CG1 Blue Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, tebee said: As a remaniner, of the two, I'd prefer Boris as I reckon he's more likely to go back on his word, Hunt can be a stubborn fool and dig his heels in - remember the junior doctors ? And I think Boriss is more likely to result in an early GE. As a Leaver my concern with Hunt is that he's capable of making an extremely unpopular and controversial decisions and take all the flack for it, like he did with the junior doctors. As thick skinned as they come! So if he decided we have to revoke article 50, or have a 2nd ref he'd just go ahead. My hope is that Boris appoints smart and strong people around him to get the job done. Without them he'd be useless. I've rarely heard a politician who can speak for so long without actually saying anything. Edited June 23, 2019 by CG1 Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said: As a Leaver my concern with Hunt is that he's capable of making an extremely unpopular and controversial decision and take all the flack for it, like he did with the junior doctors. As thick skinned as they come! So if he decided we have to revoke article 50, or have a 2nd ref he'd just go ahead. My hope is that Boris appoints smart and strong people around him to get the job done. Without them he'd be useless. I've rarely heard a politician who can speak for so long without actually saying anything. Funny how we both look at the personalities and past performance of these two from two different perspectives and come to opposing concusions about their likely performance. maybe we should just agree that neither can be trusted ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CG1 Blue Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 32 minutes ago, tebee said: Funny how we both look at the personalities and past performance of these two from two different perspectives and come to opposing concusions about their likely performance. maybe we should just agree that neither can be trusted ! Sad but true! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said: Japan and Canada have FTAs, and they don't have to accept EU rules and supremacy of the EU courts. https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2017/04/26/why-the-european-court-of-justice-isnt-going-away/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, simple1 said: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2017/04/26/why-the-european-court-of-justice-isnt-going-away/ I haven't found a current update during a cursory search but will be most surprized if UK's uncoupling doesn't include full severance of anything that isn't fully controlled from within. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Bo-jo is either a liar or really has no understanding of how these things work. Neithers is a good look for a future PM Boris was born into this business, early schooled in Brussels, first time as MP 18 years ago, twice London Mayor, hot favourite for PM, and you think he has no idea how these things work?More than you and your mate Graham Somebody. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Loiner said: Boris was born into this business, early schooled in Brussels, first time as MP 18 years ago, twice London Mayor, hot favourite for PM, and you think he has no idea how these things work? More than you and your mate Graham Somebody. Non of which would preclude him from being a liar, which incidentally we have plenty of evidence of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 Non of which would preclude him from being a liar, which incidentally we have plenty of evidence of. Show me a politician who says he’s not a liar and I’ll show you a liar. You people are getting so self-righteous and up yourselves about nothing, it must hurt a bit.I’ll be very happy for Boris to lie, cheat, trick and deceive our way out of the EU and the Remainer created impasse. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Loiner said: Show me a politician who says he’s not a liar and I’ll show you a liar. You people are getting so self-righteous and up yourselves about nothing, it must hurt a bit. I’ll be very happy for Boris to lie, cheat, trick and deceive our way out of the EU and the Remainer created impasse. Be careful. There's a fair chance he's lying to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Be careful. There's a fair chance he's lying to you. All those Remainers will be. You may not have noticed it though. Some deeper national idiosyncrasies that you may not be aware of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Loiner said: All those Remainers will be. You may not have noticed it though. Some deeper national idiosyncrasies that you may not be aware of. The subject under discussion is not your completely baseless assumptions about my understanding of national idiosyncrasies. Do try to stick to the subject under discussion old chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Baiting, inflammatory post and reply removed. Please keep it civil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 10 hours ago, tebee said: Bo-jo is either a liar or really has no understanding of how these things work. Neithers is a good look for a future PM He's both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Loiner said: Boris was born into this business, early schooled in Brussels, first time as MP 18 years ago, twice London Mayor, hot favourite for PM, and you think he has no idea how these things work? More than you and your mate Graham Somebody. So it's not just me who thinks this...