Brexit cannot define us, says UK PM's deputy as ratings dip

[Loiner]

13 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Didn’t you on 29 March already? ???? 

 

Are you sure about that? ???? 

 

The court said it was, and the only reason the result wasn’t declared void was because it isn’t legally binding anyway. 

 

Brexiteers telling lies again. 

 

Legislation can be changed ???? 

No, but we will be doing soon.

 

Very sure, everybody knows you lost, that's why you are all so pizzed about it.

 

No the court didn't, that's why they couldn't declare it void.

 

No lies there. Nothing to be found.

 

But hasn't been, has it?

[Loiner]

13 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

And while every renowned economist and business says the exact opposite we are supposed to believe the people who brought us other great promises such as 350 million per week for the NHS, the easiest deal in history and lots of easily rolled over trade deals. 

 

Sorry you're wrong again. It's not every renowned economist. Who would believe what an economist predicts anyway? They are as bad as statisticians and you know what they say about statistics - damned lies.

[Loiner]

8 hours ago, wilcopops said:

Even the Telegraph in concerned about the far right and racism in Brexitism

 

Rees Mogg representing the ordinary person????

 

Ha ha that's a laugh. Trying to portray Jacob Rees Mogg as a wacist. 

[Loiner]

2 hours ago, wilcopops said:

It is clear from the Brexiteers post here that Brexit is a hard right movement....those campaigning for it see it as an opportunity to make money or power for themselves...

 

No, it's clear from the posts here that Brexit is a cross-party issue, which includes previous left wing voters. The result of the referendum would confirm that too, unless you think 17.4 Million is a hard right movement.  

You are clutching at straws, trying to tarbrush Brexiteers as hard right, when they are nothing of the sort. Even the frequent use of 'hard' among Remainers when describing a full clean clear exit as 'hard' is an attempt at propaganda. 
You are failing on all fronts.

[evadgib]

26 minutes ago, Loiner said:

No, it's clear from the posts here that Brexit is a cross-party issue, which includes previous left wing voters. The result of the referendum would confirm that too, unless you think 17.4 Million is a hard right movement.  

You are clutching at straws, trying to tarbrush Brexiteers as hard right, when they are nothing of the sort. Even the frequent use of 'hard' among Remainers when describing a full clean clear exit as 'hard' is an attempt at propaganda. 
You are failing on all fronts.

I ignored this when i first saw it yesterday...

 

Edited April 17, 2019 by evadgib

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

No, but we will be doing soon.

 

Very sure, everybody knows you lost, that's why you are all so pizzed about it.

 

No the court didn't, that's why they couldn't declare it void.

 

No lies there. Nothing to be found.

 

But hasn't been, has it?

 

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Sorry you're wrong again. It's not every renowned economist. Who would believe what an economist predicts anyway? They are as bad as statisticians and you know what they say about statistics - damned lies.

Not sure if I should be amused or feel sorry for you still living in your little lala land but I hope you won’t be too devastated when reality kicks in, whether that’s a customs union, full membership or begging for help after crashing out. 

[Loiner]

Not sure if I should be amused or feel sorry for you still living in your little lala land but I hope you won’t be too devastated when reality kicks in, whether that’s a customs union, full membership or begging for help after crashing out. 

After watching over 40 years of the EU development, I have come to not rely on the feelings of anybody from there. All you feel about the UK is “How much can I squeeze from my cash cow this year.”
Roll on crashing out and independent world trading.

[puipuitom]

On ‎4‎/‎16‎/‎2019 at 1:32 PM, stephenterry said:

Which comes at a cost, and a very costly one at that. Already Brexit's costs have exceeded over a billion quid. Think what that taxpayers money could have been used for instead.   

with a 350 mln pounds a week... who cares about 3 days revenu... Ask Boris the Liar… 

[puipuitom]

On ‎4‎/‎16‎/‎2019 at 9:08 AM, stephenterry said:

The 'people' did not vote to leave. Get that straight. A minority of the people voted to leave, as did a minority vote to remain. The vast majority of people who could have voted did not vote at all. 

