UK PM candidate Johnson increases support in third round of leadership contest

[Justgrazing]

5 hours ago, blazes said:

I wonder how many on this thread saw the BBC shambolic presentation.  I did, and was appalled at the presenter, one of the worst hags I have ever seen on tv, who demonstrated the total anti-Brexit bias of the BBC.  She never allowed Johnson to speak more than ten seconds (5?) before literally shouting him down.

Ironically, her arrogant ignorant shouting down of Johnson actually helped him through the hour, since he did not get to finish any of his answers and thus could not be judged as to whether he was talking ba££ocks or not!!!

Seen it and concur .. E M was the ring mistress and exemplifies everything that is pony & trap about the Beeb .. And the rival commercial channels have been quick to stick the boot in .. Damned right too the BBC are an anachronism that should be put to market to fend for thereselves rather than the arm up the back extortion of the license fee .. and the so called " debate " did absolutely nothing to enhance the quant notion that they are part of UK fabric that should retained in its present guise at all costs .. 

[evadgib]

10 minutes ago, tebee said:

No one can deliver the undeliverable 

With 'No Deal' being the default position I can't see why not; furthermore a BB pact is in the offing (Boris/Brexit party).

[evadgib]

10 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

Seen it and concur .. E M was the ring mistress and exemplifies everything that is pony & trap about the Beeb .. And the rival commercial channels have been quick to stick the boot in .. Damned right too the BBC are an anachronism that should be put to market to fend for thereselves rather than the arm up the back extortion of the license fee .. and the so called " debate " did absolutely nothing to enhance the quant notion that they are part of UK fabric that should retained in its present guise at all costs .. 

It broke all the rules and has been widely slated in all press and news outlets as a result.

[Chomper Higgot]

52 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I think this is it Dick.

 

There are plenty more.

 

He's been busy.

 

I've watched that.

 

Can someone please point out what you believe to 'Propaganda'. (Omit anything said by Farage).

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, evadgib said:

It broke all the rules and has been widely slated in all press and news outlets as a result.

Let me guess, the Sun, Daily Mail, Express.... 

[evadgib]

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let me guess, the Sun, Daily Mail, Express.... 

Baiting/more Steriotype than Currys.

[Baerboxer]

7 hours ago, jesimps said:

Which lying clown do you prefer? I don't care which idiot is in charge as long as he takes us out of the EU. Blow the pound, democracy is at stake here. The exchange rate's turning me into a pauper, but I stand by my principles.

 

Democracy - cobblers! Unless someone changed the UK constitution overnight.

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

With 'No Deal' being the default position I can't see why not; furthermore a BB pact is in the offing (Boris/Brexit party).

 

That'll be good the egotistical maniac Boris, he of no plan whose still not got one and never will have teamed up with the egotistical maniac Farage, the one trick pony who thought he'd got a job for life till his bluff was called and exposed him as also having no plan and no ability for formulate one.

 

Still, they're both really good at pissing all the other countries' leaders off! 

 

Dream Team!

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, tebee said:

No one can deliver the undeliverable 

 

 

 

I used to live just round the corner from Ken Clarke. My lad was his paper-boy. Tight bugger never gave a Christmas tip - just wished Merry Christmas!

 

But he's certainly got Boris well and truly weighed up.

 

 

[evadgib]

13 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

That'll be good the egotistical maniac Boris, he of no plan whose still not got one and never will have teamed up with the egotistical maniac Farage, the one trick pony who thought he'd got a job for life till his bluff was called and exposed him as also having no plan and no ability for formulate one.

 

Still, they're both really good at pissing all the other countries' leaders off! 

 

Dream Team!

Keep an eye on the ball:

 

[tebee]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

With 'No Deal' being the default position I can't see why not; furthermore a BB pact is in the offing (Boris/Brexit party).

As Brexitextermists have made no deal the only acceptable option it's become politically unobtainable. 

 

It will cause chaos and cause many people to lose their jobs. Is any party that delivers that going to get elected again?

[vogie]

9 minutes ago, tebee said:

As Brexitextermists have made no deal the only acceptable option it's become politically unobtainable. 

 

It will cause chaos and cause many people to lose their jobs. Is any party that delivers that going to get elected again?

If the Tories don't deliver Brexit one way or another they won't get elected again, so in effect they have nothing to lose, but plenty to gain.

[evadgib]

18 minutes ago, tebee said:

As Brexitextermists have made no deal the only acceptable option it's become politically unobtainable. 

 

It will cause chaos and cause many people to lose their jobs. Is any party that delivers that going to get elected again?

As I've said before the Tories are toast and will be replaced by the Brexit party under a new name when all is done and dusted.

[mommysboy]

It's good that the Tory party is massing around a true blue candidate. We see them for what they are good and bad.  I hope Labour will do the same.

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, stephenterry said:

From what I understand the EU said the best deal the UK could get was to remain in the EU. Anything less than that is by definition, inferior - including a no-deal. 

 

But the key 'fault' is firmly at the feet of the UK Tory government who chose this route, and caused the effect. with luck, they'll be decimated at the next GE.  

