Retirement Visa Extension at Jomtien. Nightmare !!

[Juan B Tong]

Just back from Jomtien Immigration.  High anxiety preparing all the documents. I had gotten an income letter from the US Embo. in Dec. Copied all the docs same as last year.  Marriage cert., wife's condo ownership papers, Wifey's ID, all pages used in my passport.  Completed application form and photo. All signed by wifey and me.

I cleared the reception desk with ticket 818.

Sat down at 10:29AM. Counter clicked from 817. Gave the sporty young dude all my stuff. He looked all my docs over and underlined some stuff with yellow highlighter, handed unneeded papers back.  I had to sign the new rules acknowledgement.  He asked for the B1900, handed me a chit and told my to come back Monday aft.

I was on the street calling my wife to come pick me up at 10:39.

Because of posts by some anal retentive OCD posters, I also took old passport, bankbooks, US docs showing sources of my funds.  All of which were not requested or needed.

I just took the same stuff as last year.

 

Oh, I had the nightmare last night, but I woke up, had a piss and a puff or two of some medicine, went back to bed.

[ubonjoe]

But are you preparing for next year when you will not have a income affidavit by transferring your income in every month from abroad.

[Juan B Tong]

38 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

But are you preparing for next year when you will not have a income affidavit by transferring your income in every month from abroad.

DOH!

Are you ready?

(I'll show my B800K stashed ina bank.)

[rott]

2 minutes ago, Juan B Tong said:

DOH!

Are you ready?

(I'll show my B800K stashed ina bank.)

So anybody who has a different experience to you is a neurotic liar with a wild imagination.

[Juan B Tong]

1 minute ago, rott said:

So anybody who has a different experience to you is a neurotic liar with a wild imagination.

Nah, maybe just you?

[Psimbo]

You sbmitted the correct paperwork, were in Immigration for TEN minutes, the stamp is in the passport and you will collect it on Monday.

 

At what point was there a 'nightmare' scenario?

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Psimbo said:

You sbmitted the correct paperwork, were in Immigration for TEN minutes, the stamp is in the passport and you will collect it on Monday.

 

At what point was there a 'nightmare' scenario?

Sarcasm. 

[ThaiBunny]

1 minute ago, Psimbo said:

You sbmitted the correct paperwork, were in Immigration for TEN minutes, the stamp is in the passport and you will collect it on Monday.  At what point was there a 'nightmare' scenario?

Did you actually read his post, including the last sentence?

[tlandtday]

yeah i wouldn't be too confident that future problems may not arise as this poster was still included within the past guidelines for the income letter.

[Jingthing]

59 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

But are you preparing for next year when you will not have a income affidavit by transferring your income in every month from abroad.

Great point.

For a retirement extension next year full 65K income he will need to show a history of 12 months monthly transfers into a Thai bank account, coded as incoming foreign transfers. No flexibility allowed.  So that would mean he should have already STARTED doing that already. 

[ubonjoe]

47 minutes ago, Juan B Tong said:

Are you ready?

This year is the same for as next year for some people for me.

My extension is not due until August. A income affidavit was not an option for me.

But I have had well over 40k baht going into my bank account for years already so no problem to apply for my 12th extension based upon marriage. 

[bkk6060]

Ground control to Major Tong.

Sorry Bowie.  Actually it was Major Tom.

Anyway,  good job sounds like you had your act together way to go.

Congrats..

 

[Juan B Tong]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Great point.

For a retirement extension next year full 65K income he will need to show a history of 12 months monthly transfers into a Thai bank account, coded as incoming foreign transfers. No flexibility allowed.  So that would mean he should have already STARTED doing that already. 

Or 800k properly seasoned.

Edited March 22, 2019 by Juan B Tong

[Jingthing]

Or 800k properly seasoned.

Seasoned money. The best kind.

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[arithai12]

3 hours ago, Juan B Tong said:

Or 800k properly seasoned.

I keep my passbook in a container with olive oil and oregano, I hope it will be accepted.

[Jingthing]

I keep my passbook in a container with olive oil and oregano, I hope it will be accepted.

Add dried red chili and Himalayan kumquat cider salt and you're good to go


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[jacko45k]

9 hours ago, arithai12 said:

I keep my passbook in a container with olive oil and oregano, I hope it will be accepted.

If you use caraway or fennel it will be seeded, seasoned would require salt and pepper! Olive oil would perhaps help to grease some palms. 

[DuiDui48]

17 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

This year is the same for as next year for some people for me.

My extension is not due until August. A income affidavit was not an option for me.

But I have had well over 40k baht going into my bank account for years already so no problem to apply for my 12th extension based upon marriage. 

God morning UJ!!

Friend of mine is worrying about not having 40.000 in everage/month..sometimes dips down to 38000/month..can he borrow let's say 100.000 from me and season his income/pension to reach the minimum 40.000/month.He is due in a couple of month.Thanks for reading and maybe having a answer...Have a great day sir.

[ubonjoe]

29 minutes ago, DuiDui48 said:

God morning UJ!!

