Former Vice President Biden launches White House bid as Democrat frontrunner

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Luckysilk said:

So is this gropin Joe's 3rd or 4th run at being President ?

 

 

Who's counting. He'll never beat Stassen. 

Also, he did WIN to be VICE president, two times.

VICE president to a very popular president among democrats.

That ain't chopped liver. 

 

Also, let's get real. Who is "trump" most afraid of running against? JOE BIDEN, of course.

 

"trump" does have a lot to lose. If he loses in 2020 he may be leaving the white house in an orange jumpsuit.

Edited April 25, 2019 by Jingthing

[Cryingdick]

15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Just how FAR right wing do you need to be to compare Joe Biden with Trotsky! The mind boggles. 

 

Let's get real, Joe Biden is the first real SOMEBODY to enter the democratic race. It's hard to beat a SOMEBODY with someone less than that. Sanders is sort of a somebody but he just committed election suicide. "trump" is a big orange somebody. Biden's case will be we need to run a somebody against him. It's a good argument. Historically it's hard to beat any incumbent even more so if the economy is good or OK. Best chance of WINNING can be compelling. 

 

It's also hard to win if your purple puddle from last elections has no credible achievements of any kind to show people. 

[canuckamuck]

32 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

‘Soy boys’ is the far-right’s newest favorite insult

Well, it wasn't meant to be a compliment, I guess you were fine with buffoons and harpies though.

ANd these days far right it is anyone who hasn't got their communist party papers or cut off their gonads yet.

[Jingthing]

Well, it wasn't meant to be a compliment, I guess you were fine with buffoons and harpies though.
ANd these days far right it is anyone who hasn't got their communist party papers or cut off their gonads yet.

I don't agree.

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[Jingthing]

 
It's also hard to win if your purple puddle from last elections has no credible achievements of any kind to show people. 

Like I said "trump" hard core base people write them off. Biden can compete for many softer "trump" voters of course particularly women. So could most of the democratic choices actually.

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[Kasane]

39 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Soy boys?

https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/soy-boy-alt-right-insult/

 

As I already said, "trump" base voters are just write offs. The base that never grows or shrinks. 

George Conway, Kellyanne's husband, has an insult that is sticking...DerangedDonald ????

[Nyezhov]

55 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Just how FAR right wing do you need to be to compare Joe Biden with Trotsky! The mind boggles. 

Just how ideologically blinded must you be to not understand the point I made. Thats common with the ORDINARY left.

[Nyezhov]

34 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

ANd these days far right it is anyone who hasn't got their communist party papers or cut off their gonads yet.

Ouch. Yeah, far right would be my Roosevelt relatives and Burkean liberals.

 

 

[Tug]

5 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

It's also hard to win if your purple puddle from last elections has no credible achievements of any kind to show people. 

What does that purple puddle comment mean exactly?

[Cryingdick]

Just now, Tug said:

What does that purple puddle comment mean exactly?

 

The dems claimed they had a blue tsunami last mid terms. The reality was they won less   seats in the mid terms after the presidential election than most other elections in recent history. Hence the blue tsunami was a purple puddle. red+blue=purple.

 

What I am getting at is the dems have accomplished absolutely nothing of note since the mid terms.

[webfact]

Former VP Biden's 2020 bid reshapes White House race

By James Oliphant and John Whitesides

 

Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden announces his candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination in this still image taken from a video released April 25, 2019. BIDEN CAMPAIGN HANDOUT via REUTERS

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden entered the 2020 Democratic presidential field on Thursday as an instant front-runner, drawing momentum away from other leading candidates and putting new pressure on underperformers to find ways to stay relevant.

 

Biden, 76, a longtime U.S. senator who served two terms as former President Barack Obama's No.2, announced his bid in a video describing the high stakes of the race to take on President Donald Trump in next year's election.

 

"We are in the battle for the soul of this nation," Biden said. "I believe history will look back on four years of this president and all he embraces as an aberrant moment in time. But if we give Donald Trump eight years in the White House, he will forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation, who we are, and I cannot stand by and let that happen."

 

Trump responded in a post on Twitter, saying "welcome to the race Sleepy Joe" and slamming Biden's intelligence.

 

Biden joins U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders, a self-described "Democratic socialist," atop the 20-candidate field. With Biden positioned to be Sanders' chief rival, the resulting clash could lay bare the conflict in the Democratic Party between its moderate and progressive wings.

