4 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Typical biased Reuters. What an earth has this guy got to do with the Brexit march. Nothing. So Reuters continue to try and link far right people with brexiteers and show just how biased they are as a news organisation when it comes to the EU and referendum.

They are as bad as the independent and guardian newspapers.

Really? And when Tom Watson, who is hardly a die-hard remainer, spoke at the much larger remainer march last week, the press reported it too. Suck it up.

 

The sad fact about Brexit is that there is not only one brand but about 10. The trouble is that one brand does not want to give into the other brand. The result is that you will get either a soft brexit, yet another referendum (if parliament cannot get a majority around something) or possibly a retraction of article 50.

 

The other sad fact about brexit is that while many are what one might call culturally in favour of brexit (they might want more independence and sovereignity for the country and might not want immigrants and dislike certain Europeans, such as the French), they realise that the company they work for is going to fold if there is a hard brexit and it may not go well if there is even a soft brexit. The small majority among the public in favour of brexit in 2016 has gone the other way.

Excellent stuff...then 1st time buyers have a better chance of putting their head in the noose for 25/30 years??

You'd better put your house on it then, as it won't be worth much if the UK crashes out with no deal.

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Let me guess: you read the Guardian, believe in the new Green Deal, embrace multiculturalism and diversity, feel guilty about your white privilege, and call everyone who disagrees with your "progressive" ideology racists, bigots, islamophobes, transphobes, homophobes, blah blah blah.
 
Oh, and of course you voted Remain.

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Germany is shi€€€ng themselves as they look forward to being the eu's atm

You are talking about the MPs who are blocking the exit not the people. As for triggering article 50 yes what a glorious day it was.
If leaving without a deal will be painful I will take that. better than to be a servant of the EU. I am sure that it will be painful for some EU countries too.

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17 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Let me guess: you read the Guardian, believe in the new Green Deal, embrace multiculturalism and diversity, feel guilty about your white privilege, and call everyone who disagrees with your "progressive" ideology racists, bigots, islamophobes, transphobes, homophobes, blah blah blah.

 

Oh, and of course you voted Remain.

Seems like you supported Brexit given the fact you have a proclivity to guessing, rather than understand economic wisdom.

2 hours ago, Topdoc said:

Oh look, the former Bank of England Boss Mervyn King says:

"No Deal Brexit Is the Answer, Project Fear Is a Myth"

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/03/29/fmr-bank-england-boss-mervyn-king-no-deal-brexit-is-answer-project-fear-is-myth/

 

Yeah right Breitbart!

55 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

You just don't get it do you? It's the UK that wants to leave the EU and is responsible for whatever mess that happens. Blame the UK government.

 

As far as I am concerned the EU has every right to protect their own interests.

The best way to do that would be to ensure we leave on Apr 12th without an umbilical chord.

20 minutes ago, Proboscis said:

Really? And when Tom Watson, who is hardly a die-hard remainer, spoke at the much larger remainer march last week, the press reported it too. Suck it up.

 

The sad fact about Brexit is that there is not only one brand but about 10. The trouble is that one brand does not want to give into the other brand. The result is that you will get either a soft brexit, yet another referendum (if parliament cannot get a majority around something) or possibly a retraction of article 50.

 

The other sad fact about brexit is that while many are what one might call culturally in favour of brexit (they might want more independence and sovereignity for the country and might not want immigrants and dislike certain Europeans, such as the French), they realise that the company they work for is going to fold if there is a hard brexit and it may not go well if there is even a soft brexit. The small majority among the public in favour of brexit in 2016 has gone the other way.

I wonder are you British.

7 minutes ago, mrmicbkktxl said:

Yeah right Breitbart!

I suppose the former Bank of England who was very successful in his job, wouldn't know that much, as the countries leading economist. I am being facetious by the way.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mervyn-king-calls-for-no-deal-brexit-after-six-months-of-preparation-8q8q9c37m

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/nils-pratley-on-finance/2018/dec/04/mervyn-king-call-for-no-deal-brexit-fails-to-offer-solutions

12 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:

Seems like you supported Brexit given the fact you have a proclivity to guessing, rather than understand economic wisdom.

Now who's guessing?

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

Leave will easily win another referendum. The bookies are seldom wrong.

Like last time you mean.????