 

It would be fair to say that as the vast majority didn't vote to leave, your statement is incorrect.

Hence a peoples vote should include several options, one of which is 'Couldn't care less'.

How many voted for" leave, whatever the consequences/costs might be"? 

[puipuitom]

On ‎4‎/‎16‎/‎2019 at 2:05 PM, Loiner said:

That looks low. Have you forgotten to include the unnecessary EU contributions over the last three years. Should be about 26 Billion wasted in there.
Wasted on three years of Remainerism costs, when it should have been going back into the UK.
Come on, you Remainers are costing us a fortune daily with all your nonsense.

I advise you to follow a course "calculating till 20" 

Compared this EU contribution, inclusive to all EU bodies like EFSA, RASFF, and MANY others, it is a bargain. see https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/15/dangerous-products-could-swamp-uk-after-brexit-warns-which?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZGF5cy0xOTA0MTU%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&CMP=GTUK_email 

 

Edited April 17, 2019 by puipuitom

[puipuitom]

On ‎4‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 3:48 PM, malagateddy said:

I totally agree..just kick us out..but wait..you lot need our taxpayers money

Which (British) taks payers money ? ?

With quite some of your industries moving to the EU, we can miss the British sabotage as a disease.

[bomber]

3 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Which (British) taks payers money ? ?

With quite some of your industries moving to the EU, we can miss the British sabotage as a disease.

so £5.3 billion divided by 27 nations is hardly going to be the end of the EU its only £196 million each,cannot see any countries losing any sleep over it.

[Nigel Garvie]

6 hours ago, evadgib said:

I ignored this when i first saw it yesterday...

 

Your first instincts were correct, this is from the site of a vote Leave staffer and Con party columnist, overall about as balanced as a bag of cow dung on a pin.  I will happily agree with you though, that the moderates in the Labour Party have been under sustained attack from the far left which is pretty authoritarian.

 

6 hours ago, Loiner said:

No, it's clear from the posts here that Brexit is a cross-party issue, which includes previous left wing voters. The result of the referendum would confirm that too, unless you think 17.4 Million is a hard right movement.  

You are clutching at straws, trying to tarbrush Brexiteers as hard right, when they are nothing of the sort. Even the frequent use of 'hard' among Remainers when describing a full clean clear exit as 'hard' is an attempt at propaganda. 
You are failing on all fronts.

Yes as you say it does include includes previous left wing voters. Many of those who now vote UKIP or Farage will not accept that he is far, or at least fairly far, right wing, , but the numerous times that Farage and Ukip have stated they are in favor of privatizing the NHS - to give just one example - are a clear indication that he is. There is also stuff online where he has made it clear that he doesn't support many workers rights. Why this man is any sort of a hero to any member of the working class beggars belief. There are also those Cobynistas who still follow the anti EU Bennite insanity, but the basis for that (Stopping us from achieving a socialist utopia ...ho.ho) does not appear to be the motivation of any Brexiteer posters on TV. Notably it is among the Tory MPs and party members where it appears that the highest proportions of Brexit support is found. 

[puipuitom]

15 minutes ago, bomber said:

so £5.3 billion divided by 27 nations is hardly going to be the end of the EU its only £196 million each,cannot see any countries losing any sleep over it.

Thanks to the extra revenues, caused by the production shift of manufacturing like Mini in Borne (NL), maybe followed by Airbus, and a LOT of other British competition to the EU gone, with the British still need our fresh fruits, vegetables, dairy, I will not be surprized when NL, B F, Pt will offer to pay this additional costs. Industrial components from the EU the UK soon will not need anymore, as the "make" industry has switched to the same customs area: the EU.

This aside of charging the British - as we now do to the Swiss, the Norwegians - for services, like EU food safety investigations at EFSA, and food safety information at RASFF, it will be soon a more-win situation for the EU.

