52 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

And totally rigged. That isn't tin-foil hat talk. That's what it is. 

Yes indeed, Rkidlad (above) For anyone - even in their gurgling infancy - to think that this election was NOT rigged and that the Thai people have not all been fed egregious lies and subjected to criminal manipulation from start to finish - well, I am lost for words ...

Naivety clearly knows NO bounds.

 

Edited May 14, 20197 yr by Eligius

44 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said:

Then why did the votes change in every are where they actually recounted lol... 

Maybe the concept of vote rigging was firmly based on the age-old practice of buying votes; the 500 baht just to show up sort of malarkey?

 

In tune with their grand vision for the next 20 years, this junta has also implemented "vote rigging 4.0". While everyone was earnestly watching out for and publicly catching the few and far between pre-vote shenanigans, outwith the 'own goal' by Thai Raksa, by virtue of the EC and the CC, they already had all the tools in place to 'legally' rig this election in the post-vote. Why else would the initial vote call by the EC at 8 PM on the day of election and all their subsequent sham-fisted efforts in obfuscation be allowed to stand unchallenged?

 

They already knew they would have to shift the goalposts but only after the 'rough count' was agreed could they define the minutiae of exactly who needed to be charged with sedition, banned for 10 years or allowed to get a seat despite having only the immediate family and the noodle shop lady voting for them?

21 hours ago, webfact said:

Eleven micro parties that were last week granted one seat each in the Lower House due to a controversial allocation method announced on Monday they would back General Prayut Chan-o-cha as prime minister and the pro-junta party Phalang Pracharat as the coalition leader.

Open bribery is still tolerated in a corrupt as it can get Thailand.

The ruling party will stop at nothing to remain in power. The Thai people deserve the government they accept, If they acquiesce to this blatant fraud.

21 minutes ago, d2b2 said:

The ruling party will stop at nothing to remain in power. The Thai people deserve the government they accept, If they acquiesce to this blatant fraud.

What do you suggest?

What do you suggest?

Striking? [emoji848] Worth a try, shut down every 7 11 for a week, let's see what happens

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19 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

What do you suggest?

Hide all the calculators and watch the country grind to a halt  ????

19 hours ago, ocddave said:

Did they have to sign their name in blood? I mean if you are going to sell your soul to the Devil, at least do it right.

..and sup with a long spoon.

 

22 hours ago, robblok said:

Of course they will not do this en masse, there is a large support for the junta. Something many people here on this board are reluctant to admit. The pro junta parties got quite a few votes. So again the country is quite divided. The anti junta camp is probably bigger, but the pro junta camp is not small either. Its not like the whole of Thailand is against the junta (unfortunately). 

 

Very true Rob. The pro-Junta  PP party won the more votes than any other single party. FF took votes from the Democrats but also from PTP whose vote was halved from last time. 

 

People didn't vote for a coalition. And just as the LibDems in the UK found out, when backing the Conservatives in a coalition, voters don't always like it. And show their dislike at the next election.

 

 

 
Very true Rob. The pro-Junta  PP party won the more votes than any other single party. FF took votes from the Democrats but also from PTP whose vote was halved from last time. 
 
People didn't vote for a coalition. And just as the LibDems in the UK found out, when backing the Conservatives in a coalition, voters don't always like it. And show their dislike at the next election.
 
 

That's not how democracy works [emoji23]

And let's conveniently forget that thai raksa got banned and that ff guy in chiang mai got banned and and and...

Whats next? Are u suggesting there should be a hundred parties and the one with most votes even if it's just 5 percent of the total should just run the country themselves? [emoji848]

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1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Very true Rob. The pro-Junta  PP party won the more votes than any other single party. FF took votes from the Democrats but also from PTP whose vote was halved from last time. 

 

People didn't vote for a coalition. And just as the LibDems in the UK found out, when backing the Conservatives in a coalition, voters don't always like it. And show their dislike at the next election.

 

 

PP, officially, received 532,407 more votes than PTP

 

But when certain facts are taken into consideration such as:

 

* The number of ballots exceeding the number of voters in some constituencies

* The excessively high number of invalid votes - 2,130,327 (5.57% of all votes cast)

* That PTP only contested 250 seats (i.e. half the 500 constituency seats up for grabs)

* The undue (illegal) coercion of military personnel and government bureaucrats to vote for PP

* Publication of incorrect candidate details by the Election Commission prior to the election

* Improper ballot box transportation

* The as yet unexplained discovery of hundreds of thousands of "uncounted ballots"

* Broken ballot box locks found in the trash

* The continued refusal by the Election Commission to release all figures for all constituencies

 

One has to wonder how that 532,407 figure would really stand up in a free and fair election - don't you think?

 

Edited May 14, 20197 yr by pornprong

On 5/13/2019 at 3:25 PM, webfact said:

Eleven micro parties

They must feel so proud.

3 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

... And show their dislike at the next election.

At the next what now?

On 5/13/2019 at 3:25 PM, webfact said:

Despite their support, the parties also vowed to maintain their independence and to scrutinise Phalang Pracharat’s government.

and the Pope is a catholic

20 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Very true Rob. The pro-Junta  PP party won the more votes than any other single party. FF took votes from the Democrats but also from PTP whose vote was halved from last time. 

 

People didn't vote for a coalition. And just as the LibDems in the UK found out, when backing the Conservatives in a coalition, voters don't always like it. And show their dislike at the next election.

 

 

You purposefully miss the point. They got more votes due to the Army ordered to vote that way, only the Junta were allowed to meet in years, they bribed PTP Cobras to rat on their party. They banned a prominent person and then the party. Then they changed the rules after the election. 

Every country in the world allows coalitions to form governments. PTP and FFP had the votes and they were cheated out of victory when your beloved Junta knew they would lose.

I hope BumJaiThai honour their promise not to back Prayut - and the Democrats become Democratic and honour their leaders pledge before the election 'vote for us we will not support Prayut'.