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 10 hours ago, evadgib said: I haven't found a current update during a cursory search but will be most surprized if UK's uncoupling doesn't include full severance of anything that isn't fully controlled from within. Maybe so, but look how long a FTA between Canada and EU took to complete, seven years, even with a major exclusion, services, which would be critical for the UK to include. https://www.investec.com/en_gb/focus/brexit/what-does-a-hard-brexit-mean.html Personally I find it extraordinary people are still supporting BJ for PM now that his lies and links to the Far Right, Bannon, have been exposed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, simple1 said: I find it extraordinary people are still supporting BJ I've always been in favour of BJs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapraIbex Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Loiner said: Boris was born into this business, early schooled in Brussels, first time as MP 18 years ago, twice London Mayor, hot favourite for PM, and you think he has no idea how these things work? Most politicians are liars! Carrier politicians are schooled to tell lies; And being out of touch with the ordinary/common man is one of their distinguished feature! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 29 minutes ago, CapraIbex said: Carrier politicians Related to Carrier Pigeons? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said: Related to Carrier Pigeons? aren't all politicians related to carrier pigeons? Everywhere they go they leave a mess and a lot of sh*t! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapraIbex Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said: Related to Carrier Pigeons? whoops-a-daisy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapraIbex Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, wayned said: aren't all politicians related to carrier pigeons? Everywhere they go they leave a mess and a lot of sh*t! Wonderful analogy (this should've been my response). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Misty Posted June 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2019 19 hours ago, simple1 said: Just as concerning is BJ's lies regarding his liaison with Bannon. IMO anyone communicating with Bannon for advice / support is not suitable to be in a leadership position in HMG. https://www.dw.com/en/boris-johnsons-alleged-ties-with-steve-bannon-exposed/a-49316785 Bannon, Brexit, Breitbart, Cambridge Analytica, Mercers... concerning that these seem to be linked https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-40423629/did-cambridge-analytica-play-a-role-in-the-eu-referendum 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted June 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) I'd vote for Satan to be PM if I thought he could get us out of the EU by 31st October. Do I care if Boris beats his gf unconscious every night? not really. Presumably if she didn't like it, she could have left with the police. Edited June 24, 2019 by BritManToo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted June 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2019 I'd vote for Satan to be PM if I thought he could get us out of the EU by 31st October.#metoo He wouldn’t be any worse than the current PM and would run rings around the EU. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotsira Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 54 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I'd vote for Satan to be PM if I thought he could get us out of the EU by 31st October. Nobody is capable of achieving that by 31st Oct, not even God almighty. This is just a continuation of the pantomime that is Brexit, scripted by the EU & UK establishment. Let's not forget the summer holidays are approaching, everyone will go on holiday soon after the next PM will be elected. Then, when they all return in September, the EU will start their Hearings of Commissioners to elect a new Commission President. That will take things to middle of October. Nobody will talk to the new UK PM until after that is completed. In the meantime, the UK Parliament will vote against a no deal Brexit, and the pantomime continues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThaiBunny Posted June 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2019 Just now, sotsira said: In the meantime, the UK Parliament will vote against a no deal Brexit, and the pantomime continues. The EU has given the UK an extension until 31/10, at which point the UK automatically is no longer a member of the EU. The only pantomime is UK MPs believing that what they do has any effect 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted June 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sotsira said: This is just a continuation of the pantomime that is Brexit, scripted by the EU & UK establishment. You may be right, but I can't see any reason why Boris would be throwing his MP seat/career away. If he fails to bring Brexit by 31 October for whatever reason, he'll be unelectable ever again. So he must think he has a chance of pulling it off. And Farage is waiting eagerly in the wings for a Conservative Brexit fail. Edited June 24, 2019 by BritManToo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThaiBunny Posted June 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, BritManToo said: If he fails to bring Brexit by 31 October for whatever reason, he'll be unelectable ever again Since Brexit is automatic on 31/10 he's already a success - unless you mean a re-negotiated Brexit agreement 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, BritManToo said: he'll be undetectable ever again. He can always go to Mars and hunt for Elvis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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