White House to Democrats seeking Trump tax returns - 'Never'

[bristolboy]

11 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Unless he committed a tax crime you aren't going to see it and there is no advantage for him to make it public. So I guess you can cry all you want but unless the IRS has a charge against him it won't matter.

Untrue. The House Committee can vote to release it. The IRS has no say in that.

[bristolboy]

13 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I'd be shocked if his returns were more scandalous than Amazon's or GE's. I think that's why he gives them such a hard time. He's jealous about all they can get away with.

 

 

 

 

GE & Amazon are corporations. Trump is an individual.

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Untrue. The House Committee can vote to release it. The IRS has no say in that.

 

Good luck with that.

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Good luck with that.

Because you believe that the Republicans still control the House?

[Cryingdick]

Just now, bristolboy said:

Because you believe that the Republicans still control the House?

 

This is the point I don't bother with you. 

[lannarebirth]

10 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

GE & Amazon are corporations. Trump is an individual.

I'll bet that's not his theory as presented in his taxes. I'd be willing to bet a great deal of his personal overhead is expensed to his various corporations which come under the umbrella of The Trump Organization. In his mind, and frankly the way he's marketed for decades, is that he is selling himself as a brand.

 

I'm surprised one of his boys hasn't come up with a Trump branded AR-15 yet.

 

 

 

[lannarebirth]

16 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Because you believe that the Republicans still control the House?

Does Lois Lerner still hold sway at the IRS? Haven't seen her like since J. Edgar Hoover. If she's still there the Democrats might have a shot.

 

 

 

[Skeptic7]

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Presidents are supposed to be servants of all the people. Not only their base. This deplorable irredeemable president thinks all the people are his servant and works very hard to pander to and entertain his base which is not the same thing as serving them. This tax thing the same. Of course he's hiding stuff.

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And what is really stoopid is his incredibly gullible evangelical Christian base. He is, without question, the least Christian candidate possible for them. But then again...if anyone is evangelical about any religion (aka superstition), then gullibility is given. 

[bristolboy]

50 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

This is the point I don't bother with you. 

In other words, you've got nothing.

[bristolboy]

48 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

Does Lois Lerner still hold sway at the IRS? Haven't seen her like since J. Edgar Hoover. If she's still there the Democrats might have a shot.

 

 

 

I guess when you've got nothing relevant to produce , you can always resort to  the "non-scandals" of the Obama administration. Or is it that you don't understand the relevant law in this case?

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

In other words, you've got nothing.

 

You are the one blathering about a nothing burger. I never claimed to have anything. I am not on a witch hunt.

[bristolboy]

4 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

You are the one blathering about a nothing burger. I never claimed to have anything. I am not on a witch hunt.

But you don't seem to understand the law governing this situation.

[Cryingdick]

Just now, bristolboy said:

But you don't seem to understand the law governing this situation.

 

Time will tell. Trump will most likely Jussie his way out of this. I think we are once again at the conclusion of useful discourse. 

[Skeptic7]

5 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

You are the one blathering about a nothing burger. I never claimed to have anything. I am not on a witch hunt.

No...you're just on the back of his broom!

[bristolboy]

Just now, Cryingdick said:

 

Time will tell. Trump will most likely Jussie his way out of this. I think we are once again at the conclusion of useful discourse. 

Jussie?  It's not even an analagous situation. Another nonsensical deflection.

[lannarebirth]

14 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

I guess when you've got nothing relevant to produce , you can always resort to  the "non-scandals" of the Obama administration. Or is it that you don't understand the relevant law in this case?

I do understand the law. A law that was written prior to subsequent laws that give taxpayers certain rights of confidentiality. Looks like a court battle ahead.

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, lannarebirth said:

I do understand the law. A law that was written prior to subsequent laws that give taxpayers certain rights of confidentiality. Looks like a court battle ahead.

