5 minutes ago, losworld said:

Boris is nothing but a head fake to sucker the Brexit supporters then he will turn on them and kill it just watch...

Thus killing his 185 year old party and handing the palace of Westminster to Farage.

 

38 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

That like saying someone with nice hand writing is more intelligent and capable of better thinking!

 

Your ideas are in-sync with Victorian era educational thinking. 

Let us all know when you have finished your tirade, some of us want to get back to being nice to one another again.

36 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Thus killing his 185 year old party and handing the palace of Westminster to Farage.

 

I’m not sure the demise of the Tory party is anything to regret.

 

What political role would  ‘The Brexit Party’ would have once Johnson has buried Brexit?

this guy will bring britain to its knees.

 

no deal means all european workers have to move out..... guess britain without european workers

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Good lad.

 

Parliament is a disgrace. Not fit for purpose. 

....because it doesn't fit for YOUR purpose ? Ever heard about democracy? Or you prefer a dictatorship? 

6 hours ago, Denim said:

Don't worry. I doubt he will get the votes when the time comes regardless of polls.

He might get the votes but the price will be the downturn of economy and £.

4 hours ago, vogie said:

It seems to me that our economy will be in a safe pair of hands, maybe he will show the EU the £39 billion for photo shoot then retrieve it after the shot.

That is very short sighted. If you won't pay the bills EU would stop immediately subsidising projects started years ago already in UK. To make it easy for you to understand: a hospital without a roof or a road going to nowhere or a bridge half way crossing a river. 

Boris is a gambler and charlatan but not stupid. The move will come after being PM, following his buddy David Cameron. 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure the demise of the Tory party is anything to regret.

 

What political role would  ‘The Brexit Party’ would have once Johnson has buried Brexit?

Buried? The Brexit party will morph into a revised version of the Tory party c/w new name as soon as we're out and have regained control.

Edited June 13, 20197 yr by evadgib

31 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

....because it doesn't fit for YOUR purpose ? Ever heard about democracy? Or you prefer a dictatorship? 

Yes, the referendum was an excellent example of Democracy. A huge turnout, Leave won.

 

Parliament then conspiring to block leaving is an excellent example of a failing Democracy. So if they continue to attempt to block the implementation of the democratic vote then I am all in favour of prorogation. Parliament pitting themselves against the people (the source of their legitimacy) is a failure of the UK's democratic system.

 

You think allowing Parliament to overturn the largest democratic exercise in British history is democratic? Going against their own manifesto on which they were elected? Against the legislation they themselves enacted? 

 

 

 

Edited June 13, 20197 yr by JonnyF

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure the demise of the Tory party is anything to regret.

 

What political role would  ‘The Brexit Party’ would have once Johnson has buried Brexit?

Good work Chomper but with Grouse and Tebee gone I think this has fast become a Leavers Circle Jerk - let them eat the biscuit first! And for that reason, I'm out. 

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Yes, the referendum was an excellent example of Democracy. A huge turnout, Leave won.

 

Parliament then conspiring to block leaving is an excellent example of a failing Democracy. So if they continue to attempt to block the implementation of the democratic vote then I am all in favour of prorogation. Parliament pitting themselves against the people (the source of their legitimacy) is a failure of the UK's democratic system.

 

You think allowing Parliament to overturn the largest democratic exercise in British history is democratic? Going against their own manifesto on which they were elected? Against the legislation they themselves enacted? 

 

 

 

Where is your evidence that Parliament has blocked Brexit?

19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Yes, the referendum was an excellent example of Democracy. A huge turnout, Leave won.

 

Parliament then conspiring to block leaving is an excellent example of a failing Democracy. So if they continue to attempt to block the implementation of the democratic vote then I am all in favour of prorogation. Parliament pitting themselves against the people (the source of their legitimacy) is a failure of the UK's democratic system.

 

You think allowing Parliament to overturn the largest democratic exercise in British history is democratic? Going against their own manifesto on which they were elected? Against the legislation they themselves enacted? 

 

 

 

After more than 3 years more facts are on the table in order to review 

6 hours ago, evadgib said:

I like ol' BJ but I'm far from convinced that he is right for the job or able to pull it off. I can see McVey heading in Farages direction although perhaps not until a GE; & others (Raab? Baker?) might follow suit.

All guesswork of course as I currently have no idea where this is going.

