Thailand cave: Boys 'sedated with ketamine' during rescue

[rooster59]

Thailand cave: Boys 'sedated with ketamine' during rescue

By Lucia Binding, news reporter

 

Boys from the under-16 soccer team were sedated with ketamine during the rescue from a cave

 

The 12 boys who were rescued from a cave in Thailand had to be sedated with the horse tranquilliser ketamine, according to a medical report.

 

The Wild Boars football team and their coach became trapped inside a cave complex after a training session when a rainy season downpour flooded the tunnels in June last year.

 

After 18 days, the boys were saved in a huge rescue operation involving specialist divers and Thai Navy SEALs.

 

Full story: https://news.sky.com/story/thailand-cave-boys-sedated-with-ketamine-during-rescue-11684812

 

Sky News: 2019-04-06

 

 

 

[lust]

But this has been speculated before the rescue, and has already been documented and reported on many times.

 

I’m not even sure what the story is about to be honest.

[sammieuk1]

They will all now face 40 years in prison cell to make them feel at home ????

[cyril sneer]

why do they still label it a horse tranquilliser when it's always been used medically on people for various problems

[ThaiBunny]

What exactly did the Thai Navy Seals do?

[SammyT]

This has been reported on for months. 

 

Other "breaking news" topics TVF will cover today - the sun rose in the east, its smoky in Chiang Mai, and Pattayas beach sucks

[kotsak]

16 minutes ago, lust said:

But this has been speculated before the rescue, and has already been documented and reported on many times.

 

I’m not even sure what the story is about to be honest.

Still trying to milk the cow as much they can, my guess.

[ThaiBunny]

Just now, kotsak said:

Still trying to milk the cow as much they can, my guess.

Pre-publicity for the film?

[JimmyTheMook]

Just now, ThaiBunny said:

What exactly did the Thai Navy Seals do?

Got real quick lessons in combat cave diving.

[tuktuktuk]

There’s some strange taboo about how drugs were used to save these boys. It worked. Why not celebrate it?

[Mister Fixit]

Is this news?  This was written about a lot at the time, and I think we all know by now they had to be sedated to get them out without them panicking.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Looks like it's a news story now because the report from the medical folks involved in the cave rescue was just published in the NE Journal of Medicine...

 

April 4, 2019
N Engl J Med 2019; 380:1372-1373
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMc1900831

 

Interesting that the author credits for the report include several Thai MDs, including a major general from the Army.

[faraday]

 

[bowerboy]

Highly relevant and absolutely newsworthy. 

 

This is is the first time it has been actually confirmed, the rest was speculation.

 

Also highly relevant given the shroud of secrecy the government wanted to inexplicably put around the sedative used. Completely inexplicable and truly made a big deal out of nothing.

 

Also this confirmation shines a spotlight on PDiddy who claimed many times over that a mild sedative was used. Going deep down a K Hole is far from a mild experience!!!

[PatOngo]

57 minutes ago, lust said:

But this has been speculated before the rescue, and has already been documented and reported on many times.

 

I’m not even sure what the story is about to be honest.

I have a feeling it's about foreigners plying drugs to locals. Nasty foreigners!

[Vacuum]

36 minutes ago, tuktuktuk said:

There’s some strange taboo about how drugs were used to save these boys. It worked. Why not celebrate it?

Exactly. They got the kids safely out from the cave, what does it matter how they did it?

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, lust said:

But this has been speculated before the rescue, and has already been documented and reported on many times.

 

I’m not even sure what the story is about to be honest.

Easy to speculate why........ 

[Artisi]

34 minutes ago, bowerboy said:

Highly relevant and absolutely newsworthy. 

 

This is is the first time it has been actually confirmed, the rest was speculation.

 

Also highly relevant given the shroud of secrecy the government wanted to inexplicably put around the sedative used. Completely inexplicable and truly made a big deal out of nothing.

 

Also this confirmation shines a spotlight on PDiddy who claimed many times over that a mild sedative was used. Going deep down a K Hole is far from a mild experience!!!

