Police chief orders Big Joke transferred to inactive post

[NoshowJones]

On 4/6/2019 at 5:38 PM, Peterw42 said:

Can we nominate Ubonjoe, he knows more about their rules than they do.

AAAH!  But Ubon Joe does not make up his own rules. ????

[SkyNets]

The poster printer guy will lose a lot business!

[NoshowJones]

On 4/6/2019 at 5:43 PM, OJAS said:

Is that where all cops transferred to inactive posts end up? If so, then Building One looks like being in increasing danger of collapse!

I thought the cops being transferred to inactive posts were put in these wee boxes at the traffic light junctions.

[garyk]

8 minutes ago, Letseng said:

You may hope forever for the "be relaxed soon" to happen.

I doubt a few departing retirees will make Thai economy collapse. 

No, but the 100's of thousands of expats that brush off Thailand as a retirement destination in the future it will start to eat into the economy. And with a global session looming, Thailand will feel the pain, in a big way. Tourist numbers will start to fall, and expat dollars will dry up. Personally I would not invest a dime of my money in Thailand, as an expat or an investor.

[marcusarelus]

3 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Routinely transferred to an inactive post? 

He's been sacked without getting the sack is the way I see it. 

Did someone put him in a sack?  hahaha

[lamyai3]

5 minutes ago, Jim7777 said:

Yes thank you I understand defamation laws in Thailand regarding government officials lol.  I’m not new here but thanks for your input anyway.  

You're still barking up the wrong tree. 

[CMNightRider]

19 minutes ago, Letseng said:

You may hope forever for the "be relaxed soon" to happen.

I doubt a few departing retirees will make Thai economy collapse. 

The Thai economy won't collapse but there will be a lot of Thai families who will suffer because of the many retirees who are being denied their visa extensions month after month.  

 

Some appear to find amusement in this recent nonsensical goal post move and added hoops to just get a one year visa extension.  It is truly pathetic how Thai Immigration treat foreign spouses of their Thai citizens.

 

Hopefully, Big Jokes move to an inactive post had something to do with his anti-western immigration policies.  I find it incredulous any westerner would support Big Jokes recent immigration policies.

Edited April 7, 2019 by CMNightRider

[marcusarelus]

Just now, CMNightRider said:

The Thai economy won't collapse but there will be a lot of Thai families who will suffer because of the many retirees who are being denied their visa extensions month after month.  

 

Some appear to find amusement in this recent nonsensical goal post move and added hoops to just get a one year visa extension.  It is truly pathetic how Thai Immigration treat foreign spouses of their Thai citizens.

 

Hopefully, Big Jokes move to an inactive post had something to do with his anti-western immigration policies.  I find it incredulous any western would support Big Jokes recent immigration policies.

Knowing the real story I actually feel sorry for the guy and it has nothing to do with his immigration policies. 

[rabas]

10 minutes ago, attrayant said:

1 hour ago, marcusarelus said:

His transfer had nothing to do with immigration.  That is important because his transfer signals no immigration change at all. 

 

Even is that's true, a new commissioner will be appointed and will likely want to start playing with all the knobs and switches.  It's not out of the realm of possibilities that policies could change again

 

Agreed. Even if his downfall was not related to Immigration he has caused lots of confusion and extra work across the immigration department. Few at immigration are happy and I think all the senior career officers will push a new head to clean up the mess rather than make more. Predictable by Thai standards. The new head will not be there long and won't want to sit on a total mess. 

[emptypockets]

2 minutes ago, garyk said:

No, but the 100's of thousands of expats that brush off Thailand as a retirement destination in the future it will start to eat into the economy. And with a global session looming, Thailand will feel the pain, in a big way. Tourist numbers will start to fall, and expat dollars will dry up. Personally I would not invest a dime of my money in Thailand, as an expat or an investor.

What 100's of thousands. 

The last of figures showed less than a hundred thousand it thereabouts in total once the SEA workers were discounted from the total.

[bristolgeoff]

What did he do to upset the big boss

[emptypockets]

3 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Knowing the real story I actually feel sorry for the guy and it has nothing to do with his immigration policies. 

Care to share the real story with us so that the pointless speculation can end? 

[marcusarelus]

5 minutes ago, bristolgeoff said:

What did he do to upset the big boss

Google Thaivisa big joke tight lipped.  Since it is a Thaivisa link I think OK to share it. 

Edited April 7, 2019 by marcusarelus

[NoshowJones]

On 4/6/2019 at 6:41 PM, Puchaiyank said:

He should be leary if he reaches the 20th floor and half dozen lady boys are waiting to show him a shortcut down... ????