Bye-the-way: you think the British Retail Consortium food certification ( BRC) still will be used in the EU, or all will transfer to International Food Safety certification, as issued by the Germans, French and Italians ?  Bye-bye… 

Same for the CE certification for toys, sports articles, electric devices, paint etc.

For sure all Brits were well-informed at the ballot-box thanks to Boris the Liar and other Brexiteers.

 

Food safety after Brexit - Society for Applied Microbiology

 

https://www.sfam.org.uk/uploads/assets/.../c448b67b-ab22-46f4-ac23ebace777e2d4.p...

1.  

Keeping food safe after Brexit is a high public priority. A survey in early 2018 .... The UK contributes to the EU RASFF system, which notifies. Member States of ...

Reference to EFSA removed in Brexit law transfer - CIEH

 

https://www.cieh.org/ehn/2019/.../reference-to-efsa-removed-in-brexit-law-transfer/

1.  

Mar 7, 2019 - Securing continued UK access to the RASFF system, after leaving the EU, is a top food safety priority and we continue to press for full access to ...

UK must have access to RASFF and TRACES after leaving EU - LGA

 

https://www.foodnavigator.com/.../UK-must-have-access-to-RASFF-and-TRACES-afte...

1.  

May 31, 2018 - LGA: We need access to EU systems after Brexit ... Access to EU databases such as RASFF and TRACES is critical after Brexit, according to the ...

Diluting food safety by stealth: what the draft replacement regulations ...

 

https://foodresearch.org.uk/foodvoices/foodsafetybrexit/

1.  

Mar 7, 2019 - The UK will belong to neither after Brexit and will have to make alternative ... to negotiate for the UK's ongoing involvement in the RASFF.

UK to lose access to food safety system - Foodservice...

 

https://www.foodservicefootprint.com/uk-to-lose-access-to-food-safety-system/

1.  

Mar 7, 2019 - The UK will almost certainly lose access to the EU's food safety alert ... from public facing RASFF portals after 29 March, adding that the UK was ...

Leaving the EU without access to reciprocal intelligence will weaken ...

 

https://www.local.gov.uk/.../leaving-eu-without-access-reciprocal-intelligence-will-we...

1.  

May 30, 2018 - Continued access to these EU wide databases is of vital importance and the ... and animal health systems remains available in England after Brexit. ... how RASFF works - https://ec.europa.eu/food/sites/food/files/safety/docs/ ...

[bomber]

15 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

Thanks to the extra revenues, caused by the production shift of manufacturing like Mini in Borne (NL), maybe followed by Airbus, and a LOT of other British competition to the EU gone, with the British still need our fresh fruits, vegetables, dairy, I will not be surprized when NL, B F, Pt will offer to pay this additional costs. Industrial components from the EU the UK soon will not need anymore, as the "make" industry has switched to the same customs area: the EU.

This aside of charging the British - as we now do to the Swiss, the Norwegians - for services, like EU food safety investigations at EFSA, and food safety information at RASFF, it will be soon a more-win situation for the EU.

Bye-the-way: you think the British Retail Consortium food certification ( BRC) still will be used in the EU, or all will transfer to International Food Safety certification, as issued by the Germans, French and Italians ?  Bye-bye… 

Same for the CE certification for toys, sports articles, electric devices, paint etc.

For sure all Brits were well-informed at the ballot-box thanks to Boris the Liar and other Brexiteers.

 

Food safety after Brexit - Society for Applied Microbiology

 

https://www.sfam.org.uk/uploads/assets/.../c448b67b-ab22-46f4-ac23ebace777e2d4.p...

1.  

Keeping food safe after Brexit is a high public priority. A survey in early 2018 .... The UK contributes to the EU RASFF system, which notifies. Member States of ...

Reference to EFSA removed in Brexit law transfer - CIEH

 

https://www.cieh.org/ehn/2019/.../reference-to-efsa-removed-in-brexit-law-transfer/

1.  