It was confirmed months ago by the second Aussie diver in a doco', can't vouch 100% that the drug was named but a full description of the procedure was discussed and from memory they were re-injected at one of the staging points. 

[monkfish]

Read about this in another article where more facts were provided.
Apparently Experts / Divers including Harris gave the boys Zero chance of survival and the fist two were in effect Guinea Pigs.
Ketamine was used because 1. it contracts blood vessels which prevented them getting Hypothermia and in fact it's confirmed that at least one boy was treated for hypothermia. The boys diving suits and masks were all the wrong size.
And 2. Ketamine doesn't restrict breathing.
The Boys were administered Ketamine two times during the rescue by untrained divers.
Well it was a happy Ending but could have been so much different.
 

[Classic Ray]

Stupid taboos about some medical drugs here which still restrict the use of cannabis or opium derived products for serious pain relief whilst most antibiotics are available OTC like sweeties.

 

Would have been reckless to try and rescue untrained children without tranquilising them, nothing to be ashamed of.

[bkk6060]

36 minutes ago, monkfish said:

The Boys were administered Ketamine two times during the rescue by untrained divers.
 

How do you know?

They obviously knew what they were doing.

[Sheryl]

How do you know? They obviously knew what they were doing. 

 

I think what he meant to say was by non medically trained divers. I'm sure the anesthesiologist carefully taught them how and when to do the injection and provided it to them in preset dosage.

 

It was really quite a brilliant, creative and daring approach. Few doctors would have had the nerve to try this and none would ever do so -- in a foreign country no less where they were not licensed to practice -- without a guarantee of immunity. Kudos to the Thai authorities & Australian Embassy in arranging that immunity, a highly unusual thing to do and arranged in short notice.

 

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[JimmyTheMook]

1 hour ago, bowerboy said:

 

 

Also this confirmation shines a spotlight on PDiddy who claimed many times over that a mild sedative was used. Going deep down a K Hole is far from a mild experience!!!

Brah, u had to do the Puffy reference?

 

[Maejo Man]

2 hours ago, bowerboy said:

Highly relevant and absolutely newsworthy. 

 

This is is the first time it has been actually confirmed, the rest was speculation.

 

Also highly relevant given the shroud of secrecy the government wanted to inexplicably put around the sedative used. Completely inexplicable and truly made a big deal out of nothing.

 

Also this confirmation shines a spotlight on PDiddy who claimed many times over that a mild sedative was used. Going deep down a K Hole is far from a mild experience!!!

It was confirmed in the Australian press not long after the rescue by Perth vet Craig Challen and Adelaide anaesthetist Dr Richard Harris that they used ketamine to sedate the lads.

[Mainhattencitizen]

3 hours ago, tuktuktuk said:

There’s some strange taboo about how drugs were used to save these boys. It worked. Why not celebrate it?

The Thais are still having problems with the fact that without the foreign help these kids would have never been rescued.

[Anagami]

I read in another article that later on they were sedated with religion.

[Danthai]

Does it really make any difference what they did to save the boys. The boys are alive because of Navy Seals and selfless divers. God Bless. LET IT REST!

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, Mainhattencitizen said:

The Thais are still having problems with the fact that without the foreign help these kids would have never been rescued.

No they are not, not at all.  The foreign help was widely referenced, widely lauded, they were given gifts, praise and all due credit.

 

But you go ahead and enjoy life in your little dream world where none of the above happened.

[Huayrat]

4 hours ago, ThaiBunny said:

What exactly did the Thai Navy Seals do?

Basically they were labourers..

[Artisi]

14 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

No they are not, not at all.  The foreign help was widely referenced, widely lauded, they were given gifts, praise and all due credit.

 

But you go ahead and enjoy life in your little dream world where none of the above happened.

Sure, a Bht 200 7/11 card and find your own way to the airport. Although a couple of the rescuers were taken to the airport by an obscure government official. 

Luckily in most cases, the lead guys in the rescue were well honoured by their own countries and already forgotten about in Thailand. 

But it's ok, face isn't the governing concern for most foreigners.