 

Although Biden has yet to lay out policy proposals as a candidate, he backs many causes valued by progressives, including raising the minimum wage, combating climate change, banning assault weapons and free public college. He has not come out in favour of a Medicare for All plan advocated by Sanders and others.

 

Kyle Kondik, a political analyst at the University of Virginia, says it remains unclear if Biden can build on his loyal base of support. If that happens, it could come at Sanders' expense.

 

Given his longstanding support from African-Americans and his partnership with Obama, Biden could also affect the candidacy of U.S. Senator Kamala Harris, who is widely regarded as a serious contender for the nomination.

 

Biden's entry also threatens to derail the rise of Pete Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, who has benefited from a surge of media coverage in recent weeks. And it further presses candidates such as former housing Secretary Julian Castro, U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and former Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper, who have failed so far to register with voters, to come up with ways to stay in the game.

 

"In many ways, this settles the race down rather than shaking it up," said Jeff Link, a Democratic strategist in Iowa who worked for Obama's presidential campaign in 2008.

 

But Biden faces his own challenges, including questions about whether he is too old and too centrist for a party yearning for fresh faces and increasingly propelled by its more vocal liberal wing.

 

Biden failed to gain traction with voters during previous presidential bid in 1988 and 2008. As speculation about his third effort mounted, Biden came under fire for his propensity for touching and kissing strangers at political events, with several women coming forward to say he had made them feel uncomfortable.

 

Biden struggled in his response to the concerns, at times joking about his behaviour. But ultimately, he apologised and said he recognised standards for personal conduct had evolved in the wake of the #MeToo movement.

 

"Joe Biden is going to regret this decision," said Matt Gorman, a former official at the National Republican Congressional Committee, an arm of the Republican Party. "His candidacy will not only rehash his very long record in public life, but allow his opponents to subtly argue he is too old and too moderate to be the Democratic standard-bearer."

 

Obama said in a statement that he has long said selecting Biden to be his running mate in 2008 was one of the best decisions he ever made.

 

Biden on Thursday told reporters in Wilmington, Delaware, that he has asked Obama to not endorse him. “Whoever wins this nomination should win it on their own merits,” Biden said.

 

'THREAT TO NATION'

On Thursday, Biden held up the example of the 2017 attack at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, that killed a counterprotester as a defining moment for the nation.

 

"It was there ... we saw (Ku Klux) Klansmen and white supremacists and neo-Nazis come out in the open ... bearing the fangs of racism," Biden said, criticizing Trump's remarks at the time that there were "very fine people on both sides."

 

There was no moral equivalence between racists and those fighting such inequality, he said.

 

"In that moment, I knew the threat to this nation was unlike any I had ever seen in my lifetime," Bidensaid.

 

Biden will travel across the country in the coming weeks, kicking off his tour with a visit on Monday to Pittsburgh.

 

Pennsylvania, not far from Biden's home state of Delaware, is a key battleground state and former industrial hub that backed Trump in 2016. The Republican president is seeking to capture the state again even as Democrats saw wins there in the 2018 midterm congressional election.

 

CENTRIST CANDIDATE

Biden's long history in the Senate, where he was a leading voice on foreign policy, will give liberal activists plenty to criticise. He is the only candidate in the field who voted in support of the Iraq War in 2002.

 

As Senate Judiciary Committee chairman, he angered women's rights activists with his handling of sexual harassment allegations against Clarence Thomas during the justice's 1991 Supreme Court confirmation hearings.

 

He also has been censured over his ties to the financial industry and for his authorship of a 1994 crime act that led to increased incarceration rates.

 

The Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which backs U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren, said Biden's centrist record could be a hindrance.

 

"If Joe Biden positions himself as the political insider from yesteryear who says big ideas like universal childcare, student debt relief and a wealth tax on ultra-millionaires are not possible, he would be an easy foil," said Adam Green, the group's co-founder.

 

(Reporting by John Whitesides and James Oliphant; additional reporting by Susan Heavey, Rich McKay and Ginger Gibson; Editing by Colleen Jenkins and Alistair Bell)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-04-26

[Tug]

You have that tds bad brother lol he got spanked and now look how the mr art of the deal handles it the guy is toast and that’s why nothing has been accomplished 

Edited April 25, 2019 by Tug

[riclag]

In comparison to Mr. Trump he's another  white  dirty old man! The difference between the two one supported 8 years of Obama(bad policies ) the other didn't!