 

On 4/6/2019 at 6:41 PM, Puchaiyank said:

He should be leary if he reaches the 20th floor and half dozen lady boys are waiting to show him a shortcut down... ????

Never thought I'd be happy about ladyboys, but there you go.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

So it looks like, no 2nd day follow-up stories in the local media on the fate of BJ with additional details or comment from the man himself....

 

To me, the eerie official silence about that, with everyone unavailable for comment on Saturday, tends to suggest that what the outside Thailand sources have been reporting is likely the truth.

 

[garyk]

5 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

What 100's of thousands. 

The last of figures showed less than a hundred thousand it thereabouts in total once the SEA workers were discounted from the total.

This is a good example of not knowing the facts IMO. The developing nations and others are in the mist of a baby boom retirement explosion. Countries that are smart are catering to the up coming onslaught of retirees bringing in their dollars, Thailand is doing just the opposite. Not only that but the GDP of Thailand relies on the tourists dollars. Tourists are later expats. Extremly poor judgment on the part of the Thai government. And contrary to popular belief, wealth is in mining the masses not the rich. Middle class is what you want, not the rich so much. And, 1200-2000 dollars a month in Thailand is upper middle class. The immigration rules just shut down that cash cow..

[GeorgeCross]

50 minutes ago, Jim7777 said:

I’m done this is like a few hours of my life that I’ll never get back in this discussion.  

 

i feel the same, take a break.. 

[NoshowJones]

23 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said:

One staying for years here with back to back TVs is not a tourist. If you are old enough, get a retirement non-o or extension, otherwise buy a elite visa. That's it.

You are the kind of expat most of us do not want here. Only think of yourself and never mind anyone else.

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, fforest1 said:

they’re not about to change it again when they are still in the middle of adjusting to the current changes.  

 

LOL......Dont make me laugh....They have been constantly changing immigration rule for a few years now.....So why would they care about slowing down now?.....

 

There have been many bad changes to immigration rules.....The sooner things change the better....

Nothing will ever change for the better, this is Thailand.

[soalbundy]

On 4/6/2019 at 5:12 PM, Artisi said:

"No reason has yet been given for the transfer."  unlikely it will ever be given, however, don't let that get in the way of speculation....  let me start the ball rolling - toes trodden-on.

plus a bit of jealousy thrown in

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, fforest1 said:

Actually you dont know jack about why he was transferred and neither does any one else...

 

Would it not be great if he was let go because they have big plans to loosen immigration policy...  

Thailand loosening immigration policy 

Edited April 7, 2019 by possum1931

[JustAnotherHun]

9 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

You are the kind of expat most of us do not want here. Only think of yourself and never mind anyone else.

So you pretend to speak for "most of us"? On what base?

But even if: I prefer playing by the rules and be a welcomed guest without problems here instead of whimpering around and complaining about the bad bad IOs.

I'm sorry for those living here since many years and now have problems to stay. But it's not their country, it is the thai's. They make the rules here.

And by the way: If you and "most of us" don't want me here, who cares as long as the Thais do.

[NoshowJones]

1 minute ago, JustAnotherHun said:

So you pretend to speak for "most of us"? On what base?

But even if: I prefer playing by the rules and be a welcomed guest without problems here instead of whimpering around and complaining about the bad bad IOs.

I'm sorry for those living here since many years and now have problems to stay. But it's not their country, it is the thai's. They make the rules here.

And by the way: If you and "most of us" don't want me here, who cares as long as the Thais do.

No ifs about it pal, your username says it all. Just watch the "likes" piling up. ????

[malagateddy]

The UK..AND I AM A BRIT

Which country are you talking about?

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[akirasan]

39 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

So it looks like, no 2nd day follow-up stories in the local media on the fate of BJ with additional details or comment from the man himself....

 

To me, the eerie official silence about that, with everyone unavailable for comment on Saturday, tends to suggest that what the outside Thailand sources have been reporting is likely the truth.

 

Yep, that's the strangest thing about this..the absolute silence and lack of follow up.

 

I did read that one journalist had been trying to call his phone for 2 hours but there was no answer.

 

There's been speculation in Thai media today that he was arranging colleagues transfers for under the table payments but no additional official information has been released.

Edited April 7, 2019 by akirasan

[KiChakayan]

6 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

And by the way: If you and "most of us" don't want me here, who cares as long as the Thais do.

Right, as long as my wife and kids do..

