30 minutes ago, scorecard said:

I wonder who the regime is now more afraid of; the red mob or the very successful new FF folks?

 

Judging from the Thai news, they are terrified of Future Forward.  According to the commentators, their leader is corrupt, hates Thailand, has engaged in dubious business transactions AND is not sufficiently loyal to a certain institution!

 

He must have them really worried, as they are pulling out all the stops going after him.  The most recent story I heard is that he will be banned from politics for 20 years, or possibly exiled.

21 minutes ago, otherstuff1957 said:

 

Judging from the Thai news, they are terrified of Future Forward.  According to the commentators, their leader is corrupt, hates Thailand, has engaged in dubious business transactions AND is not sufficiently loyal to a certain institution!

 

He must have them really worried, as they are pulling out all the stops going after him.  The most recent story I heard is that he will be banned from politics for 20 years, or possibly exiled.

They are in a no-win situation as far as Future Forward are concerned.

Leave them alone and as more young people get the vote, the more popular they become. There is always a chance that political inexperience can damage FF, but their supporters will likely give them the benefit of the doubt.

Alternatively, if the military use draconian measures to nullify FF they could make martyrs of their leadership and unlock rage from their supporters. This will manifest itself on university campuses accross the nation and in the streets of Bangkok at symbolic rallying points.

Edited March 29, 20197 yr by champers

31 minutes ago, otherstuff1957 said:

 

Judging from the Thai news, they are terrified of Future Forward.  According to the commentators, their leader is corrupt, hates Thailand, has engaged in dubious business transactions AND is not sufficiently loyal to a certain institution!

 

He must have them really worried, as they are pulling out all the stops going after him.  The most recent story I heard is that he will be banned from politics for 20 years, or possibly exiled.

"The most recent story I heard is that he will be banned from politics for 20 years, or possibly exiled."

 

Please share more on this. What's the source?

 

 

 

 

33 minutes ago, otherstuff1957 said:

 

Judging from the Thai news, they are terrified of Future Forward.  According to the commentators, their leader is corrupt, hates Thailand, has engaged in dubious business transactions AND is not sufficiently loyal to a certain institution!

 

He must have them really worried, as they are pulling out all the stops going after him.  The most recent story I heard is that he will be banned from politics for 20 years, or possibly exiled.

 

What commentators?

 

The most recent story I heard is that he will be banned from politics for 20 years, or possibly exiled. Who said this?

 

 

 

58 minutes ago, pornprong said:

I wonder what the TV junta huggers are going to do when Thai politics becomes a battle between 2 progressive parties (Pheu Thai and Future Forward) and the fascist are relegated to history's dustbin.

 

IMHO:

 

FF, yes progressive.

 

PT, not progressive.

 

Now go right ahead with your junta hugger comments, i'll be disappointed if you don't.

 

3 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

What commentators?

 

The most recent story I heard is that he will be banned from politics for 20 years, or possibly exiled. Who said this?

 

 

 

My wife was listening to someone on her phone, so it could have been TV, Radio or Facebook originally.  I don't know who it was or how much credibility he has.

 

My wife and I don't agree about Thai politics, so I never discuss or encourage political discussions at home.

6 hours ago, Khaeng Mak said:

For the life of me I cannot see how all of this will not end in violence.

I have been thinking the same thing.

Only one party will benefit from violence,giving them a reason to stay put.All they have to do is wait.

Surely there must be someone with a calculator on their watch that's not deceased umm but who???? 

17 hours ago, JaiDeeMakh said:

No single party can claim a victory. Phalang Pracharat announcing they won and have the right to lead the country is nonsense! 38.2 million voted, and 29.8 voted ANYONE but Phalang Pracharat should be in power.

The only way is a coalition!

P.S 2,130,327 Invalid ballots...Amazing Thailand

no less amazing than what's going on in the UK. Where the Prime Minister is trying to get the support of the DUP a thoroughly disreputable, racist party , who represent only a, very small proportion of Northern Ireland voters.

27 minutes ago, otherstuff1957 said:

My wife was listening to someone on her phone, so it could have been TV, Radio or Facebook originally.  I don't know who it was or how much credibility he has.

 

My wife and I don't agree about Thai politics, so I never discuss or encourage political discussions at home.

In other words your comments are as vague as the current Chiang Mai air.

 

 

33 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

IMHO:

 

FF, yes progressive.

 

PT, not progressive.

 

Now go right ahead with your junta hugger comments, i'll be disappointed if you don't.

 

Clearly you guys want to fall in behind FF as if that somehow proves that your embracing of the dictatorship(s) was nothing other than a consequence of your revulsion of Thaksin as opposed to your finding comfort and familiarity with authoritarianism.

 

Anyone with any progressive tendencies is never going to support coups, be they military or judicial, nor are they going to support the unelected and unaccountable regimes they subsequently subject a society to.

 

All, repeat all, the TV junta huggers are nothing more than extremist conservatives (read self loathing fascists of varying degrees).

 

FF opposes all that you guys believe in, you'll find no comfort there.

34 minutes ago, pornprong said:

Clearly you guys want to fall in behind FF as if that somehow proves that your embracing of the dictatorship(s) was nothing other than a consequence of your revulsion of Thaksin as opposed to your finding comfort and familiarity with authoritarianism.

 

Anyone with any progressive tendencies is never going to support coups, be they military or judicial, nor are they going to support the unelected and unaccountable regimes they subsequently subject a society to.

 

All, repeat all, the TV junta huggers are nothing more than extremist conservatives (read self loathing fascists of varying degrees).

 

FF opposes all that you guys believe in, you'll find no comfort there.

 

I disagree with many of your points which you deliberately attempt to wind into a case to criticize the 'junta huggers'. 

 

"your embracing of the dictatorship(s) ..." It's been said many times by others and myself that some folks saw a need to urgently stop the paymaster dictatorship (repeat dictatorship) before it got any more authoritarian (repeat authoritarian). Note the key words: paymaster, dictatorship, authoritarian. 

 

Since the coup I (and others) have on many occasions criticized the junta on many fronts but of course you and others deliberately ignore that point. As at today and for several years I absolutely agree they are way out of control, lost any proper focus, operating in chaos and with inappropriate claims and morals even, and achieving nothing that could be called progress.

 

I couldn't agree more that the military needs to be massively reduced and brought back into a more appropriate role.

 

I confirm I have no time for thaksin, that doesn't (automatically as you seem to claim) that I unreservedly (as you seem to be saying) embrace the junta / authoritarianism. 

 

Progress is of course very highly desirable and this country desperately needs progress on many fronts. Reality is of course that progress in any nation / society will have some bumps.

 

I say again I don't see the PT mob as progressive. what have they really achieved in 12 years or so. Yes I know the 30Baht health scheme which is wonderful (but let's not totally forget it was proposed as a policy by the dems just before an election, the dems didn't get into government and the paymasters mob went ahead and implemented it, which is of course to be praised).

 

Yes I do support the FF party and I'm certainly impressed at the votes and seats they have just won.

 

I support them because of their policies which are sorely needed, the new faces they have brought to the table, with a number of highly credible young people. Yes they need to keep an even keel, so does any party.

 

Perhaps even more to the point, Thailand desperately / very urgently needs massive visible change which actually seen and felt in positive impact on peoples' lives, and change on many fronts, the FF people are the only party I see as capable of / strongly desiring to make such  real change.  

3 hours ago, pornprong said:

I wonder what the TV junta huggers are going to do when Thai politics becomes a battle between 2 progressive parties (Pheu Thai and Future Forward) and the fascist are relegated to history's dustbin.

They will move to Myanmar or another communist country/state and suck up to the leaders there