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And here is another proof: do you have money? Kill, because then with the money you buy the conscience of the family, GREAT !!!

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may the deceased rest in peace
45 mil and a red plate fortuner seem appropriate understanding of the financial situation of the family

indeed, still the accident happen because the driver was drunk, even if not jail at least few years with social works, such helping traffic accident victims to recover and assist who got permanent injuries .

shall not be only money

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1 hour ago, BestB said:

Totally makes sense , but you making it out as if he or other rich people set out to kill on purpose.

 

poor also drive drunk and jail does not stop them from driving drunk again. 

No they don't but often they have an idea they are above the law. If paying money means they get away without any punishment they will keep feeling they are above the law. Locking someone up shows others what can happen when rich people get locked up other rich people might think twice before going in the car with alcohol.

 

Sure some poor people drive too but I would wager you that the rich take more risks because of their protected status. This is a feeling / opinion i cant backup.

 

For the record I don't think that anyone gets in a car to kill someone but I feel the moment someone drives and drinks they should be punished really harsh even if they don't kill anyone. Drink driving is just not acceptable it endangers others and more often then not the person driving survives while the one he / she hits does not. 

 

I have nothing against drinking or drugs but just don't operate a vehicle under the influence of drugs or alcohol. 

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If nothing else at least this guy has the balls to stick around and face the music unlike that A/*ole from the Red Bull family - BOSS!

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7 hours ago, webfact said:

Jatuporn's two children Suphapitcha, 15, and Piyapha, 12, will each get 15 million baht. As they are minors the money will be administered by the court until they are adults.

I would rather see the money held in a bank account in the name of each child with a monthly index linked amount paid to them.

At the age of adults they then take control of the account!

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He has turned away from drink, has stopped driving and now just drinks coffee, she said. 

 

OOPs just ducked a squadron of flying pigs nearly hit me.

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7 hours ago, Power of life yoga said:

I mean,  I myself would accept 45 million Baht! money makes the world go round and we can't live without it. Nothing can bring the family back and it is very sad. Everyone makes mistakes and his one cost him a large sum of money.  I realize many wouldn't agree with my opinion. but each to their own. 😎 sabai sabai 

Fine , and his contrition should be recognised by slightly reducing his jail sentence.

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8 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I have mixed feelings about this. I am happy that Somchai has put his hand deep in his pocket and ensured the kids are financially set. I am very unhappy that he seems set to escape jail time. Sure, he has shown contrition, but two people are dead because of him. If he is allowed to stay out of jail, it will send a message to every other rich person that you can drive as drunk as you like, wipe out as many people as you like and walk free by lobbing out a few dollars. I hope the court recognises this and ensures he does see time behind bars.

 

Don't worry, they already got the message since they are born, and it is not going to change.

But anyway is it very different in the west where money can also buy freedom ?

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, robblok said:

Agreed however i worry there will be no jail for this guy and 45 million is nothing for someone like him.

 

Agree. And he could easily have afforded a driver before and avoided two needless deaths.

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1 hour ago, robblok said:

No they don't but often they have an idea they are above the law. If paying money means they get away without any punishment they will keep feeling they are above the law. Locking someone up shows others what can happen when rich people get locked up other rich people might think twice before going in the car with alcohol.

 

Sure some poor people drive too but I would wager you that the rich take more risks because of their protected status. This is a feeling / opinion i cant backup.

 

For the record I don't think that anyone gets in a car to kill someone but I feel the moment someone drives and drinks they should be punished really harsh even if they don't kill anyone. Drink driving is just not acceptable it endangers others and more often then not the person driving survives while the one he / she hits does not. 

 

I have nothing against drinking or drugs but just don't operate a vehicle under the influence of drugs or alcohol. 

When I was locked up , cells were full of drunk drivers, none of them

were rich . You would be surprised which take more risks.

 

again not saying what is morally right or wrong but paying a large chunk of money is hardly “non punishment” in my opinion.

 

will he or other rich do it again knowing it may cost 45000000? Is the real question here

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1 minute ago, BestB said:

When I was locked up , cells were full of drunk drivers, none of them

were rich . You would be surprised which take more risks.

 

again not saying what is morally right or wrong but paying a large chunk of money is hardly “non punishment” in my opinion.

