Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sunmaster said: Big Bang = God ???? Who created god? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunmaster Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Who created god? If God had to be created, it wouldn't be God. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Big bang I respect your beliefs, but.. That's as credible as the tooth fairy. Can you prove it ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, mauGR1 said: you Prove god then Tooth fairy stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Sunmaster said: If God had to be created, it wouldn't be God. Which means there is no god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 https://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/ess05.sci.ess.eiu.microwave/evidence-for-the-big-bang-theory/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunmaster Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Which means there is no god I don't know how you made that jump in logic, but no, it doesn't mean that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 https://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-powered-the-big-bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, Sunmaster said: I don't know how you made that jump in logic, but no, it doesn't mean that at all. You cant create yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Sparktrader said: Prove god then Tooth fairy stuff The proof is in the existence of the intelligent design. Methinks you should look more often to the nature, and then it will be obvious. You can say the big bang, the nature happened "by chance", from a pool of mud, but, would you really believe it ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, mauGR1 said: The proof is in the existence of the intelligent design. Methinks you should look more often to the nature, and then it will be obvious. You can say the big bang, the nature happened "by chance", from a pool of mud, but, would you really believe it ? So you have no proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, mauGR1 said: The fact that the existence of God cannot be proven doesn't mean a thing. In the same way, ants and flies cannot prove the existence of humans. Once you see the order of the universe, you can think that it happened by chance, but that would be un-scientific. "I don't know " , that's closer to the truth. There seems to be an intelligent design at work, definitely, and whatever you want to call it is your choice. There is not a shred of evidence for the existence of god any more than for pixies and the tooth fairy - there have been about 4000 in total so not good odds you’ve even picked the right one ! " I don’t know " is no sound reason for giving any credence to an unsubstantiated belief . I refer you to 'Russell’s teapot ' for the schoolboy error often used ' you can’t prove god doesn’t exist'. I’ll leave you to look it up if you don’t know Russell’s teapot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 https://www.aclu.org/other/frequently-asked-questions-about-intelligent-design#:~:text=A%3A Intelligent design (ID),designed by a supernatural entity. : Intelligent design (ID) is a pseudoscientific set of beliefs based on the notion that life on earth is so complex that it cannot be explained by the scientific theory of evolution and therefore must have been designed by a supernatural entity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Sparktrader said: So you have no proof. That's your opinion, and my opinion is that you cannot see it. It's about connecting the dots, not rocket science ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, mauGR1 said: That's your opinion, and my opinion is that you cannot see it. It's about connecting the dots, not rocket science ???? Science is about facts not opinions though. Some people believe all sorts of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: https://www.aclu.org/other/frequently-asked-questions-about-intelligent-design#:~:text=A%3A Intelligent design (ID),designed by a supernatural entity. : Intelligent design (ID) is a pseudoscientific set of beliefs based on the notion that life on earth is so complex that it cannot be explained by the scientific theory of evolution and therefore must have been designed by a supernatural entity. It's pseudoscience only in the mind of the brainwashed by the materialistic propaganda, which apparently you seem to enjoy ???? Science is relentless research, not an array of dogmas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Is ID a scientific theory?A: No. A scientific theory must be testable and based on observable evidence. A scientific theory makes predictions about occurrences in the natural world that can then be tested through scientific experimentation. ID makes no predictions and cannot be scrutinized using the scientific method. So although proponents of ID couch their views in scientific terms, their assertion that ID is a scientific theory is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Communicate your emotions. Talk to the other person and explain why you feel the way you feel. Explain why you felt the need to win the argument and how you feel about the situation overall. Even if you know you're wrong, it doesn't invalidate your emotions. source Wikihowtowinanargumentevenyouknowyouarewrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Is ID a scientific theory?A: No. A scientific theory must be testable and based on observable evidence. A scientific theory makes predictions about occurrences in the natural world that can then be tested through scientific experimentation. ID makes no predictions and cannot be scrutinized using the scientific method. So although proponents of ID couch their views in scientific terms, their assertion that ID is a scientific theory is false. Who said that ID is a scientific theory? In my opinion ID is more likely than the big bang and the pool of mud though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, mauGR1 said: Who said that ID is a scientific theory? In my opinion ID is more likely than the big bang and the pool of mud though. Which proves my point. You post opinions only. Opinions are not facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Some people believe in ghosts. Same thing. Just an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunmaster Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, Sparktrader said: Which proves my point. You post opinions only. Opinions are not facts. The Big Bang is not a scientific fact either. It's only a theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Which proves my point. You post opinions only. Opinions are not facts. Where did i say that i "post facts " ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, Sunmaster said: The Big Bang is not a scientific fact either. It's only a theory. It is a theory based on known science. It could be wrong but has some basis in science. God is a theory based on faith, no science. Same as belief in ghosts In 500 years humans will known a lot more about science yet there will still be no proof of god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, mauGR1 said: Where did i say that i "post facts " ???? You attack people for disagreeing with your opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Rex Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Hell NO! (sic) All religions have been developed to control the masses - and especially in the case of Christianity, give them something to look forward to after their mundane existence ends. Blind faith is for those who are unable to question things , and are happy to believe that the inexplicable has been created/invented by some 'higher force'. Most(all?) religions are just another business. I have faith in my football team. I know they do not always win - but I know that they are the best team. You could not convince me to follow any other team. Same thing really I suppose... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Some people believe in ghosts. Same thing. Just an opinion. Supernatural entities exist, and most people flatly refuse to acknowledge them. I can understand why, and i have no problem with it. Can I prove it ? No, I'm not even interested. There are things that exist though, you just can't see them with your physical eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Rex Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sunmaster said: The Big Bang is not a scientific fact either. It's only a theory. Gravity is a theory too... Maybe that is not correct either? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunmaster Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: It is a theory based on known science. It could be wrong but has some basis in science. God is a theory based on faith, no science. Same as belief in ghosts In 500 years humans will known a lot more about science yet there will still be no proof of god. Science has only recently started to take a closer look at the connections between consciousness and mystical experiences. What they have found so far is very encouraging though. I recommend looking into that and I believe you will find that your statement is not correct. Edited June 10, 2022 by Sunmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauGR1 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: You attack people for disagreeing with your opinions. Oh, poor baby ???? Well, I thought you were enjoying the conversation, sorry for causing you pain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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