4 minutes ago, Ozman52 said:

I'm already close to tears of laughter at the steady stream of whining losers predicting all sorts of defections and problems for Thailand's elected government. The level of wishful thinking and bias colouring your predictions are tantamount to self-abuse.

If you cannot see the stormy waters that Prayuth's gerrymandered coalition already finds itself in, you have imbibed far too much of the kool aid my friend.

 

Why do you think the article you are responding to has been written?

Just a bored journalist making up stories to fill in his days?

 

Already the unstable and weak coalition has lost two votes (Abhisit and the BJT guy who refused to vote for Prayuth) and we're only one day in.

 

I love that you call it "Thailand's elected government" - shows you have a sense of humour.

1 minute ago, pornprong said:

If you cannot see the stormy waters that Prayuth's gerrymandered coalition already finds itself in, you have imbibed far too much of the kool aid my friend.

 

Why do you think the article you are responding to has been written?

Just a bored journalist making up stories to fill in his days?

 

Already the unstable and weak coalition has lost two votes (Abhisit and the BJT guy who refused to vote for Prayuth) and we're only one day in.

 

I love that you call it "Thailand's elected government" - shows you have a sense of humour.

At least try to get your facts right. 5 Democrats resigned, and were immediately replaced by next on the party list. How many Democrat votes did he lose? SFA

 

You don't know that journo's ask leading questions to write BS articles?

 

I, and the rest of the world, recognise Thailand's elected government. Your inability to face harsh reality is irrelevant

1 hour ago, Ozman52 said:

What a load of cobblers. Promises will be kept and the faction appeased with Deputy Minister positions or some other inducement.

Once Napoleon starts placing the pigs at the trough, he'll have to make everyone a DP to appease the hungry hordes of MPs.

1 minute ago, Ozman52 said:

At least try to get your facts right. 5 Democrats resigned, and were immediately replaced by next on the party list. How many Democrat votes did he lose? SFA

Why are people resigning?

Especially so early after an election.

You think this is a positive and indication of stability?

 

1 minute ago, Ozman52 said:

You don't know that journo's ask leading questions to write BS articles?

Multiple journalists, because the story is in multiple papers.

 

1 minute ago, Ozman52 said:

I, and the rest of the world, recognise Thailand's elected government. Your inability to face harsh reality is irrelevant

Some interesting hashtags trending on Thai twitter

 

#RIPTHAILAND (457,000 tweets)

 

and

 

#NOTMYPM

 

As for the rest of the world, the usual course of events is for other world leaders to call and congratulate newly elected Prime Ministers....would you care to give us a list of those who have contacted Prayuth?

46 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

House majority can also initiate a vote of no confidence forcing an election. 

From what I read in the BP a vote of no confidence does not necessarily lead to a dissolution of the house. If the information is accurate, Prayuth could be elected with the help of the Senate again, and another no confidence vote would not allowed before one year.

money lubricates the wheels of Thai coalitions

Most hurts me, that I have to pay for this monkey circus taxes.

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Palang Pracharat warned government in trouble if cabinet seat promises not kept

Oh really? In trouble? Well, what's the worst case scenario?

The coalition breaks apart, the government is dissolved. A Caretaker PM with a Caretaker Cabinet takes over. 

Do you really need three guesses who the Caretaker is going to be? And who will then be in trouble? 

Well, they've whored themselves out and, like any whore, they want their payment.

9 hours ago, Cadbury said:

In other words if Palang Pracharat deny them their promised privileged and elevated positions at the trough they will make life difficult for them. Presumably regardless of whether the consequences are good or bad for the country or the people.

Greed and selfishness is the priority in Thai politics.

Agree, could also be true that some of the Dems who quickly agreed to join the junta are having second thoughts as they have time to think more long-term. 

 

Whatever, seems pretty likely the whole mess is unworkable and will unravel soon enough.

4 hours ago, candide said:

From what I read in the BP a vote of no confidence does not necessarily lead to a dissolution of the house. If the information is accurate, Prayuth could be elected with the help of the Senate again, and another no confidence vote would not allowed before one year.

You right. The senate house will be again in the mix should there be a successful no confidence vote in Parliament. The combine houses will likely to re-appoint him as PM. However he will still be hamstrung by the lower house impasse. If the lower house play hardball, no bills and budget can be passed and the government can't function. Will need a coup or an election to break the impasse. If he step aside, it will also immensely help cool down the situation. 

Could all be true, but I'm hoping that the FF team, they have some clever people in their party and especially their # 2 who is a law professor can come up with some clever strategies to force a new strategy and instantly get these guys out. Go FF... 

Fully expect a bunch of ex generals to get the jobs


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7 hours ago, pornprong said:

Why are people resigning?

Especially so early after an election.

