Popular Post icare999 Posted April 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2019 I went this morning to do my retirement visa renewal in Chiang Mai No problem at all very quick service went in at 7.15 am and was surprised office already open got my extension by 10 am No mention at all of new rules and was not told i had to report back in 3 months as some haver suggested 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJKT2014 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, icare999 said: No mention at all of new rules Did you do the bank balance method of 800k? If so what are your plans going forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icare999 Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, MJKT2014 said: Did you do the bank balance method of 800k? If so what are your plans going forward? 800,000 in bank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, icare999 said: 800,000 in bank did you season for 2 months or 3, did they even suggest you keep the balance for 3 months after or mention the 400k baht balance for 12 months, very strange they didn't mention any of this or even give you an explanation sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJKT2014 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Presumably you never touch it all year in the past, otherwise I'd be concerned about the new minimum balances rules you were not told about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icare999 Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 hours ago, smedly said: did you season for 2 months or 3, did they even suggest you keep the balance for 3 months after or mention the 400k baht balance for 12 months, very strange they didn't mention any of this or even give you an explanation sheet no they said nothing just gave me my normal 1 year extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icare999 Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 hours ago, MJKT2014 said: Presumably you never touch it all year in the past, otherwise I'd be concerned about the new minimum balances rules you were not told about? 4 hours ago, MJKT2014 said: Presumably you never touch it all year in the past, otherwise I'd be concerned about the new minimum balances rules you were not told about? no i never do that for last 10+ years ive alwasy as soon as i got my extension take money and spend it and then 3 months before make sure i have 800k + and dont go below. IT is/was usually a bit of a problem getting 800k again so I had to sell some investment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icare999 Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 i was hoping to hear from others if they were told anything particularly in CM office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SEtonal Posted April 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2019 Only Jomtien Immigration is requesting that people show up 90 days after receiving a retirement extension using 800k to show their bank book. Chiang Mai is the greediest Immigration Office in Thailand. They didn't tell you about the new rules because they want you to violate the rules then they can refuse your extension next year and force you to go to an agent. I have kept up some of the stunts CM IO has pulled this year: 1. Refused to accept the combination method 2. Refused to accept a still valid income verification letter from the US Consulate 3. Refused to accept 40k a month and demanded 400k be seasoned for two months, when no seasoning is required, for the parent of a Thai to get a Non-Imm O visa. 2 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Man Who Sold the World Posted April 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2019 icare999 - thank you for reporting 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Play safe for now, have the cash in the bank for 3 months not two and keep it there for the next 3. Hopefully they will all find out what the rules are before long and tell us, I know it's a lot to expect! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icare999 Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, SEtonal said: Only Jomtien Immigration is requesting that people show up 90 days after receiving a retirement extension using 800k to show their bank book. Chiang Mai is the greediest Immigration Office in Thailand. They didn't tell you about the new rules because they want you to violate the rules then they can refuse your extension next year and force you to go to an agent. I have kept up some of the stunts CM IO has pulled this year: 1. Refused to accept the combination method 2. Refused to accept a still valid income verification letter from the US Consulate 3. Refused to accept 40k a month and demanded 400k be seasoned for two months, when no seasoning is required, for the parent of a Thai to get a Non-Imm O visa. well ive been here over 30 years most in CM never had a porblem yet but I dont have a cash problem luckily and make sure i keep to all rules but your right if i had not heard fo new rules id have as usual spent 800k baht in next week or so and gone next year thinking all is ok I did ask IO if I could go onto marriage visa she said id need to go to next desk to ask and added why you obviously have no problem with retirement visa. I did have a unusual large amount in bank letter having just sold some asset and not yet used money for another investment. I had 1.8 million but thats very unusual and she could see from my bank book I kept just above 800k for 3 months before and before that very low balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJKT2014 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 9 hours ago, icare999 said: your right if i had not heard fo new rules id have as usual spent 800k baht in next week Thanks for your helpful info. Back to my original question, since you didn't hear about the new rules from the IO this visit what are you doing going forward? Eating into your balance below 800k like last year? There must be many people in your situation who haven't been told by the IO - not everyone reads this forum which is how you found out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thingamabob Posted April 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2019 Don't worry about all the negative things you read here. Never had a problem anywhere in over 35 years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannathaijohn Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I