[Golden Triangle]

5 hours ago, Jim7777 said:

Something is happening he’s being transferred to his next assignment just like they do every year.  Police and military officers at his level are usually transferred to their next assignments within a year or two at the most.  Sometimes less than a year depending on the internal politics.  In this case he is being transferred a little early and it might have something to do with the election or just internal politics because the election results are still being disputed and it’s supposed to be decided on May 6th I believe as far as who the Prime Minister will be and which Party will assume power if that even changes at all.  I would expect to see a lot of personnel changes in the Thai government over the next month.  

 

His transfer really is not as big a deal as people think it is I’ve lost count of how many Immigration Chiefs have come and gone since I first got here.  Seems like every year I’m reading about a new Immigration Chief promising how tough he’s going to be on illegal aliens and foreign criminals.  The only difference is that this guy was more famous than previous Immigration Chiefs which makes it this so called “big news story”.  Police and other high and low level military officers are routinely transferred to their next assignments all the time usually between 1 and 2 years at the most and quite often less time then that depending on the internal politics.  

 

At his level this could quite possibly have something to do with the election usually around election time is when high level government officials start getting transferred around the most but the police and their military officers are kind of in the same category here in Thailand.  It could just be a routine transfer it happens here all the time about once a year not everything is a vast government conspiracy.  Although obviously something fishy is going on with the undecided election and it’s possible that this could be a result of that and it probably is.  

 

But regardless these high and low level police and military officers are routinely transferred to their next assignments all the time.  I mean did everyone really think he was going to be in that position forever?  Obviously not unless you haven’t been paying attention for the last 5 years at least.  

 

One thing I haven’t thought about till now is the election dispute this could be a result of that because he is being transferred at least 5 months early maybe more.  Now maybe this comment might be speculation like everyone else is doing which is speculating but the finalized election results are supposed to be decided in less than a month around early May so it’s possible that this early transfer could be a sign that a new Prime Minister might be in coming.  That’s just speculating but it’s very possible.  So I wonder how many other Thai government agency officials particularly high level Police and military Generals are also going to be transferred around.  In fact is the Immigration Chief the first and only one so far or have there been others?  Consider that.  And consider the fact that Thailand is currently in a political crisis because of the disputed election.  

 

Another possibility as to why he’s being transferred early is that he is kind of what’s referred to in the military as a “spot-lighter” in other words he likes attention look at me and look at what I’m doing, I’m better than everyone else.  That doesn’t necessarily make him a bad officer but that’s not a quality that military Commanders like very much in fact they hate it and we all know who’s currently running the government.  

 

Bottom line it might not be a routine transfer or maybe it was, but him being transferred is not really a big deal it would have happened eventually within at least the next year as it normally does.  It’s inevitable that high and low level police and military officers are routinely transferred to their next assignments all the time, especially during election times.  Regardless of the why it’s just part of the process routine or not especially during this political climate.  I’m sure others will be transferred as well if not already.  I’m trying to recall how many Immigration Chiefs we’ve had over the past 5 years but I remember over the past years at least once a year reading about the new Chief of Immigration, I haven’t really kept up with it because I don’t really care but I do know that there’s been more than just a few in the past 5 years.  But of course every time Surachat takes a pee it’s big news because he’s made such a name for himself because of his own ambition.  The last Immigration Chief never got this much attention but Surachat has been getting A TON of news media attention even before he was appointed as the head of immigration.  So honestly it’s just a good news story because of his fame if it was anyone else the immigration rules would still be the same the same changes would have still been made and this would not be a big story about the Immigration Chief getting reassigned so what.  Surachat just became the face of a lot of things that he didn’t control although he did like to spotlight himself a lot which also may have had something to do with his early transfer.  

 

Of course it’s possible that maybe he got caught up in some scandal and maybe they are trying to sweep it under the rug because he had the honest cop reputation but that’s just speculation.  It’s probably got something to do with the election because he is being transferred pretty early and Thailand is in political turmoil right now.  So over the next month there’s probably going to be a lot of personnel changes in the Thai government.  

 

 

Christ alive mate, you know how to drivel on and repeat yourself ad infinitum, give it a rest please.

 

If he were being moved he would have been moved and that would have been announced, he has been put into an inactive post (Sin Bin) cos he done somebody wrong, just how long have you not been living here ?

[zydeco]

3 hours ago, car720 said:

does anyone know what is on the 20th floor?

“You asked me once,' said O'Brien, 'what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.”

[DrTuner]

51 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Google Thaivisa big joke tight lipped.  Since it is a Thaivisa link I think OK to share it. 

Ah. Thanks.

[ICELANDMAN]

3 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

The UK..AND I AM A BRIT

 

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You talk about Brexit, yes is a "big joke" democracy in England at present, I grant you