 

will he or other rich do it again knowing it may cost 45000000? Is the real question here

Of course the rich ones would not be locked up and they are a minority compared to the poor ones. Anyway they can't be too harsh on people who drink and drive. It worked in the west fewer and fewer people drink dan drive.

 

Its about the deterrent of course i get that still it would be unfair if he gets off without any jail-time. Jail-time should be mandatory for drink driving offences when people get killed. 

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If the money has already changed hands, a ten million fine by the court and a ten year sentence suspended for ten years (if they do that here) might get close. Do not actually see him doing time.

 

Would the insurance pay up or does his drunkenness invalidate that?

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8 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I have mixed feelings about this. I am happy that Somchai has put his hand deep in his pocket and ensured the kids are financially set. I am very unhappy that he seems set to escape jail time. Sure, he has shown contrition, but two people are dead because of him. If he is allowed to stay out of jail, it will send a message to every other rich person that you can drive as drunk as you like, wipe out as many people as you like and walk free by lobbing out a few dollars. I hope the court recognises this and ensures he does see time behind bars.

"it will send a message to every other rich person" that they can continue exactly as they always have? - no changes forthcoming, seems they are all happy with the outcome? _ Its their country................

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25 minutes ago, robblok said:

Of course the rich ones would not be locked up and they are a minority compared to the poor ones. Anyway they can't be too harsh on people who drink and drive. It worked in the west fewer and fewer people drink dan drive.

 

Its about the deterrent of course i get that still it would be unfair if he gets off without any jail-time. Jail-time should be mandatory for drink driving offences when people get killed. 

 But you can not have both. Have him pay out a huge amount and jail him.

 

This is where moral dilemma comes in . Do you jail him and let insurance pay 500 000 if that per head or do you let him pay substantial amount and let him walk free. 

 

Justice in the west would say jail him, but looking from a family point of you, clearly they prefer bright future over him rotting in jail and them get peanuts to nothing . 

 

In this particular case, it would appear guy is truly remorseful. He could have paid 1/3 of what he paid and did not have to offer jobs or any other assistance . 

 

Sometimes people do silly things and are willing to accept responsibility for it, as it appears in this case 

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1 minute ago, BestB said:

 But you can not have both. Have him pay out a huge amount and jail him.

 

This is where moral dilemma comes in . Do you jail him and let insurance pay 500 000 if that per head or do you let him pay substantial amount and let him walk free. 

 

Justice in the west would say jail him, but looking from a family point of you, clearly they prefer bright future over him rotting in jail and them get peanuts to nothing . 

 

In this particular case, it would appear guy is truly remorseful. He could have paid 1/3 of what he paid and did not have to offer jobs or any other assistance . 

 

Sometimes people do silly things and are willing to accept responsibility for it, as it appears in this case 

Why can't you have both in some Scandinavian countries fines go up if your income goes up. So you can have both. Its just you who says you can't have both.

 

I prefer him to rot in jail and pay, just paying should never be a get out of jail time.

 

You think the guy is remorseful, I doubt it I think he just wants to have no jail time. Giving up drinking.. yea sure. 

 

But I guess you have different views on drinking and driving then I do.

 

 

I think we both disagree on how we see this guy. I see him as an other rich scumbag trying to pay his way out kinda like the guy in the Mercedes who killed the two people by driving in them at crazy speed. Ayuttaya, recently he got a higher sentance.

 

I could be wrong of course he truly is remorseful, just that I have seen this song and dance many times before. 

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At least he wasn't cheap like the Red Bull family. 45 million is a decent settlement. I don't see the need for any jail time, although that might not be a mainstream view among the expats on TV.

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40 minutes ago, BestB said:

 But you can not have both. Have him pay out a huge amount and jail him.

 

This is where moral dilemma comes in . Do you jail him and let insurance pay 500 000 if that per head or do you let him pay substantial amount and let him walk free. 

 

Justice in the west would say jail him, but looking from a family point of you, clearly they prefer bright future over him rotting in jail and them get peanuts to nothing . 

 

In this particular case, it would appear guy is truly remorseful. He could have paid 1/3 of what he paid and did not have to offer jobs or any other assistance . 

 

Sometimes people do silly things and are willing to accept responsibility for it, as it appears in this case 

Of course you can do both. A criminal prosecution secures conviction and resulting punishment , civil action secures financial recompence. 