[Scott]

Troll posts removed.  

[simple1]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

In comparison to Mr. Trump he's another  white  dirty old man! The difference between the two one supported 8 years of Obama(bad policies ) the other didn't!

If the administration succeeds—and it’s well on its way to doing so—it will have fundamentally damaged U.S. national interests for years to come.

 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/23/trump-obama-foreign-policy-226708

[Kelsall]

 "The party of inclusion" front runners are old white CIS gendered males.  They really should run the "most qualified woman" candidate like last time.  She barely lost and did indeed win the popular vote.

 

Trump 2020 is guaranteed.

[Damrongsak]

He's too liberal and creepy for me.  But I hate all these egoistic old politicians who simply will not go away.  They all seem to think that they are God's gift to the world and their sh!t don't stink. 

Edited April 25, 2019 by Damrongsak

[Thainesss]

LOL Joe Biden. 

 

Of all the people in the United States, the Dems are going to put all their money behind Creepy Joe Biden. The mind boggles. 

 

1994 Crime bill and the War on Drugs that locked up thousands and thousands of black men. Backing of the Assault Weapons Ban under Clinton which among other things helped spurn the American Militia Movement. 

 

Dude has been wrong politically on just about everything hes touched. Hes the male version of Hillary Clinton, running the exact same campaign Hillary Clinton did - "Trump Bad. Im good. Vote for me."

 

And hes a bit of a racist. Bidens thoughts on Obama:

 

Quote

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," 

 

So According to Biden, Obama was the first CLEAN black guy ????

 

 

[Tug]

Yup trump supporters more desperate by the minute joe Biden has done for his country not done his country for himsielf it is a question of morality your Donald is toast

[Thainesss]

1 minute ago, Tug said:

joe Biden has done for his country not done his country for himsielf

 

Now this just isnt true. Everything Joe has done in the past has been to help Joe reach higher levels of politics and enrichment. Hes your standard narcissistic Democrat politician who's perfected double-speak. 

[lannarebirth]

10 hours ago, Tug said:

So many posters I’ve never seen before???anyway good to see an experienced stable decent centerest make a play just the right person to get the ship of state back on course just the guy to start repairing our damaged reputation on the world stage hope he picks Harris or warren as vp if they are willing make no mistakes he is ont tough dude and just the person to put Donald were he belongs

 

If he picked Klobuchar she might be able to deliver Minnesota.

[Tug]

If he is the candidate he will deliver more much much more

[Boon Mee]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Very powerful opening statement video!

He's going to be hard to beat.

Who should he pick for VP?

Stacy Abrams?

 

 

 

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He should pick Mayor Pete! 555 

[utalkin2me]

Got some really old nominees and really young ones. And of course the level headed ones who check every box like klobuchar wont get any attention, but what the hell is new is US politics? 

[Boon Mee]

Gaff-tastic

Right out of the starting box Biden says that he wants to "Make America Straight Again" 

You can't make this stuff up! 555 

[Thainesss]

1 minute ago, utalkin2me said:

And of course the level headed ones who check every box like klobuchar wont get any attention

 

Klobuchar is an unlikable person with a condescending attitude. 

[Cryingdick]

He made a short video with a soundtrack that sounds like 'Psycho' and failed to lay out any agenda he stands for. He is living in the shadow of Obama and it isn't enough.

[Thainesss]

And its worth noting that Biden has chosen angry racist Symone Sanders as a top advisor and she's left CNN to do so. 

[utalkin2me]

7 minutes ago, Thainesss said:

 

Klobuchar is an unlikable person with a condescending attitude. 

lol you just described the current president almost to a t. i gotta say i am not even a woman but i do get this sort of "women not getting the spotlight" point that has been brought up. more and more i see this as very true

[Thainesss]

2 minutes ago, utalkin2me said:

lol you just described the current president almost to a t. i gotta say i am not even a woman but i do get this sort of "women not getting the spotlight" point that has been brought up. more and more i see this as very true

 

It has nothing to do with her gender, its that she's an unlikeable, condescending person who treats her staff like shit. Nothing makes me eye roll harder than when people use a persons gender or skin color as a shield for criticism.