Mar 7, 2019 - Securing continued UK access to the RASFF system, after leaving the EU, is a top food safety priority and we continue to press for full access to ...

UK must have access to RASFF and TRACES after leaving EU - LGA

 

https://www.foodnavigator.com/.../UK-must-have-access-to-RASFF-and-TRACES-afte...

1.  

May 31, 2018 - LGA: We need access to EU systems after Brexit ... Access to EU databases such as RASFF and TRACES is critical after Brexit, according to the ...

Diluting food safety by stealth: what the draft replacement regulations ...

 

https://foodresearch.org.uk/foodvoices/foodsafetybrexit/

1.  

Mar 7, 2019 - The UK will belong to neither after Brexit and will have to make alternative ... to negotiate for the UK's ongoing involvement in the RASFF.

UK to lose access to food safety system - Foodservice...

 

https://www.foodservicefootprint.com/uk-to-lose-access-to-food-safety-system/

1.  

Mar 7, 2019 - The UK will almost certainly lose access to the EU's food safety alert ... from public facing RASFF portals after 29 March, adding that the UK was ...

Leaving the EU without access to reciprocal intelligence will weaken ...

 

https://www.local.gov.uk/.../leaving-eu-without-access-reciprocal-intelligence-will-we...

1.  

May 30, 2018 - Continued access to these EU wide databases is of vital importance and the ... and animal health systems remains available in England after Brexit. ... how RASFF works - https://ec.europa.eu/food/sites/food/files/safety/docs/ ...

This and a load of other issues is why we wont be leaving..

[welovesundaysatspace]

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

After watching over 40 years of the EU development, I have come to not rely on the feelings of anybody from there. All you feel about the UK is “How much can I squeeze from my cash cow this year.”
Roll on crashing out and independent world trading.

What I feel about the UK is being amused by the illiterateness and failure of Brexiteer bully boys. 

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, bomber said:

so £5.3 billion divided by 27 nations is hardly going to be the end of the EU its only £196 million each,cannot see any countries losing any sleep over it.

The 5.3 is just plain wrong.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, puipuitom said:

Which (British) taks payers money ? ?

With quite some of your industries moving to the EU, we can miss the British sabotage as a disease.

You two silly pictures don't even agree with each other.

[bomber]

45 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The 5.3 is just plain wrong.

that is the surplus that the UK pays after all benefits/rebates etc according to the figures in the post,are you saying they are false,if so then please explain

[Nigel Garvie]

47 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You two silly pictures don't even agree with each other.

No they don't add up to the same, why should they. Money is spent on many other things that are not country specific.  Administration, joint research projects,  satellites, whatever. Just the same as the UK government, the extra money some rich people (But not the hyper rich whose tax avoidance schemes the Brexiteers are trying to help protect) pay doesn't all end up in the pockets of the poor.

[nauseus]

20 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

No they don't add up to the same, why should they. Money is spent on many other things that are not country specific.  Administration, joint research projects,  satellites, whatever. Just the same as the UK government, the extra money some rich people (But not the hyper rich whose tax avoidance schemes the Brexiteers are trying to help protect) pay doesn't all end up in the pockets of the poor.

UK net contributions (money down the bog) have been at least 9B for years.  

[nauseus]

35 minutes ago, bomber said:

that is the surplus that the UK pays after all benefits/rebates etc according to the figures in the post,are you saying they are false,if so then please explain

see 171

[bamboocore]

30 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

No they don't add up to the same, why should they. Money is spent on many other things that are not country specific.  Administration, joint research projects,  satellites, whatever. Just the same as the UK government, the extra money some rich people (But not the hyper rich whose tax avoidance schemes the Brexiteers are trying to help protect) pay doesn't all end up in the pockets of the poor.

When one takes a larger amount of these 'Brexiteers' all around the western world, they are all the same. They do wish to push their 'own' agendas, which have been pre-planned by 'higher forces' a long time ago. 