I will be happy with any brexiteer who is willing to table a no deal if required. I like McVey too. Would be a great Home secretary for me. Steve Baker is awesome but not in this leadership race. So i think it will be Johnson and Hunt that rhymes with...... Hopefully then the brexiteers will rally around Johnson.

2 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

I will be happy with any brexiteer who is willing to table a no deal if required. I like McVey too. Would be a great Home secretary for me. Steve Baker is awesome but not in this leadership race. So i think it will be Johnson and Hunt that rhymes with...... Hopefully then the brexiteers will rally around Johnson.

That's quite frightening, given a Johnson/Hunt relationship will mirror the one between B-liar & Broon.

Boris 114 votes.

Leadsom, McVey and Harper out.

Edited June 13, 20197 yr by vogie

11 minutes ago, vogie said:

Boris 114 votes.

Leadsom, McVey and Harper out.

Hopefully Leadsom and McVey's votes will go to Johnson. I can hear the remainers bricking it at this very moment.

Just now, Laughing Gravy said:

Hopefully Leadsom and McVey's votes will go to Johnson. I can hear the remainers bricking it at this very moment.

I'm not quite sure why Brexiteers putting their faith in a self serving serial liar and U-turn specialist would cause Remainers to 'brick it'. 

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

That's quite frightening, given a Johnson/Hunt relationship will mirror the one between B-liar & Broon.

It is looking that way after the vote. Personally I don't like Hunt but I believe it will be Johnson 1 and Hunt 2.

3 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Hopefully Leadsom and McVey's votes will go to Johnson. I can hear the remainers bricking it at this very moment.

Teresers bag lady is out...  

1 minute ago, Basil B said:

Teresers bag lady is out...  

Bless still a brexiteer will win. I guess it hurts.

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not sure the demise of the Tory party is anything to regret.

 

What political role would  ‘The Brexit Party’ would have once Johnson has buried Brexit?

Brexit 2

10 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

That is very short sighted. If you won't pay the bills EU would stop immediately subsidising projects started years ago already in UK. To make it easy for you to understand: a hospital without a roof or a road going to nowhere or a bridge half way crossing a river. 

Boris is a gambler and charlatan but not stupid. The move will come after being PM, following his buddy David Cameron. 

£39 billion would cover anything that the EU may subsidising for at least 10 years. Much of that money is wasted anyway.

10 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Yes, the referendum was an excellent example of Democracy. A huge turnout, Leave won.

 

Parliament then conspiring to block leaving is an excellent example of a failing Democracy. So if they continue to attempt to block the implementation of the democratic vote then I am all in favour of prorogation. Parliament pitting themselves against the people (the source of their legitimacy) is a failure of the UK's democratic system.

 

You think allowing Parliament to overturn the largest democratic exercise in British history is democratic? Going against their own manifesto on which they were elected? Against the legislation they themselves enacted? 

 

 

 

Well said there!

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

£39 billion would cover anything that the EU may subsidising for at least 10 years. Much of that money is wasted anyway.

That's nonsense. You are participating in a lot of EU Programs, science, Military, health aso. 

7 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

That's nonsense. You are participating in a lot of EU Programs, science, Military, health aso. 

No it's not. I'm talking about the so-called subsidies into the UK from the EU "budget", which is our money in the first place.

3 hours ago, nauseus said:

No it's not. I'm talking about the so-called subsidies into the UK from the EU "budget", which is our money in the first place.

If you won't get that money ask your farmers...... but sure you are not interested because living in Thailand. You are talking a lot but.... 

23 hours ago, Jerry787 said:

this guy will bring britain to its knees.

 

no deal means all european workers have to move out..... guess britain without european workers

How did you manage to figure that out?

On 6/13/2019 at 6:27 AM, helpisgood said:

Also, as I understand it, the new PM is being decided by a small minority of the total electorate. 

All governments are elected by a small majority of the electorate.

That's how democracy works. In the case of this Conservative government 20% of the electorate.

 

The more parties there are, the less a percentage votes for the winner.

(By the way electorate means all those entitled to vote, total is included in the word.)

50 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

If you won't get that money ask your farmers...... but sure you are not interested because living in Thailand. You are talking a lot but.... 

Make sense can you?

17 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Bless still a brexiteer will win. I guess it hurts.

I thought it was Boris who was going to win?

 

https://twitter.com/jonlis1/status/1139067505094402049

 

 

 

Edited June 14, 20197 yr by RuamRudy