Jonnapat Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 3/27/2019 at 9:11 AM, Henryford said: Cost of leaving the EUSSR - priceless. As for the 6 million signatures ha ha, most were signed by cyberbots or people outside the UK. Totally nuts, obviously Brexit does not affect you !!, 1 1 Link to comment
rwill Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Humans are afraid of change. The fact the EU is fighting this so hard should show why it will be good for the UK in the long run. 2 Link to comment
hugh2121 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 3/27/2019 at 9:11 AM, Henryford said: Cost of leaving the EUSSR - priceless. As for the 6 million signatures ha ha, most were signed by cyberbots or people outside the UK. Leavers made this claim which has been proven untrue, like their claims pre 2016 referendum. Read the UK press and the government's own website. Link to comment
Popular Post allanos Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 The 2016 Referendum took the Establishment by surprise, because the Leave vote was unexpected and unanticipated (and so the lack of preparation for Leave is one of the problems which the Tory government has been battling with ever since). That said, should another referendum be held, what if the Establishment is again taken by surprise because a Leave vote is once more in the ascendancy? That would be 2 out of 3. Should the goal posts be moved again, to attempt to make it best out of 5 so that the remain vote wins? Democracy is not a moving target. The vote was held, and the Brexiteers won it; it is hard to swallow perhaps, for the Remainers, but it is a fact, and the British Parliament voted last night AGAINST another referendum. The Democrats in the USA have the same denial over the Trump victory. But denial, as we know, is a river in Egypt, and doesn't help a "loser's" cause. Best now to make the best of a poor job! 4 Link to comment
Bundooman Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Kalasin Jo said: seems a bit unhelpful, unnecessary, of you Why? Because he dares to challenge the credentials of an out and out "remainer"? Are you Nigerian? British born...… of course! 1 Link to comment
mikecha Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Kalasin Jo said: seems a bit unhelpful, unnecessary, of you yes silly remarks theguy trying to help the Brit x pats sign and help i saw yesterday the circus on tv what a mess never thaught the british goverment would make such a mess of things in 2 years and May they just le her do her thing then no brexit deal falls over few months but the petition maybe wakes the rest up Good luck there Link to comment
Longcut Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 What's to stop me from signing it. I am not even British. I wouldn't do it. But I am just saying, how honest of a petition can it be? 1 Link to comment
flossie35 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Irishrogue said: The majority in the country voted to leave now all the moaners want to circumvent the democratic process. 6 million is less than 10% of the population. It is a sad fact that "Those who shout loudest are heard first" and one might assume that the 6 million are made up in large part by people from other countries or Corben and his communist friends. They didn't - it was about 37% of the electorate. And the brexiters resorted to so many lies and illegalities that the whole thing would have been annulled had it been decisive. But it was only advisory. The authenticity of the petitioners - I was one - has been checked. Opinion polls show most people now want remain - sensible as any brexit leaves us worse off, except BINO which is rather pointless. 1 1 Link to comment
Letseng Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Irishrogue said: The majority in the country voted to leave now all the moaners want to circumvent the democratic process. 6 million is less than 10% of the population. It is a sad fact that "Those who shout loudest are heard first" and one might assume that the 6 million are made up in large part by people from other countries or Corben and his communist friends. Who is "Corben"? Link to comment
Kalasin Jo Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 hours ago, bert bloggs said: well ok all the other votes from around the world then non British I even know a Thai who signed for a laugh . ,that better? oh and the ones that vote dozens of times , it is a farce . False votes are removed. I watch the numbers go up, then fall back,then go up again. Presently just shy of 6 million. It's no joke. It's real. If you prefer you can vote for one of the leave petitions on there and and a further fall in the £, but they haven't attracted the same numbers. What actually happens is up to Parliament now, and they are taking notice. But like leave voters different factions in Parliament have different ideas of what brexit should look like. Interesting times, but bad for my pocket as one totally dependent on the currency exchange market. That alone tells us Brexit is bad for Britain. Plenty more evidence too if you look. 1 Link to comment
vogie Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Longcut said: What's to stop me from signing it. I am not even British. I wouldn't do it. But I am just saying, how honest of a petition can it be? You are correct, it is not honest at all, Julia Hartley Brewer signed it as 'Remoaner McRemoan Face" Link to comment
hidbehindthesofa Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 UK Government has rejected the petition as it goes against government policy and the democratic wish of the electorate to leave the EU. Parliament has voted against all eight of the alternative options or amendments to leaving the EU. Parliament has rejected the deal that is on the table (the one and only deal that the EU is prepared to offer. Parliament has voted not to leave the EU without a deal. MPs appear to be just digging themselves a deeper hole . . . 2 Link to comment
Bangkok Barry Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 3/27/2019 at 9:11 AM, Henryford said: Cost of leaving the EUSSR - priceless. As for the 6 million signatures ha ha, most were signed by cyberbots or people outside the UK. Do you have any facts to back up your claim - a link perhaps - or are you just spouting rubbish because you have nothing better to do? Link to comment
Kalasin Jo Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, Letseng said: Who is "Corben"? The ones who have been shouting loudest have been leavers for the last 2 1/2 years. Remainers not given any kind of say by the appalling May Government and little by Labour which has just sat on the fence. Biggest step in UK history, only 1 vote by the people. Leavers didn't know then what what they were getting, false promises,different factions have different ideas of what brexit should be. It's a mess. 1 1 Link to comment