also had an extension of stay at CM immigration in late March by the Baht 800,000 in bank option as usual. HOWEVER they did give me a paper to sign as acknowledgment of the new requirements passed into law ( this was in Thai and English) . Note that it only referred to the new regulations , not the actual contents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 18 hours ago, icare999 said: no they said nothing just gave me my normal 1 year extension Why would they not? you went the 800k method 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaSan Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Perhaps silly question - but - how does one get a same day bank letters AND apply at Immigration at 7:15 before any banks open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 minute ago, MamaSan said: Perhaps silly question - but - how does one get a same day bank letters AND apply at Immigration at 7:15 before any banks open? I don't think Chiang Mai immigration requires the letter to be done on the same day you apply. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerandDog Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, icare999 said: i was hoping to hear from others if they were told anything particularly in CM office CM are usually happy to have the bank guarantee letter dated the day prior to applying, but they DO require a transaction on the same day as the application. Will be going to CM to do my extension ( retirement with 800k in the bank) next week. Will report back on what transpires. Edited April 18, 2019 by TigerandDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerandDog Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 46 minutes ago, MamaSan said: Perhaps silly question - but - how does one get a same day bank letters AND apply at Immigration at 7:15 before any banks open? If your bank manager is a friend, as mine is, he will instruct his staff to date the letter the same date as you're applying for your extension, viz. I'll be seeing my bank manager on 24th and he will have the letter dated the 25th which is when I will go to Immigration. As for having a transaction on the day of applying, I preset an online transaction for the day of applying and visit an ATM that updates passbooks on my way to Immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 4:23 PM, MJKT2014 said: Presumably you never touch it all year in the past, otherwise I'd be concerned about the new minimum balances rules you were not told about? They know that farang retirees are smart and we gossip among ourselves like like old ladies drinking sherry at an art symposium.....which some of us might just be 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Geen Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I have always thought: what new rules? Same as the old rules! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaSan Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 15 hours ago, TigerandDog said: If your bank manager is a friend, as mine is, he will instruct his staff to date the letter the same date as you're applying for your extension, viz. I'll be seeing my bank manager on 24th and he will have the letter dated the 25th which is when I will go to Immigration. As for having a transaction on the day of applying, I preset an online transaction for the day of applying and visit an ATM that updates passbooks on my way to Immigration. Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxter Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 11:00 PM, icare999 said: well ive been here over 30 years most in CM never had a porblem yet but I dont have a cash problem luckily and make sure i keep to all rules but your right if i had not heard fo new rules id have as usual spent 800k baht in next week or so and gone next year thinking all is ok I did ask IO if I could go onto marriage visa she said id need to go to next desk to ask and added why you obviously have no problem with retirement visa. I did have a unusual large amount in bank letter having just sold some asset and not yet used money for another investment. I had 1.8 million but thats very unusual and she could see from my bank book I kept just above 800k for 3 months before and before that very low balance. I suspect it will take a while to see what each IO decided or finds out the new rules. Fortunately for me I use a marriage visa, but I know a few friends here in CM who are switching , due to lack of funds and the bad exchange rates. Personally I have found the new IO in CM a lot better than the old one, except the lack of food stalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 18 hours ago, TigerandDog said: CM are usually happy to have the bank guarantee letter dated the day prior to applying, but they DO require a transaction on the same day as the application. Will be going to CM to do my extension ( retirement with 800k in the bank) next week. Will report back on what transpires. They do not, an update the day before (same day as the guarantee letter) is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 4/18/2019 at 8:53 AM, MJKT2014 said: Thanks for your helpful info. Back to my original question, since you didn't hear about the new rules from the IO this visit what are you doing going forward? Eating into your balance below 800k like last year? There must be many people in your situation who haven't been told by the IO - not everyone reads this forum which is how you found out? Yes it's only been news on this forum, i have not seen it mentioned in the B P at all. not told of it on my last 90 days and not given any printed information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 3:29 PM, icare999 said: No mention at all of new rules and was not told i had to report back in 3 months as some have suggested Why would they bother to tell you,they have all our addresses, phone num, and email, but give out information would be to much trouble for them, they don't appear to care one iota about us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyp Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 On 4/18/2019 at 3:58 PM, MamaSan said: Perhaps silly question - but - how does one get a same day bank letters AND apply at Immigration at 7:15 before any banks open? At CW I had to wait a couple of hours in the queue. That is plenty of time to go downstairs and complete any bank business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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