 

It's the same thing in every country when it comes to the right wing propagandonists. 

 

I'm not sure why they actually think they'll do a service for their own culture and country, when they are actually doing service for their Russian foreplayers. 

 

I guess, they feel empowerment. 

[bomber]

25 minutes ago, nauseus said:

see 171

see 168

[nauseus]

57 minutes ago, bomber said:

see 168

Go back to Old Kent Road, do not pass GO and forget about the 200 quid.

[wilcopops]

Does this look or sound like a, dictatorship? More like a union looking after individual low paid workers.

All this and other workers' rights will be swept away under the far right Brexit plans.

It not the UK that is being told what to do by the EU, its the far right being thwarted so often that makes them want Brexit, vote leave and the ice Wall will be breached, winter will come and the Brexit far Right walkers (sorry can't type the letter N!) will pour in........

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-47947220?fbclid=IwAR2meYfEQolx3kWDt1Sm0WFUhIsdVwlmT0Bh3eBixW2pM20AoqLGuy7J1uk

 

 

Edited April 17, 2019 by wilcopops

[wilcopops]

6 hours ago, puipuitom said:

Which (British) taks payers money ? ?

With quite some of your industries moving to the EU, we can miss the British sabotage as a disease.

People usually pay a fee to join a club because they want the benefits of being in that club.

Just looking at the fees is facile, look at why we joined....

The UK benefits in trillions in trade commerce and I.dustry by being in the EU.

Don't be blinkered, look at the whole picture.

 

[bamboocore]

1 hour ago, wilcopops said:

People usually pay a fee to join a club because they want the benefits of being in that club.

Just looking at the fees is facile, look at why we joined....

The UK benefits in trillions in trade commerce and I.dustry by being in the EU.

Don't be blinkered, look at the whole picture.

 

"

I have created my own 18-hole golf course, where I can claim sovereignty a my very own course! I feel like a king, for a while. Then the stupid maintenance and watering bills comes and I no longer feel so great. 

 

For 40 years I found good friends, who shared my maintenance and watering bills. This was good for me, but I secretly always though they were to steal my golf course from me!

 

I decided to be a brave man and say, 'Fruck you all. I no longer wish your company. I'm a brave man'.

 

I had them before, but then I behaved in really bad way and pissed them all. Now they are no longer eager to play with me and share the costs . What the heck is wrong with these stupid people?

"

Brexit

 

Edited April 17, 2019 by bamboocore

[vogie]

4 hours ago, bamboocore said:

"

I have created my own 18-hole golf course, where I can claim sovereignty a my very own course! I feel like a king, for a while. Then the stupid maintenance and watering bills comes and I no longer feel so great. 

 

For 40 years I found good friends, who shared my maintenance and watering bills. This was good for me, but I secretly always though they were to steal my golf course from me!

 

I decided to be a brave man and say, 'Fruck you all. I no longer wish your company. I'm a brave man'.

 

I had them before, but then I behaved in really bad way and pissed them all. Now they are no longer eager to play with me and share the costs . What the heck is wrong with these stupid people?

"

Brexit

 

When you change secretly change your golf club into a rugby club without telling the members, they are going to be mighty peeved and may want to leave.

[malagateddy]

When one takes a larger amount of these 'Brexiteers' all around the western world, they are all the same. They do wish to push their 'own' agendas, which have been pre-planned by 'higher forces' a long time ago. 
 
It's the same thing in every country when it comes to the right wing propagandonists. 
 
I'm not sure why they actually think they'll do a service for their own culture and country, when they are actually doing service for their Russian foreplayers. 
 
I guess, they feel empowerment. 

"Russian foreplayers "..can I have your homebrew recipe??
Seeing as you're on about Russia..what do you think about Merkel and Putin's little deal..you know the one she does not like to talk about?
Ps..black..sticky and smelly I believe.
Cheers..a very proud Brexiteer

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