended family who spoke earlier.

 

Interestingly my kids have never picked up my wife's  isaan from her even though she talks in isaan to her family members who are often around our place. 

 

My kids talk to each other in thai. They have always preferred to watch tv and movies in english. They seem to like thai and western music in equal  measures. Based on their English you wouldn't think they'd be raised in a thai-speaking world.

 

So you and your wife just talk normally to your son in your own language and he will be bilingual.

 

 

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Neighbours (thai wife / english husband) chose not to speak to their first kid in english and he went from an early age to english  school. Result is he couldn't speak thai.

 

2nd kid was looked after by thai maid, parents again spoke only english and he went from an early age to english  school. Result is he could speak a little thai.

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My son is 4 and has been exposed to YouTube since 1, about 6 hours per day probably. He was watching Russian, Spanish and English among others I presume, I was going to limit the exposure if I found anything negative, I didn’t. He now speaks a lot of english but no idea if he picked anything else up. He started a trilingual kindergarten but cannot speak Thai and only sings in Chinese. All other kids either speak Chinese or Thai, maybe both but only one other english speaker. I think exposure needs to be more equal. He doesn’t like watching Thai cartoons because he cannot understand.

Oh the negative of all the YouTube is he is rubbish with a pen for writing, drawing or colouring and has no interest in reading.


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Just make sure to speak English with him all the time (do not let your wife speak that Pigeon English that Thais try - make her stick with only Thai) After a while you will notice your kid switches between Thai with her and English with you. Around two years you will see it working. Expose him to English using the internet, typing etc. Get English DVD's, games etc. English books. Most of all just talk normally to him. My son is fluent in both Thai and English, no special teaching, they just learn amazingly! I have been told he even has my accent, although I cannot hear it.

Don't stress, he will learn no problem. You will also need to tell him to ignore quite a bit of the BAD English he will be taught at  school, by Thai teachers who cannot pronounce words correctly - This is the norm, and you will no doubt get a few good laughs at what he comes home and tells you.

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4 hours ago, quandow said:

By the looks of your spelling, punctuation and grammar, your kid will definitely be bi-lingual. Well done!

Pray point out my errors, I am always willing to learn. My son is already bi-lingual.

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If he anything like my daughter was very poor with english until she started a kindergarten with a english program, only problem was her teacher was American and she now speaks with a American accent.

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My kid speaks fantastic English and we did not give him lessons, he just picked it up naturally as my wife and I talk in English at home. At kindergarten he was taught in only Thai and fairly quickly he was bi-lingual. One other important thing to do is make sure he/she watches their cartoons in English. I cannot emphasise how improtant this is! My boy is always picking up new slang and phrases which still makes me chuckle. It really is nothing to worry about and will take care of itself.

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My half Thai/English niece and nephew speak, read and write both Thai and English fluently. The rule is that they only speak English in the house (and that includes the Mum) and away from the house, whichever they choose. I'm sure a little home schooling goes into it as well. It works for them.

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7 hours ago, KiChakayan said:

Interestingly it seems to vary from kid to kid. I'd say that my older daughter (8 soon) has English as first language, she can read, write and speak better than I, english being my third language which I learnt when I was in my late twenties. Second daughter (3) speaks a lot of Thai and good english with me, reckon Thai will be her first language but this may change. The little one interacts a lot with Granma, the older one hardly.

I think the key is to have a proper Farang style family life, share a lot, and expose our kids to a lot of Mum/Dad interaction. I have also taken some risk in giving them a lot (???) of Youtube access where they get exposure to better phonetics. There is hardly any Thai content watched in our home.

Now of course there is the question of how you see (dream ?) the future of your kids, as far as I am concerned I'd prefer they settle in AU/NZ or EU for their working lives, as they have the right passports. The work/life balance/limit doesn't seem right to me here.

Plus the parents have to actively / continuously find / make a reason to speak some English, always perfect English, never Tinglish. 

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8 hours ago, Brewster67 said:

We had a child about 5 months ago and I am a bit concerned that I am going to have trouble communicating with him... I speak pure English to him all the time and everyone else uses Thai. How did other farang get around this?... Do you have to sit them down and give them intensive English language lessons or does it just come naturally to them?

No problem.

 

Speak and play and be with them as much as possible.

 

If they watch kid's cartoons or shows, have them on in English. 

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26 minutes ago, greenmonkey said:

My kid speaks fantastic English and we did not give him lessons, he just picked it up naturally as my wife and I talk in English at home. At kindergarten he was taught in only Thai and fairly quickly he was bi-lingual. One other important thing to do is make sure he/she watches their cartoons in English. I cannot emphasise how improtant this is! My boy is always picking up new slang and phrases which still makes me chuckle. It really is nothing to worry about and will take care of itself.

Agree with this, completely. 

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6 hours ago, quandow said:

By the looks of your spelling, punctuation and grammar, your kid will definitely be bi-lingual. Well done!

Your KID will probably speak 'goat'.

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Better for the native speakers use their language to the kids and they will pick up both, also helps to read to them when they are young, and have them read as they get older. My kid as most mixed Thai/English speaks both languages seamlessly. Even had Chinese for a while when he was younger but not now. They are little sponges and will soak up everything.

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My boy is 4 year old now, when he talks to his mother it's mostly in thai but as soon as he turns to me he switches to English, like you my thai is poor I have also started speaking a little Spanish to him as I am fluent in that language, I would also like him to learn mandarin, as said children are very good a learning in the early years but remember thai will probably be there number 1 language so cant over do it, little by little !! 

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