Junta bloc takes big step

[webfact]

Junta bloc takes big step

By  THE NATION

 

 

FORWARD TO FORM GOVT PHALANG PRACHARAT EXTENDS INVITATIONS TO DEMOCRAT AND BHUMJAITHAI, BUT NO CLEAR ANSWER YET 

 

THE DEMOCRAT and Bhumjaithai parties yesterday were formally approached by the pro-junta Phalang Pracharat Party to form a coalition government after Parliament opened on the weekend and elected the house speakers.

 

Sources said a deal on portfolio allocation had yet to be sealed. 

 

The election of the house speaker over the weekend pointed to a strong possibility that the two medium-sized parties with a combined 103 seats in the lower house would be a part of the military-backed government. But the Democrat Party remained non-committal, saying more talks were needed.

 

Bhumjaithai, however, officially accepted the Phalang Pracharat offer, citing the coalition leader’s acceptance of its four conditions.

 

It is reported that Phalang Pracharat has offered six ministerial seats in total to Democrat and Bhumjaithai. Key positions such as prime minister, defence and interior ministers are reserved for junta leaders General Prayut Chan-o-cha, General Prawit Wongsuwan and General Anupong Paochinda respectively.

 

The move for government formation comes after the House of Representatives opened over the weekend and saw the election of house speaker and deputy speakers. 

 

Once the positions are endorsed by the King, a house meeting should be called to set up the government and select the head of government.

The Democrat Party, which now has 53 MPs, yesterday welcomed Phalang Pracharat at its headquarters but appeared undecided.

 

Democrat secretary-general Chalermchai Sri-on said after the meeting that there were positive signs and both parties shared a similar policy direction, including on amendments to the Constitution.

 

“But we should talk again because today we only talked about the principles,” the politician said. “Before we can give Phalang Pracharat an answer, some steps have to be taken. The same goes for Phalang Pracharat. We cannot rush but it should not take too long.”

 

The hesitation is seen as stemming from the hiccups in the election of house speaker on Saturday, which exposed internal conflicts in the pro-junta bloc. But Chalermchai dismissed the reports, saying the Democrat Party was not concerned about the matter.

 

Phalang Pracharat leader Uttama Savanayana, who represented the party in extending the invitation yesterday, also said his party had no problem with the issue. The election ended well and the bloc had already shown its support to Democrat candidate Chuan Leekpai.

 

Uttama said yesterday’s discussion had gone well, allowing both parties to work together.

 

Later in the afternoon yesterday, Uttama also represented his party in inviting Bhumjaithai to join the coalition.

 

Bhumjaithai leader Anutin Charnvirakul told media after the meeting that he would discuss the issue within the party again. If all parties agreed to join the coalition, Anutin said they would hold more talks to discuss the direction of the work.

 

Bhumjaithai’s decision was based on its determination to solve bread-and-butter issues, Anutin stressed.

 

Though the Phalang Pracharat-led coalition is expected to be unstable because of its lack of a clear majority, Anutin said the house meetings on the weekend had gone smoothly and should be considered stable.

 

Asked if it were still possible that Bhumjaithai would join the Pheu Thai-led coalition, Anutin said the party had not been approached by any party other than Phalang Pracharat.

 

Uttama yesterday declined to say anything about Cabinet seat allocation. Reports said the coalition was offering the Democrats and Bhumjaithai at least six ministerial positions in total, including A-list ministries such as Commerce and Transport.

 

Other parties intending to join the pro-military coalition are Chartthaipattana, Chart Pattana and 11 minor parties with one seat each.

 

Chartthaipattana MP Nikorn Chamnong said his party had not been invited by Phalang Pracharat to join the government and it would make a decision when its executive board meets.

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2019-05-28

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[rkidlad]

A completely farcical and rigged election. The by-election in CM has nicely put the finishing touches on this embarrassment of an election. 

 

I feel so sorry for Thais who genuinely went to the polls to vote for change and have just been completely ignored. 