2 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

Absolute. NI and Scotland should stay in the EU as the majority have vote. Accordingly, the boundaries should be drawn. Wales and England can then cook their own Independence soup.

I suppose you might as well say London too, as they voted remain. Luckily it was a collective vote as the UK and not individual countries or counties.

 

I assume if remain won you, would have said the same that all leave areas can leave the EU too. Have a check and see which ones did.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36616028

4 hours ago, geoffbezoz said:

The dinosaur remmnents who are still delusionally thinking the British Empire will return are in their death throes. Next week will see a vote in parliament given 2 choices I suspect.  Leave without any agreement ( already rejected previously) or hold another referendum.   Of course the mainly racist retards who still clamor that the past will return will hope that their MP votes for the former again.   However given that choice no doubt it will go the way of another referendum. After all the sick government of Teresa May kept giving themselves repeated opportunities of another vote so what's good for the goose is good for the Gander.

 

But generally the future is bright for the more sensible , socially conscious UK voter once a second referendum goes ahead, because simply put,  those racists and other loonies that voted to leave the EU pale into insignificance compared to the racists and loonies who voted for Trump and people elsewhere can  look to see exactly where it has got them !  The advantage is that the UK electorate will get another chance, this time being fully informed of the stupidity of leaving the EU, rather than the lies which were peddled back in 2016.

Have you read the Lisbon Treaty ??I don't think so.

3 minutes ago, Wullie Mercer said:

Have you read the Lisbon Treaty ??I don't think so.

No but my legal advisors have. What is it you are unsure of ?

35 minutes ago, evadgib said:

The best way to do that would be to ensure we leave on Apr 12th without an umbilical chord.

I thought the best way to prove these things was to leave yesterday.

 

Or is this a Brexiteer going for second best again?!

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I thought the best way to prove these things was to leave yesterday.

 

Or is this a Brexiteer going for second best again?!

Thousands of bad informed people led by some populists.

 

5 hours ago, geoffbezoz said:

The dinosaur remmnents who are still delusionally thinking the British Empire will return are in their death throes. Next week will see a vote in parliament given 2 choices I suspect.  Leave without any agreement ( already rejected previously) or hold another referendum.   Of course the mainly racist retards who still clamor that the past will return will hope that their MP votes for the former again.   However given that choice no doubt it will go the way of another referendum. After all the sick government of Teresa May kept giving themselves repeated opportunities of another vote so what's good for the goose is good for the Gander.

 

But generally the future is bright for the more sensible , socially conscious UK voter once a second referendum goes ahead, because simply put,  those racists and other loonies that voted to leave the EU pale into insignificance compared to the racists and loonies who voted for Trump and people elsewhere can  look to see exactly where it has got them !  The advantage is that the UK electorate will get another chance, this time being fully informed of the stupidity of leaving the EU, rather than the lies which were peddled back in 2016.

Why not best of 3 ...you think that is DEMOCRACY??

Exactly what do you have against populists??
Are you a mega rich globalist?
Did you want H Clinton to beat Donald Trump 3 years ago?
Are you or any of your family eu employees.
Are you happy that your inglorious eu never condult it's citizens re WHAT THEY WANT GOING FORWARD??

Thousands of bad informed people led by some populists.
 

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6 minutes ago, Dice Man said:

Why not best of 3 ...you think that is DEMOCRACY??

Why not ? it is good enough to be undemocratic to subvert parliamentary precedence for May to continually bring her deal to the vote. 3 now and by all accounts she may make it 4 next week if the Speaker allows. As I said in an earlier post "what's good for the goose is good for the gander". But there again that will be poo pood by the hypocritical attitude of most Brexit suppporters.

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7 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Exactly what do you have against populists??
Are you a mega rich globalist?
Did you want H Clinton to beat Donald Trump 3 years ago?
Are you or any of your family eu employees.
Are you happy that your inglorious eu never condult it's citizens re WHAT THEY WANT GOING FORWARD??

 

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The Brexit Leave campaign was funded by tax shy Billionaires, Multimillionaires and hedge fund managers (plus a large amount of unexplained foreign sourced money).

 

Amongst Brexit backers the likes of Dyson with his ‘global’ manufacturing and ‘global’ tax evasion.

 

Only last week the EU fined Google over a €Billion for breaching EU anti trust laws (laws that protect customers against abusive market rigging by big ‘global’ businesses).