I have no problem with the accused paying blood money , but that should never nulify criminal prosecution.

Look this is Thailand , money talks and justice walks , but from a moral standpoint there is no dilemma whatsoever.

Incidently we only have the word of the accused ( or rather his lawyers word ) that there is any remorse at all other than he got caught.

Personally I think he will have paid the minimum he was advised to pay and I very much doubt that he has given up alcohol for good.

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9 hours ago, seajae said:

greed is more important than family, the mother is only concerned that she is now wealthy and has totally ignored the fact this arse wipe killed her son and his wife, shows how pathetic some thais think, money comes before everything else. As for the police/law. he should be automatically charged and jailed but again money is more important

 

So you prefer he just go to jail and the family gets nothing? Which is exactly what would happen where I come from, the UK. Thais can be very practical on occasions. Only putting someone in jail helps no-one at all in any way. There is only a sense of justice, which doesn't help with life's expenses and dealing with the consequences. We as Westerners might find the concept of 'paying off' abhorrent, but who is right and who is wrong?

A line that did interest me though was that he cleared a five million credit card debt. That makes me think the money he has given won't last five minutes. At least the money for the kids is being held for them until they are older.

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38 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

At least he wasn't cheap like the Red Bull family. 45 million is a decent settlement. I don't see the need for any jail time, although that might not be a mainstream view among the expats on TV.

This has to be trolling... Someone kills others through drunk driving and you believe they are above the law because they were wealthy?

 

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59 minutes ago, robblok said:

Why can't you have both in some Scandinavian countries fines go up if your income goes up. So you can have both. Its just you who says you can't have both.

 

I prefer him to rot in jail and pay, just paying should never be a get out of jail time.

 

You think the guy is remorseful, I doubt it I think he just wants to have no jail time. Giving up drinking.. yea sure. 

 

But I guess you have different views on drinking and driving then I do.

 

 

I think we both disagree on how we see this guy. I see him as an other rich scumbag trying to pay his way out kinda like the guy in the Mercedes who killed the two people by driving in them at crazy speed. Ayuttaya, recently he got a higher sentance.

 

I could be wrong of course he truly is remorseful, just that I have seen this song and dance many times before. 

Fines may well go up , but no one can force you to pay family 10 times more than insurance would pay.

 

there is a huge difference between fines to government and blood money to the family 

 

and  the guy you referring to did not even offer to pay anywhere near the amounts this guy has already paid 

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19 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

So you prefer he just go to jail and the family gets nothing? Which is exactly what would happen where I come from, the UK. Thais can be very practical on occasions. Only putting someone in jail helps no-one at all in any way. There is only a sense of justice, which doesn't help with life's expenses and dealing with the consequences. We as Westerners might find the concept of 'paying off' abhorrent, but who is right and who is wrong?

A line that did interest me though was that he cleared a five million credit card debt. That makes me think the money he has given won't last five minutes. At least the money for the kids is being held for them until they are older.

 

Where you come from [the UK] the general population is in a far safer position when on the roads because people are penalized and sentenced regardless of wealth or position.

 

The true practicality of these sentences is in prevention, putting someone in jail helps everyone as the penalties (jail terms) are significant enough to act as a deterrent. In Thailand the deterrent is very weak and trumped by money, look at the drink driving issues which exist here. 

 

Providing the kids with Money does offer a practical solution towards their future, but permitting this behavior is not beneficial for society on a whole. 

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6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

This has to be trolling... Someone kills others through drunk driving and you believe they are above the law because they were wealthy?

 

But it’s not above the law, he has paid  a huge amount of money to the family.

 

in any court, some punishment is fines , some community service. Some jail time and some death.

 

so he was punished , in this case self punishment , 45 000 000 is no small change and it was not in bribes but to the family 

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2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Where you come from [the UK] the general population is in a far safer position when on the roads because people are penalized and sentenced regardless of wealth or position.

 

The true practicality of these sentences is the prevention, putting someone in jail helps everyone as the deterrent is significant enough to act as a deterrent. In Thailand the deterrent is very weak and trumped by money, look at the drink driving issues which exist here. 

 

Providing the kids with Money does offer a practical solution towards their future, but permitting this behavior is not beneficial for society on a whole. 