That the EU regard anything else apart from the EU itself as inferior, is certainly not the fault of any national government. It is one of many faults of the EU and it can be described as vain pomposity.

 

Key fault my toot.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I've watched that.

 

Can someone please point out what you believe to 'Propaganda'. (Omit anything said by Farage).

You have misquoted me, so I will ignore you, so there. 

[evadgib]

8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

That the EU regard anything else apart from the EU itself as inferior, is certainly not the fault of any national government. It is one of many faults of the EU and it can be described as vain pomposity.

 

Key fault my toot.

If EU were transparent and fully accountable UK would never have voted to leave.

[OneMoreFarang]

I just read this interesting article:

 

No-deal Brexit would scupper new PM's spending plans – Hammond
Chancellor to warn leadership candidates they can leave with no deal or spend, but not both
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/19/hammond-no-deal-brexit-will-quash-new-pms-spending-plans

 

Hammond is to say: “The question to the candidates is not ‘what is your plan?’ but ‘what is your plan B? If your plan A is undeliverable not having a plan B is like not having a plan at all. So, the candidates need to be honest with the public.

 

[geoffbezoz]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I just read this interesting article:

 

No-deal Brexit would scupper new PM's spending plans – Hammond
Chancellor to warn leadership candidates they can leave with no deal or spend, but not both
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/19/hammond-no-deal-brexit-will-quash-new-pms-spending-plans

 

Hammond is to say: “The question to the candidates is not ‘what is your plan?’ but ‘what is your plan B? If your plan A is undeliverable not having a plan B is like not having a plan at all. So, the candidates need to be honest with the public.

 

I think asking the candidates to be honest with the public now is like completing the full circle back to why they were not honest during the pre Brexit referendum hustings

[OneMoreFarang]

20 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:

I think asking the candidates to be honest with the public now is like completing the full circle back to why they were not honest during the pre Brexit referendum hustings

That's a good point.

It reminds me of some people in Thailand who lost lots of money in this wonderful one-time-only business opportunity. Some of them just never want to admit that it was a scam form the very beginning. They still dream about the contract and the commission which is just around the corner - since years...

[tebee]

 

[Mavideol]

IF he's elected the UK will be governed by a US citizen, now understand why Trump liked him....

[stephenterry]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

That the EU regard anything else apart from the EU itself as inferior, is certainly not the fault of any national government. It is one of many faults of the EU and it can be described as vain pomposity.

 

Key fault my toot.

And the UK government isn't a vain pomposity expecting every country to kowtow to them? I hope they get what they deserve - the old etonian government, that is. Being decimated and rejected wherever they go. 

[stephenterry]

6 hours ago, evadgib said:

If EU were transparent and fully accountable UK would never have voted to leave.

And you consider the UK is transparent and fully accountable?

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, stephenterry said:

And the UK government isn't a vain pomposity expecting every country to kowtow to them? I hope they get what they deserve - the old etonian government, that is. Being decimated and rejected wherever they go. 

The UK are certainly not expecting any kowtows. Where do you get this stuff?

 

Objection overruled. Case dismissed. Court adjourned. Beer o'clock.

[stephenterry]

No point responding to me tonight. I'm finished.  

[nauseus]

17 hours ago, stephenterry said:

And you consider the UK is transparent and fully accountable?

 

[Mavideol]

I can't understand why the brexiters think the UK will be better alone than with the EU 27, always heard the union makes the force or makes us strong,  maybe in the UK it's contrary?

[JAG]

10 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

BTW the Independent is possibly the most bias piece of trash on the newspaper stands.

Hasn't been on the newstands for quite a while now - it's sales were so bad that it was the first national to go online. Many of it's journalists/contributors now are "internet correspondents". Read it and it shows - hence the bias. It is certainly not independent! When it was first published I used to read it quite regularly, it was independent, if rather smug high minded and self righteous. That was ditched early on (the independence that is - the rest remained).

 

The Guardian only survives because it is financed by Autotrader...

 

I wonder how the BBC will find slots for all the Guardian's journalists ( I use the term loosely) when it finally goes belly up?

 

Must be a worry for the Blessed Polly Toynbee! One of the more engaging of "Boris stories" is that he earned her undying enmity by singing "Polly Put The Kettle On" to that hypocritical champagne socialist whilst celebrating (liquidly) his victory over Ken Livingstone as Mayor of London. He can't be all bad...

Edited June 20, 2019 by JAG

[JAG]

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I just read this interesting article:

 

No-deal Brexit would scupper new PM's spending plans – Hammond
Chancellor to warn leadership candidates they can leave with no deal or spend, but not both
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/19/hammond-no-deal-brexit-will-quash-new-pms-spending-plans

 

Hammond is to say: “The question to the candidates is not ‘what is your plan?’ but ‘what is your plan B? If your plan A is undeliverable not having a plan B is like not having a plan at all. So, the candidates need to be honest with the public.

 

I rather doubt that Hammond ( the "eminence grise" of remainers) will still be Chancellor, who ever wins the Tory leadership contest, so it means nothing...