Those laws give taxpayers certain right in relations to dealing with the IRS. Nothing in there at all that would negate Congress' power under law to request tax returns.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, bristolboy said:

Those laws give taxpayers certain right in relations to dealing with the IRS. Nothing in there at all that would negate Congress' power under law to request tax returns.

 

You have no idea what you are on about.

[lannarebirth]

1 minute ago, bristolboy said:

Those laws give taxpayers certain right in relations to dealing with the IRS. Nothing in there at all that would negate Congress' power under law to request tax returns.

 

Is there some other agency other than the IRS that is responsible for vetting US Federal tax returns and collecting taxes due ? The IRS is "the state" as far as the US taxpayer is concerned. Why don't we just wait and see what happens rather than talk about it as if we know whatmust happen. Maybe we'll all be surprised.

[bristolboy]

3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

You have no idea what you are on about.

And you provide no substantive rebuttals. Simply assertions about my lack of knowledge. Haven't got much use for facts, have you?

https://taxprof.typepad.com/files/154tn1013-yin.pdf

[Cryingdick]

2 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Is there some other agency other than the IRS that is responsible for vetting US Federal tax returns and collecting taxes due ? The IRS is "the state" as far as the US taxpayer is concerned. Why don't we just wait and see what happens rather than talk about it as if we know whatmust happen. Maybe we'll all be surprised.

 

He is talking out of his butt. Bristolboy not you.

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Is there some other agency other than the IRS that is responsible for vetting US Federal tax returns and collecting taxes due ? The IRS is "the state" as far as the US taxpayer is concerned. Why don't we just wait and see what happens rather than talk about it as if we know whatmust happen. Maybe we'll all be surprised.

But you do understand that there is a law passed in 1924 that allowed Congress to demand that the IRS turn over tax returns of any citizen?

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

 

He is talking out of his butt.

If that's the case, as the link below shows, my butt speaks more sensibly than does your mouth.

https://taxprof.typepad.com/files/154tn1013-yin.pdf

[Cryingdick]

2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

And you provide no substantive rebuttals. Simply assertions about my lack of knowledge. Haven't got much use for facts, have you?

https://taxprof.typepad.com/files/154tn1013-yin.pdf

It's a good thing that the socialist left hangs on for Trump's returns you won't be able to access them. It only makes the dems look dumber than they already look. 

[bristolboy]

2 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

It's a good thing that the socialist left hangs on for Trump's returns you won't be able to access them. It only makes the dems look dumber than they already look. 

Once again, no hard facts. Just irrelevant assertions and insults.

[lannarebirth]

5 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

But you do understand that there is a law passed in 1924 that allowed Congress to demand that the IRS turn over tax returns of any citizen?

Any Supreme Court cases upholding that law?  That ought to put your Googling to good use. Let us know, will you?

[Cryingdick]

9 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Once again, no hard facts. Just irrelevant assertions and insults.

This sort of righteousness is why the dems will seize defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

"Welcome to the circular shooting squad". That's an Obama quote just so everybody knows the context.

[bristolboy]

12 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

This sort of righteousness is why the dems will seize defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

"Welcome to the circular shooting squad". That's an Obama quote just so everybody knows the context.

Once again, when you've got nothing you resort to making predictions about the 2020 elections. Don't you have anything substantive at all to offer?

[Cryingdick]

3 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Once again, when you've got nothing you resort to making predictions about the 2020 elections. Don't you have anything substantive at all to offer?

 

So it is your assertion that Obama is wrong in that quote?

[55Jay]

Ah, so we've gone from "release because it's tradition", to "it's the law".   And now you goof balls are quoting chapter and verse, as if you've known it all along and like, duh you guys, "it's the law".  And you say Trump supporters are idiots for parroting Fox News.    LMAO!

 

This effort and the pretext behind the Ways and Means request, is as obvious as a fart in church on Sunday.  That's why it will fail.  Ought to sack the  House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Richard Neal (D-Mass) for misuse of his position and authority for political purposes.