And with all the preventative measures in UK, people continue to drink and drive. So clearly possibility of jail or huge fines is not a deterrent 

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4 hours ago, BestB said:
7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Valid questions - but they avoid the issue of Penalties being a deterrent and facing the greater issue at hand which involves penalties which work as a preventative measures toward others thinking they can do what they want with impunity. 

 

IF others before him had been dealt with lawfully with real penalties then this mother and father may still be alive - that is the crux of the issue - when people get away with a crime others think they can get away with it too.

Yes agree but plenty have been dealt with more harshly but people still drive drunk.

 

in the west we have tough penalties yet people continue to drive drunk.

 

look at Indonesia , death for drugs, and yet problem has not stopped, people continue to smuggle and deal

 

A rather vague argument there BestB, It would seem that your implication is that because minority break the law the penalties are ineffective as a preventive measure. 

 

People will always 'think they can get away with it' and will take risks, but the majority of the population of fearful of the consequences both legally and through social judgement, in Thailand the exact opposite exists - no one is fearful of the penalties, they can pay their way out (a acquaintance recently paid 6000 baht after getting caught driving drunk at 2am).

 

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9 minutes ago, BestB said:
13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Where you come from [the UK] the general population is in a far safer position when on the roads because people are penalized and sentenced regardless of wealth or position.

 

The true practicality of these sentences is the prevention, putting someone in jail helps everyone as the deterrent is significant enough to act as a deterrent. In Thailand the deterrent is very weak and trumped by money, look at the drink driving issues which exist here. 

 

Providing the kids with Money does offer a practical solution towards their future, but permitting this behavior is not beneficial for society on a whole. 

And with all the preventative measures in UK, people continue to drink and drive. So clearly possibility of jail or huge fines is not a deterrent 

The serious penalties are a deterrent for the majority of the population and that makes the roads in the UK much safer because of this. It is only a minority who take a chance and risk the law. 

 

In Thailand the majority of the population do not fear the consequences, this makes the roads more dangerous. 

 

I don't know anyone in the UK who drinks and drives. In Thailand, pretty much every Thai male I know drinks and drives, most women also do, only a handful don't.

 

 

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In most first world countries there are both civil and criminal charges brought against those who commit a crime like vehicular manslaughter while drunk.  
In Thailand, if you have the money, you can buy your way out of criminal charges.  The 'little people' however face incarceration.  Take the word "Fair" out of your personal dictionary.  Life ain't fair.  

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And that's the last anybody will hear of this.

 

I wonder if his total output will hit 50 or 60 million by the time all the brown envelopes have been distributed through the justice system. 

 

It must by good to be so rich that you can have absolute impunity whatever you do by buying the souls of morally bankrupt public servants.  

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26 minutes ago, BestB said:
33 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

This has to be trolling... Someone kills others through drunk driving and you believe they are above the law because they were wealthy?

 

But it’s not above the law, he has paid  a huge amount of money to the family.

 

in any court, some punishment is fines , some community service. Some jail time and some death.

 

so he was punished , in this case self punishment , 45 000 000 is no small change and it was not in bribes but to the family 

 

[In any court some punishment is fines, some community service. Some jail time and some death]... Agreed, and in any criminal court the punishment for Killing someone while driving drunk would be jail time.

He has paid a lot of money in the hope of avoiding jail time - he is hoping his wealth places him beyond the legal process and punishment because precedent has taught him it can. 

 

The money is a significant punishment but a cynic would suggest that if he can readily afford it, its not punishment but payment to avoid more serious punishment in jail time.

 

This is an interesting story because it shows how some of us are ready to accept that because the DUI killer is wealthy and has paid a lot of money he can avoid a certain degree of severity in his sentence. 

 

 

What happens when another rich guy drinks too much and his friends tell him not to drive, leave the car, but he argues.. its ok, I have money....  then he drives and kills someone?... this is the issue there was insufficient deterrent for this rich guy. 

 

Currently in Thailand there is insufficient deterrent full stop. 

 

 

I don't drink drive because I am fearful of getting caught, I have friends that I can call who will see the issue dealt with very quickly, I have no fear of the penalties in Thailand whatsoever. The reason I don't DUI is because I don't want to hurt anyone. 

 

 

 

 

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Would he have paid 45 million if he had killed 2 foreigners? No, the families would have received nothing.

 

The only reason he has been stung for this amount is because the guy he killed was a senior police officer.

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