Friend of mine is worrying about not having 40.000 in everage/month..sometimes dips down to 38000/month..can he borrow let's say 100.000 from me and season his income/pension to reach the minimum 40.000/month.He is due in a couple of month.Thanks for reading and maybe having a answer...Have a great day sir.

Basically no unless he could send it into the country from abroad to make up the difference for few months.

It has to be a total annual income 480k baht transferred into the country for 12 months to reach the average of 40k baht.

[Martyp]

29 minutes ago, DuiDui48 said:

God morning UJ!!

Friend of mine is worrying about not having 40.000 in everage/month..sometimes dips down to 38000/month..can he borrow let's say 100.000 from me and season his income/pension to reach the minimum 40.000/month.He is due in a couple of month.Thanks for reading and maybe having a answer...Have a great day sir.

I believe the money needs to be of foreign origin. If he gets it from someone then he has to deposit it in his foreign bank account and then transfer it into Thailand. 

[alex8912]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

If you use caraway or fennel it will be seeded, seasoned would require salt and pepper! Olive oil would perhaps help to grease some palms. 

Thanks OP for no scare mongering for a change from down there in Jomtien! 

As far as the seasoning is concerned is sea salt allowed or does it have to be some other kind of salt? 

[Happystance]

18 hours ago, Juan B Tong said:

Nah, maybe just you?

Well aren't you special!

Give the lad a cookie folks

[bert bloggs]

So as not to have these problems i am changing to the marriage extension .

[JimSaints]

Good for you it went smooth - an insult to all that have trouble with these people to write like its a piece of cake.

 

Cant wait until they turn the screw a little more soon ...

[Wuvu2]

20 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

But are you preparing for next year when you will not have a income affidavit by transferring your income in every month from abroad.

Ubon Joe - what are the requirements for the transfer deposit to be documented correctly in the bank book? I so far have not found the right way to transfer from USA my  bank.

 

In the meantime, I'm doing cash withdrawals from my US Bank ATM and depositing in my Thai bank. Will that fly? My renewal isn't until December and I'm dreading doing the big 800k deposit. 

 

Thanks!

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[Pattaya46]

20 hours ago, Juan B Tong said:

Marriage cert., wife's condo ownership papers, Wifey's ID, all pages used in my passport.  Completed application form and photo. All signed by wifey and me.

No surprise that your extension has been so slow (10 minutes!), you gave them tonnes of unrequired documents that make the check more complicated !

- Why giving so many documents about/by your wife when asking for a Retirement extension ???

- Why all pages of passport? They just want the details page, original Visa (or Transfer), last Extension stamp, and last enter stamp + TM6

K.I.S.S. 

 

[EL159]

Also very positive report from Chiang Mai. My agent ( yes, my choice to use one!) had me on standby to arrive after 4pm on Monday. He called me at 4.10, I arrived at 4.45, only thing to do was electronic photo at the desk, passport already stamped, out by 4.50, job done. Fastest ever!

 

I honestly think that all the complaints on this site that have worried us are from people who in fact dont have full and correct income, or paperwork, or whatever. If you follow the rules and regs, and do it right, theres no problem at all.

[phutoie2]

14 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

No surprise that your extension has been so slow (10 minutes!), you gave them tonnes of unrequired documents that make the check more complicated !

- Why giving so many documents about/by your wife when asking for a Retirement extension ???

- Why all pages of passport? They just want the details page, original Visa (or Transfer), last Extension stamp, and last enter stamp + TM6

K.I.S.S. 

 

maybe at Jomtien but not up in our IO, Phetchabun, copies of all pages passport, TM30 and 90 day slip, wifes Tabein Baan, ID card.

On one new form, wanted my mobile number, e-mail and Line ID.  I left it blank and was prepared to say none of your business, but they did not say anything.

[Juan B Tong]

25 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

No surprise that your extension has been so slow (10 minutes!), you gave them tonnes of unrequired documents that make the check more complicated !

- Why giving so many documents about/by your wife when asking for a Retirement extension ???

- Why all pages of passport? They just want the details page, original Visa (or Transfer), last Extension stamp, and last enter stamp + TM6

K.I.S.S. 

 

Yeah. 

Wife's condo.

No travel last year on new passport so all the pages empty except for those with the items you mentioned.

They kicked back a duplicate and one of the condo docs.

I think it took so long because I tried to chat him up.

[ubonjoe]

55 minutes ago, Wuvu2 said:

Ubon Joe - what are the requirements for the transfer deposit to be documented correctly in the bank book? I so far have not found the right way to transfer from USA my  bank.

 

In the meantime, I'm doing cash withdrawals from my US Bank ATM and depositing in my Thai bank. Will that fly? My renewal isn't until December and I'm dreading doing the big 800k deposit. 

The transfers need to show they came from abroad. There have been several topics on this forum about transferring the funds into the country. Many about the TransferWise option.

Withdrawals using ATM card a depositing it into your account will not be accepted since they will no be shown as transfers from abroad.