Kalasin Jo Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, hidbehindthesofa said: UK Government has rejected the petition as it goes against government policy and the democratic wish of the electorate to leave the EU. Parliament has voted against all eight of the alternative options or amendments to leaving the EU. Parliament has rejected the deal that is on the table (the one and only deal that the EU is prepared to offer. Parliament has voted not to leave the EU without a deal. MPs appear to be just digging themselves a deeper hole . . . Quite, after over 2 years. Leavers still don't know what they want. 2 weeks to go. Link to comment
Kalasin Jo Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, rwill said: Humans are afraid of change. The fact the EU is fighting this so hard should show why it will be good for the UK in the long run. The EU has only done what it could in view of May's red lines. There is a deal, but nobody in the UK wants it. 1 Link to comment
Popular Post champers Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Kalasin Jo said: False votes are removed. I watch the numbers go up, then fall back,then go up again. Presently just shy of 6 million. It's no joke. It's real. If you prefer you can vote for one of the leave petitions on there and and a further fall in the £, but they haven't attracted the same numbers. What actually happens is up to Parliament now, and they are taking notice. But like leave voters different factions in Parliament have different ideas of what brexit should look like. Interesting times, but bad for my pocket as one totally dependent on the currency exchange market. That alone tells us Brexit is bad for Britain. Plenty more evidence too if you look. Why would there be an online poll for leaving? No endorsement of the referendum result is required. The Cameron Government advised it was a one-off and irrevocable. 5 Link to comment
Kalasin Jo Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, rwill said: Humans are afraid of change. The fact the EU is fighting this so hard should show why it will be good for the UK in the long run. In the long run I'll be dead, probably in the run up to that I'll now be broke. Link to comment
lincolnshire poacher Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Irishrogue said: The majority in the country voted to leave now all the moaners want to circumvent the democratic process. 6 million is less than 10% of the population. It is a sad fact that "Those who shout loudest are heard first" and one might assume that the 6 million are made up in large part by people from other countries or Corben and his communist friends. Have a second referendum when people know the truth of the effects of leaving the EU as opposed to lies on the side of Boorish's bus and a different result will be seen. For your information. Corbyn and his "communist" friends were mainly '"leavers", Tory boy. 1 1 Link to comment
Popular Post Rally123 Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 3/26/2019 at 9:38 PM, Kalasin Jo said: by the dramatic fall in £ sterling on the money markets since June 2016. No different to the Pound devaluing from 75 Baht to the Pound since 2005 ish . Was Brexit to blame? NO. Get over it Remoaner. 4 1 Link to comment
Popular Post allanos Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, lincolnshire poacher said: Have a second referendum when people know the truth of the effects of leaving the EU as opposed to lies on the side of Boorish's bus and a different result will be seen. For your information. Corbyn and his "communist" friends were mainly '"leavers", Tory boy. There is a widely held "remoaner" view that the British "Leave" voter had no idea about what they were voting for because they were stupid, or uneducated, or elderly, but not "switched on" and in the know, like the remain camp. You have now endorsed this concept, in that you believe that a bus painted with a sign which says "350 million pounds extra to the NHS, each week" was soooooo convincing to those stupid voters that, ignoring everything else, the overwhelming majority of them were taken in, and supported Brexit, and the clever remain voters had no way to counter it. Your argument really defies logic, which is part of the problem which the remainers still have; they don't believe in gravity. 4 Link to comment
brokenbone Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 in case i want to profit on the pound drop, but still live in EU for visa purposes and hospital cost, and a good climate, will cadiz in south spain be part of EU ? Link to comment
Popular Post jesimps Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 Doesn't matter what I think of Brexit, the benefit or otherwise now is irrelevant. What is important is that democracy is under threat when parliament isn't willing to carry out the mandate of the people and that is to leave the EU, with or without a so-called deal. I'm suffering from the lousy exchange rate, but there's no way I'll sign this treacherous petition. I'd rather beg on the streets. If you post one calling for most of our MPs to be locked up for dereliction of duty, I'll sign that. 5 3 Link to comment
Kalasin Jo Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 4 hours ago, p414 said: My nationality. I am not a european.... no matter what the cost. Who has taken your nationality away? I believe only you can do that, and it costs to do so! Link to comment
Kalasin Jo Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Burma Bill said: As a Brit who voted "no" to joining the Common Market back in the early 1970's, I am still anti EU and will not sign this petition. A democratic vote has already been decided!! Ah! Your choice. Your forum gives us a clue. Link to comment
jesimps Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Kalasin Jo said: The EU has only done what it could in view of May's red lines. There is a deal, but nobody in the UK wants it. Because of the (non-existant) Irish border problem, it keeps us in the customs union until the EU say that we can leave (never). 1 Link to comment
lincolnshire poacher Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, SheungWan said: I'd give them Newcastle. And their mates in Sunderland 2 Link to comment
Kalasin Jo Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Thingamabob said: No way. I respect the result of the referendum whatever the personal cost. Your choice . Lucky you can afford to. Link to comment
Kalasin Jo Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 9 hours ago, bert bloggs said: well ok all the other votes from around the world then non British I even know a Thai who signed for a laugh . ,that better? oh and the ones that vote dozens of times , it is a farce . A Thai? Well they wouldn't like it if we interfered in their politics would they? Oh no. Proudly independent with a poor record on democracy. How many military take overs in how many decades? Link to comment
Popular Post jesimps Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 31 minutes ago, Kalasin Jo said: Quite, after over 2 years. Leavers still don't know what they want. 2 weeks to go. Ridiculous statement and total lies. Leavers DO know what they want and have done since before the referendum, it's parliament that refuses to carry out the wishes of the of the 17.4 million people who voted that way and were the majority in the people's vote. 4 1 Link to comment
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