You think this is a positive and indication of stability?

 

Multiple journalists, because the story is in multiple papers.

 

Some interesting hashtags trending on Thai twitter

 

#RIPTHAILAND (457,000 tweets)

 

and

 

#NOTMYPM

 

As for the rest of the world, the usual course of events is for other world leaders to call and congratulate newly elected Prime Ministers....would you care to give us a list of those who have contacted Prayuth?

You have a bad habit of ignoring when your BS is called and answering with multiple questions. Prayuth lost zero votes, 1 BJT abstained in the PM vote but stayed in his party, 5 Democrats resigned because they did not agree with their party and were replaced. No, it is not an indication of stability, or instability.

"journo's" is a multiple, the apostrophe indicates abbreviation, not possession.

Your strawman hash tags are irrelevant, social media is a commonly used vehicle for propagating BS. See @realDonaldTrump

Your inability to recognise the difference between recognition and congratulations, I can only assume, is self-serving rather than ignorance. Rather than ask me who has congratulated, why don't YOU tell me who has refused to recognise the new Thai government?

 

BTW any future replies which ignore the questions asked in favour of more BS will be ignored

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

You right. The senate house will be again in the mix should there be a successful no confidence vote in Parliament. The combine houses will likely to re-appoint him as PM. However he will still be hamstrung by the lower house impasse. If the lower house play hardball, no bills and budget can be passed and the government can't function. Will need a coup or an election to break the impasse. If he step aside, it will also immensely help cool down the situation. 

Well, according to the same article and other sources, the Senate can also join in the budget voting and other activities when it is a matter of national interest. Of course a matter of national interest can be anything they want. Laws will be more difficult to pass but the NLA has hurriedly voted hundreds of laws before elections.

The only hope is that, in case it gets too messy, 'someone' may ask him to quit.....

16 hours ago, Ozman52 said:

You have a bad habit of ignoring when your BS is called and answering with multiple questions. Prayuth lost zero votes, 1 BJT abstained in the PM vote but stayed in his party, 5 Democrats resigned because they did not agree with their party and were replaced. No, it is not an indication of stability, or instability.

"journo's" is a multiple, the apostrophe indicates abbreviation, not possession.

Your strawman hash tags are irrelevant, social media is a commonly used vehicle for propagating BS. See @realDonaldTrump

Your inability to recognise the difference between recognition and congratulations, I can only assume, is self-serving rather than ignorance. Rather than ask me who has congratulated, why don't YOU tell me who has refused to recognise the new Thai government?

 

BTW any future replies which ignore the questions asked in favour of more BS will be ignored

Prayuth lost the vote of a BJT MP - it won't be coming back.

This guys' action also sets a precedent for others, namely, putting their electors ahead of the dodgy coalition

 

Prayuth also lost the vote of Abhisit.

Yes, Abhisit's replacement will be a Prayuth supporter and vote accordingly.

But Abhisit, peanut though he is, has a personal following.

Abhisit is the face the old elites, who don't like democracy, want to present to the world.

Prayuth has lost these people now.

Those that support Abhisit, both citizens and MP's are now more likely to break away.

Again, not good for stability of the dodgy coalition.

Losing Abhisit is not a positive, it is a large negative for Prayuth.

 

There are more articles in todays papers about the fragility of the dodgy coalition.

Now it's "economic czar" Somkid threatening to step down if the cabinet positions are not reclaimed by PPRP.

 

Just more "journo's" making crap up eh?

 

Twitter trends are not strawmmen, they are reflections of the zeitgeist.

Ignoring facts that do not support your views is delusional.

 

Not a single western country has offered congratulations to Prayuth.

Why would they all deny Prayuth this common courtesy?

Just one reason.

Take your time, have a think about, perhaps ask around for a bit of outside assistance, I'm sure eventually, you'll stumble across the answer.

 

Here's a little clue to help get you started.

 

http://www.humanrights.asia/news/forwarded-news/AHRC-FAT-001-2019/http://www.humanrights.asia/news/forwarded-news/AHRC-FAT-001-2019/

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 8, 20197 yr by pornprong

16 hours ago, candide said:

Well, according to the same article and other sources, the Senate can also join in the budget voting and other activities when it is a matter of national interest. Of course a matter of national interest can be anything they want. Laws will be more difficult to pass but the NLA has hurriedly voted hundreds of laws before elections.

The only hope is that, in case it gets too messy, 'someone' may ask him to quit.....

I am not too sure about the senate play as regards to the budget approval. Previous constitutions placed Parliament to be responsible for approving the budget. 

 

The budget approval will be the first obstacle for the government. If the budget can’t be agreed and voted down, the normal process will be a new election. This is happening in Spain with the impasse on the budget and new election will have to call upon.