St George's Day

[billd766]

Happy St George's day to all us English people worldwide.

[Oxx]

A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims.  We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day.

[Stocky]

St George pre-dates Islam, I believe he was a Roman soldier from what is now Turkey. So an appropriate symbol for multicultural England.

 

(It's hardly his fault Crusaders stuck his cross on their shields and tabards)

 

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Edited April 23, 2019 by Stocky

[VocalNeal]

11 minutes ago, Oxx said:

A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims.  We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day.

 

Just a modern PC knee jerk without any knowledge of who St. George was.  

 

At least i looked...

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His veneration by Christians and Muslims lies in his composite personality combining several Biblical, Quranic and other ancient mythical heroes.^[41]

 

[petermik]

Not only St Georges Day but my b/day also...............

[brewsterbudgen]

At least St Patrick's Day is a good excuse for a piss-up.  I can't see any reason for celebrating St George's Day when most English people neither know nor care about it (apart from some small-minded nationalists).

[VocalNeal]

Flags will be flying on all Anglican churches. 

 

St Patrick's day has also no real relevance to St Patrick in the modern world it is simply an evening long happy hour. Mostly celebrated by the descendants of refugees from the republic...

[billd766]

41 minutes ago, Oxx said:

A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims.  We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day.

Well I suppose you might say that it is a tad insensitive to muslims, but how about Hindus Buddhists, church of Scotland and all the other religeons around. I am not pc and I never will be, nor do I care what you may think.

 

Nor do I give a rats arzzz about what you think is the UK multicultural society.

 

BTW I specifically named only England because St George IS the patron saint of England and it is his day, not that of a multicultural society.

20 minutes ago, petermik said:

 

 

St George is the patron saint of England, St Andrew of Scotland, St David of Wales and St Patrick of Ireland.

Edited April 23, 2019 by billd766

[billd766]

18 minutes ago, petermik said:

Not only St Georges Day but my b/day also...............

 

 

[evadgib]

54 minutes ago, Oxx said:

A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims.  We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day.

Banging that particular drum just 24hrs after 290 people have been murdered inc 8 Brits, by ...........................?

Give it a rest pal! ☹️

Edited April 23, 2019 by evadgib

[Oxx]

31 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Banging that particular drum just 24hrs after 290 people have been murdered inc 8 Brits, by ...........................?

Give it a rest pal! ☹️

 

A handful of Muslims who don't represent mainstream Islamic opinion did something terrible.  Perhaps if the West wasn't so keen upon waging war and fomenting turmoil in Muslim countries, then it might not have happened.  The hundreds of thousands of Muslims who've died as a result of the West's policies make the small number of non-Muslims killed pretty insignificant in the greater scale of things.

 

The failure of the West to treat Muslims with respect is uncivil (particularly in the case of England when Muslims were invited to come and work here and to contribute to society), both in international policies and in continuing to promote the Crusader St. George iconography.

 

Where I come from in the UK it's considered rude to invite someone into one's house, then insult them.  To do so is a betrayal of British values and standards.  Treat other people with respect.  Or, since we're talking about a saint here, do as Jesus said "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another". 

 

 

[Oxx]

55 minutes ago, billd766 said:

I am not pc and I never will be, nor do I care what you may think.

 

I thought all the dinosaurs were extinct.  I hope it's not too long before the last of them is.

[evadgib]

25 minutes ago, Oxx said:

 

A handful of Muslims who don't represent mainstream Islamic opinion did something terrible.  Perhaps if the West wasn't so keen upon waging war and fomenting turmoil in Muslim countries, then it might not have happened.  The hundreds of thousands of Muslims who've died as a result of the West's policies make the small number of non-Muslims killed pretty insignificant in the greater scale of things.

 

The failure of the West to treat Muslims with respect is uncivil (particularly in the case of England when Muslims were invited to come and work here and to contribute to society), both in international policies and in continuing to promote the Crusader St. George iconography.

 

Where I come from in the UK it's considered rude to invite someone into one's house, then insult them.  To do so is a betrayal of British values and standards.  Treat other people with respect.  Or, since we're talking about a saint here, do as Jesus said "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another". 

 

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Give it a rest pal! ☹️

 

[billd766]

25 minutes ago, Oxx said:

 

I thought all the dinosaurs were extinct.  I hope it's not too long before the last of them is.