[Eric Loh]

5 minutes ago, webfact said:

Bhumjaithai leader Anutin Charnvirakul told media after the meeting that he would discuss the issue within the party again. If all parties agreed to join the coalition, Anutin said they would hold more talks to discuss the direction of the work.

Getting tired of this charade by BJT and Dem Party trying to sound that they still have not decide to align with PPRP. These 2 parties with that slippery eel party Chartthaipattana are so hypocritical in their behavior to try portray a iota of decency to their supporters when their leaders have already been promised A class ministerial positions and covertly accepted to join the junta coalition. 

[baansgr]

I thought the UK was in a bad way..

[BobBKK]

Chiang Mai

FFP = 75,000 and PPPP = 25,000 and Dems 1,800

So what does that equal?  ALL get a seat!  that's only fair right? 

By the logic of Dems getting 1 seat for 1,800 FFP should have 41

[Baerboxer]

3 hours ago, baansgr said:

I thought the UK was in a bad way..

 

It is - and probably going to get worse!

[Eligius]

All a sick joke and a shameless disgrace (from start to finish) - and a constant, unrelenting insult to everyone's intelligence, whether Thai  or Westerner.

[sjaak327]

5 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Getting tired of this charade by BJT and Dem Party trying to sound that they still have not decide to align with PPRP. These 2 parties with that slippery eel party Chartthaipattana are so hypocritical in their behavior to try portray a iota of decency to their supporters when their leaders have already been promised A class ministerial positions and covertly accepted to join the junta coalition. 

We all remember Prayuth's trip to Buriram a few months back, he bought Newin there. No surprise. 

[joecoolfrog]

2 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

It is - and probably going to get worse!

Very possibly but the UK illness is not terminal , that of Thailand probably is. 

[Chrisswe]

7 hours ago, rkidlad said:

A completely farcical and rigged election. The by-election in CM has nicely put the finishing touches on this embarrassment of an election. 

 

I feel so sorry for Thais who genuinely went to the polls to vote for change and have just been completely ignored. 

Money,money,money is the.............!!!!!!

[jesimps]

3 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

It is - and probably going to get worse!

Only if the politicians carry on ignoring the result of the referendum. In a democracy, if you disregard the will of the people then eventually the brown stuff's going to hit the fan.

[hansnl]

8 hours ago, rkidlad said:

A completely farcical and rigged election. The by-election in CM has nicely put the finishing touches on this embarrassment of an election. 

 

I feel so sorry for Thais who genuinely went to the polls to vote for change and have just been completely ignored. 

Change?

You mean the TS & YS Club?

Short memory?

[Artisi]

8 hours ago, BobBKK said:

Chiang Mai

FFP = 75,000 and PPPP = 25,000 and Dems 1,800

So what does that equal?  ALL get a seat!  that's only fair right? 

By the logic of Dems getting 1 seat for 1,800 FFP should have 41

Of course its fair, junta fair, and as far as the junta are concerned that's all that matters. 

[Artisi]

3 hours ago, Eligius said:

All a sick joke and a shameless disgrace (from start to finish) - and a constant, unrelenting insult to everyone's intelligence, whether Thai  or Westerner.

Seems many Thai's don't care and Westener's, who are they? 

[Eligius]

8 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Seems many Thai's don't care and Westener's, who are they? 

Right, Artisi (above).

And often the worst offenders are the 'educated' Thais - the 'I'm All Right, Jacks'.

Jut this week, two young university lecturers (possessed of Master's Degrees) said to me:

a) The junta is not bad - things are peaceful and nothing has really been badly affected in Thailand by the coming of the junta, and

b) It was right and necessary to kick Thanathorn out of Parliament as he might have caused trouble - he is a trouble-maker.

 

I give up!

[rkidlad]

22 minutes ago, hansnl said:

Change?

You mean the TS & YS Club?

Short memory?