 

But please do trot out your canned ‘globalism/ist’

 

You are being played by a handful of the hyper wealthy, you may be happy to go along with their con, but please don’t expect the rest of us to be so easily taken in by conmen spouting populist promises they have no intention, or indeed means, to ever keep.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Brexit Leave campaign was funded by tax shy Billionaires, Multimillionaires and hedge fund managers (plus a large amount of unexplained foreign sourced money).

 

Amongst Brexit backers the likes of Dyson with his ‘global’ manufacturing and ‘global’ tax evasion.

 

Only last week the EU fined Google over a €Billion for breaching EU anti trust laws (laws that protect customers against abusive market rigging by big ‘global’ businesses).

 

But please do trot out your canned ‘globalism/ist’

 

You are being played by a handful of the hyper wealthy, you may be happy to go along with their con, but please don’t expect the rest of us to be so easily taken in by conmen spouting populist promises they have no intention, or indeed means, to ever keep.

Agreed and as we all now the ardent Bexiteer Dyson has now moved his manufacturing business to Singapore and the UK's richest man Jim Radcliff, similarly another Brexit supporter has just become domiciled in Monaco. Yes the UK need patriots like that, not. A little worried perhaps that the EU, despite the UK's resistant, is cracking down hard on tax avoidance schemes by the mega rich.

1 hour ago, Krataiboy said:

Let me guess: you read the Guardian, believe in the new Green Deal, embrace multiculturalism and diversity, feel guilty about your white privilege, and call everyone who disagrees with your "progressive" ideology racists, bigots, islamophobes, transphobes, homophobes, blah blah blah.

 

Oh, and of course you voted Remain.

Far too much commonality among Remainers and the Chattering Classes. It's their unjustified disdain for all others that is their biggest bigotry, followed by attempts to censor any voices of dissent and insults to non-believers and Leavers. 

30 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Thousands of bad informed people led by some populists.

 

Having the cake, eating it and Brussels paying for..

2 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:

Agreed and as we all now the ardent Bexiteer Dyson has now moved his manufacturing business to Singapore and the UK's richest man Jim Radcliff, similarly another Brexit supporter has just become domiciled in Monaco. Yes the UK need patriots like that, not. A little worried perhaps that the EU, despite the UK's resistant, is cracking down hard on tax avoidance schemes by the mega rich.

Well , the reality about Dyson is that just TWO Dyson employees moved to Singapore and that is to concentrate on Asia growing markets and Dyson will continue to invest in their UK factories and nothing in the UK will be closing down, infact , they plan to expand their UK factories 

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Well , the reality about Dyson is that just TWO Dyson employees moved to Singapore and that is to concentrate on Asia growing markets and Dyson will continue to invest in their UK factories and nothing in the UK will be closing down, infact , they plan to expand their UK factories 

The proof will be in 2 years time. The manufacturing industry will now employ many in Singapore, not the UK. So as clearly you are a supporter of the mega rich and tax avoidance schemes, you yourself must by definition be anti European ?

2 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Far too much commonality among Remainers and the Chattering Classes. It's their unjustified disdain for all others that is their biggest bigotry, followed by attempts to censor any voices of dissent and insults to non-believers and Leavers. 

Agreed. Also, they tend to be fixated on the economics of Brexit, which obviously matter but were not the primary driving force behind the Leave vote. This is acknowledged by the former Governor of the Bank of England, Mervyn King, in (of all places) today's Sun, where he offers his own solution to the problem of where to go next.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8752696/brexit-economy-freedom-mervyn-king-opinion/

 

Of course, because it's in one of the popular tabloid papers (as opposed to unpopular chattering class broadsheets such as the socialist Guardian and Independent) no remainers are likely to have even seen it, let alone read it!

3 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:

The proof will be in 2 years time. The manufacturing industry will now employ many in Singapore, not the UK. So as clearly you are a supporter of the mega rich and tax avoidance schemes, you yourself must by definition be anti European ?

Dyson already has factories in Asia and its a Worldwide brand/Company .

(And do stop asking/suggesting that Im a supporter of the mega rich /tax avoiders and Anti European as this thread isnt about me )

To geoffbezoz

Re your "racist retards" bit..just as well Brexiteers are not grasses or the Mods would maybe put you in the sin bin.

Have you read the Lisbon Treaty ??I don't think so.

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