No reasonable response, just insult the poster, as usual.

[evadgib]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

No reasonable response, just insult the poster, as usual.

A trait all too common on these boards of late ☹️

[Oxx]

31 minutes ago, billd766 said:

No reasonable response, just insult the poster, as usual.

 

No "reasonable response" because you didn't make any reasonable point remotely worth of response.

 

As for "insult the poster", it was you who wrote "Nor do I give a rats arzzz about what you think is the UK multicultural society".

 

Just toddle off to the nearest dinosaur graveyard, won't you?

 

[Traubert]

3 hours ago, Oxx said:

A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims.  We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day.

Ok, deal. We'll cancel Ramadan as well. Then everybody is happy, ok?

[VocalNeal]

What? Ramadan is party time. There would be a war.

[wgdanson]

2 hours ago, Oxx said:

 

A handful of Muslims who don't represent mainstream Islamic opinion did something terrible.  Perhaps if the West wasn't so keen upon waging war and fomenting turmoil in Muslim countries, then it might not have happened.  The hundreds of thousands of Muslims who've died as a result of the West's policies make the small number of non-Muslims killed pretty insignificant in the greater scale of things.

 

The failure of the West to treat Muslims with respect is uncivil (particularly in the case of England when Muslims were invited to come and work here and to contribute to society), both in international policies and in continuing to promote the Crusader St. George iconography.

 

Where I come from in the UK it's considered rude to invite someone into one's house, then insult them.  To do so is a betrayal of British values and standards.  Treat other people with respect.  Or, since we're talking about a saint here, do as Jesus said "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another". 

 

 

Jesus.....isn't he a Man City player?

[grollies]

6 hours ago, Oxx said:

A tad insensitive to Muslims, isn't it? Celebrating a figure so associated with the Crusaders fighting against Mohammedans and the terrible massacres? The UK is now a multicultural society, enriched by people from across the globe, including Muslims.  We should celebrate their contributions to society and respect their feelings by putting an end to St. George's Day.

Which is why it isn't PC to celebrate the day in the UK anymore.

[Lacessit]

Much ado about nothing.

[brewsterbudgen]

Which is why it isn't PC to celebrate the day in the UK anymore.

Has it ever been? I grew up in the 1970s and I don't ever remember celebrating it.

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[Stocky]

18 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Has it ever been? I grew up in the 1970s and I don't ever remember celebrating it.

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Likewise, I grew up in the UK during 60s/70s, it was never anything I remember celebrating, it was the Irish, Welsh and Scots that did Saint's Days.

 

It was only skinheads and the National Front who liked to wave the Cross of St George.

 

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Edited April 23, 2019 by Stocky

[evadgib]

The English Democrats website includes a petition to make St Georges day a public holiday in line with everyone else.

It's currently @ 67k signatures.

Edited April 24, 2019 by evadgib

[bomber]

george was actually french

On 4/23/2019 at 5:49 AM, Stocky said:

St George pre-dates Islam, I believe he was a Roman soldier from what is now Turkey. So an appropriate symbol for multicultural England.

 

(It's hardly his fault Crusaders stuck his cross on their shields and tabards)

 

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he was french actually,i might get my tricolour out it is red,white and blue after all

[bomber]

9 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Make St Georges day a public holiday

lets have 2 may days instead ????

[bomber]

19 hours ago, Stocky said:

Likewise, I grew up in the UK during 60s/70s, it was never anything I remember celebrating, it was the Irish, Welsh and Scots that did Saint's Days.

 

It was only skinheads and the National Front who liked to wave the Cross of St George.

 

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very true,i barely heard of it until 10-15 years ago and barely anyone other than the above mentioned are bothered,seems like an excuse for a visit to spoonies and copying the paddys more than anything,but lets raise a glass of red wine to the frenchman anyway

[Stocky]

1 hour ago, bomber said:

george was actually french

No he wasn't.

 

A Frenchman fighting a dragon, don't be ridiculous.

[bomber]

1 hour ago, Benroon said:

errrrr no he wasn't

Eerrrr its highly probable he was french...or even turkish or roman

Edited April 24, 2019 by bomber

[Stocky]

6 minutes ago, bomber said:

Eerrrr its highly probable he was...or even turkish