Yes. If you dislike the Junta, it must because you like Thaksin and Yingluck. 

 

Can anyone else think of any other reasons someone might dislike the junta? I'm drawing a blank. 

[Artisi]

1 minute ago, rkidlad said:

Yes. If you dislike the Junta, it must because you like Thaksin and Yingluck. 

 

Can anyone else think of any other reasons someone might dislike the junta? I'm drawing a blank. 

Is it possible to dislike Thaksin and his merry band of thieving cohorts and also dislike the junta and their merry band of thieving cohorts. 

Appears Thailand is going to be forced to accept one or the other, so the question is, which one is the worst choice? 

[rabas]

8 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Yes. If you dislike the Junta, it must because you like Thaksin and Yingluck. 

 

Can anyone else think of any other reasons someone might dislike the junta? I'm drawing a blank. 

 

Tanks?

 

Edited May 28, 2019 by rabas

[mickey rat]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

Sources said a deal on portfolio allocation had yet to be sealed. 

TIT...????

[TKDfella]

1 hour ago, Artisi said:

Is it possible to dislike Thaksin and his merry band of thieving cohorts and also dislike the junta and their merry band of thieving cohorts. 

Appears Thailand is going to be forced to accept one or the other, so the question is, which one is the worst choice? 

Hmmm, while I agree I think there is more force behind tanks and guns.

[bannork]

It seems the Democrats are having problems with PPRP:

1. They want assurances PPRP will agree to constitutional changes as promised by The Dems in the election campaign.

2. They will not accept Prayuth vetting the name list of ministers from coalition partners. He did not come from an election and thus has no right.

3 Abhisit may well resign his seat if they join the junta. They don't want to lose him.

4. In addition, some Young Dems are threatening to quit if they join the junta.

Is it worth it ?

 

 

 

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, Artisi said:

Appears Thailand is going to be forced to accept one or the other, so the question is, which one is the worst choice? 

There is no choice, Prayut has the tanks and guns.

The only question being, how long will he let the other MPs prat around before he pulls them out.

I'm thinking another week, two at the most before his patience fails.

Edited May 28, 2019 by BritManToo

[Isaanbiker]

2 hours ago, rabas said:

 

Tanks?

 

Plus Article 44 and the biggest corrupt wannabe politicians on this planet. Pinocchio's brother is one of the most corrupt guys. 

Let's not start with the watch joke now. 

And when I say that they even top Trump and Merkel, it means a lot to me. 

[Wilsonandson]

12 hours ago, webfact said:

It is reported that Phalang Pracharat has offered six ministerial seats in total to Democrat and Bhumjaithai. Key positions such as prime minister, defence and interior ministers are reserved for junta leaders General Prayut Chan-o-cha, General Prawit Wongsuwan and General Anupong Paochinda respectively.

They're dividing up the cake already. 

[sjaak327]

3 hours ago, bannork said:

It seems the Democrats are having problems with PPRP:

1. They want assurances PPRP will agree to constitutional changes as promised by The Dems in the election campaign.

2. They will not accept Prayuth vetting the name list of ministers from coalition partners. He did not come from an election and thus has no right.

3 Abhisit may well resign his seat if they join the junta. They don't want to lose him.

4. In addition, some Young Dems are threatening to quit if they join the junta.

Is it worth it ?

 

 

 

The party should stay well clear of this. Providing they want to be relevant in the future. They either join the anti junta coalition, or remain in opposition, and since they are the biggest looser of the election, that might very well be their place. 

 

Without the dems, Prayuth's only route to PM is the senator route. I hope this will happen, so they can get rid of him after a few days...

[Tajasia]

On 5/28/2019 at 9:51 AM, rkidlad said:

A completely farcical and rigged election. The by-election in CM has nicely put the finishing touches on this embarrassment of an election. 

 

I feel so sorry for Thais who genuinely went to the polls to vote for change and have just been completely ignored. 

Sorry completely duped and robbed