Popular Post dick dasterdly Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, stephenterry said: It seems like every few days there's a similar post by JF on the same tiring subject and the same usual responses. So what if Johnson says this or that - it might wash with Tory voters, but at the end of the day if he stuck to a no-deal, he would be ousted from a PM role by parliament and a GE called. Without a doubt, a no-deal brexit would cause irreplacable damage to the UK economy and the pound would materially devalue overnight. No UK parliament would sanction that. it just ain't going to happen. If Johnson aims to leave, he'll have to get the WAG past parliament, and if it's not the ideal deal, that's Tough Teety. Accept it, and hope the government gets on with trying to repair the backlash situation that brexit would cause. As for moving forward, that's another cloud cuckoo-land ideological scenario with no realistic ending or reality built in. "If Johnson aims to leave, he'll have to get the WAG past parliament, and if it's not the ideal deal, that's Tough Teety." You're seriously think and hope that the eu/may surrender treaty will be passed by the uk parliament? Silly question, of course you do...... Edit - To look on the bright side, even brit. remainers recognise the surrender treaty as the worst possible option! Edited June 25, 2019 by dick dasterdly 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Why are you asking me? Farage has a history of unexplained meetings. With milk shakes? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, stephenterry said: The main issue should not be about trade, because the UK has numerous existing trade deals in place, that are comprehensive enough to keep the UK populous in candy for the rest of their natural, including goods from China and the US now sold in the UK. It's a total red herring advanced by ERG extremists like Rees-Mogg, whose only rationale is that they would make money from their emerging markets hedge funds if the Uk had to seek trades from these economies. Bottom line it's financial politics at play, here. Of course the "main issue" should be about trade, which is why so many of us are wondering why both the uk and eu govts. are putting this at the bottom of the 'negotiating ????' list..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, stephenterry said: ???????????? Thank you for directing me to Loiner's post so that I could give it a 'like'. Turns out I'd missed an entire page! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomacht8 Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 "Let me tell you, there are abundant, abundant technical fixes that can be introduced to make sure that you don't have to have checks at the border," Johnson said Ok Boris. Name the companies that have such a technology, and are able to build something in 130 days. Also the timeline for coordinating discussions with Ireland and the EU. Also information about the investment costs and cost allocations would be nice. Also information about the personal needs and training times for the operator staff. Otherwise, it is only hot propaganda air al a Boris. I just can not believe that the majority of Britons believe his gibberish. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: I think a No Deal scenario is pretty much built into the value now. It's become increasingly likely and FX markets don't tend to wait until the day the event happens. There is room for maybe a max of 10% more devaluation in my opinion. UK exports will be fantastically competitive for a few months (it will be a great time to buy the already seriously undervalued pound) and then when everyone realizes that the sky hasn't fallen and that the UK can successfully operate as a sovereign state it will start to regain the losses that Project Fear and a dysfunctional Parliament has so greatly contributed to. Remember, it's the uncertainty that is causing the weak pound, not Brexit. Brexit has not happened yet. 'Leaving the eu' was the reason why sterling crashed within the first 24 hours. Not something appreciated or expected by the money markets. Why has sterling further since? Install your own reason ????. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThaiBunny Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, dick dasterdly said: 'Leaving the eu' was the reason why sterling crashed within the first 24 hours. Not something appreciated or expected by the money markets. On the other hand the FTSE experienced a slight dip but subsequently powered ahead 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dick dasterdly Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, vogie said: Peterborough can be classed as 'Work in Progress' Quite. Learning that nearly 30% of the Peterborough votes were postal votes - certainly shocked me! Edited June 25, 2019 by dick dasterdly 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Not a scholar of form then. He’s had seven failed attempts to enter Parliament as an MP, and hid in the toilets at Peterborough when it became clear that 43,000 former Leave voters had gone AWOL. Friendly advice, don’t bet with money you can’t afford to loose. "Friendly advice, don’t bet with money you can’t afford to loose." Why do you so frequently resort to (misspelt) insults? Edited June 25, 2019 by dick dasterdly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Boris has the answers for brxit, but they are invisible to those who are unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent... Adapted from "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Blustering Boris! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kwasaki Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 56 minutes ago, vogie said: Some people are hoping that the UK will be brought to it's knees, those people don't know the UK. The EU hopes for sure, as said they will not negotiate further on TM deal so all that's left is a no deal leave in Oct '19 and Germany will just have to take bigger burden on there shoulders, looks like Italy is Germany's next headache. Trump can have financial war so can Boris, no deal no money, thats handy suit's me. ???? No time elections Boris just stall it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Basil B said: Boris has the answers for brxit, but they are invisible to those who are unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent... Adapted from "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen. The amount of internet chatter every time Boris Johnsons name or a new thread is started is a sure indication that remainers are very worried about his capabilities. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dick dasterdly Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Basil B said: Boris has the answers for brxit, but they are invisible to those who are unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent... Adapted from "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen. Perhaps you can post something of substance, rather than nothing other than insults directed against those with whom you disagree? But then again, perhaps not as your first sentence contradicts itself..... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Basil B Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, vogie said: The amount of internet chatter every time Boris Johnsons name or a new thread is started is a sure indication that remainers are very worried about his capabilities. Everybody should be worried... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, vogie said: The amount of internet chatter every time Boris Johnsons name or a new thread is started is a sure indication that remainers are very worried about his capabilities. No there just trying to identify if he has even one capability worthy of note. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: 13 minutes ago, Basil B said: Boris has the answers for brxit, but they are invisible to those who are unfit for their positions, stupid, or incompetent... Adapted from "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen. Perhaps you can post something of substance, rather than nothing other than insults directed against those with whom you disagree? But then again, perhaps not as your first sentence contradicts itself..... You mean like why Johnson will not do head to head interview with Hunt until most Tory member will have already voted. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said: No there just trying to identify if he has even one capability worthy of note. People with biases quite often can't see the wood for the trees. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Basil B said: You mean like why Johnson will not do head to head interview with Hunt until most Tory member will have already voted. Nah Boris has no time for losers, girlfriend is next. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, vogie said: People with biases quite often can't see the wood for the trees. Well you should know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Kwasaki said: Nah Boris has no time for losers, girlfriend is next. ???? I think you are right, Carrie Symonds will ditch Boris the loser as soon as Hunt becomes selected as PM. She can then take some time out to refurbish her home that Boris wrecked. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sniggie Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, vogie said: My monies on Nigel Farage. Please stop. I can only stand so much laughing in one day! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vogie Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, sniggie said: Please stop. I can only stand so much laughing in one day! Try reading the post directly above yours, if that doesn't give you a thromby nowt will. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 A very damning critique by Max Hastings of BJ. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said: I think you are right, Carrie Symonds will ditch Boris the loser as soon as Hunt becomes selected as PM. She can then take some time out to refurbish her home that Boris wrecked. Nah !! Boris 160 votes, and Hunt 77 votes who my friend working in UK NHS changes the H for a C. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 6 hours ago, bannork said: So Johnson thinks the EU will blink when he shows he's willing to play the no deal card. From statements by leading figures in the French, Dutch and Irish governments the last few months that belief seems to be mistaken. In addition, there have been repeated assertions by EU leaders that the deal offered to May was not open to further negotiation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post damascase Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, puipuitom said: Shouldn’t you include the source? Cartoonist Jos Collignon in today’s Dutch De Volkskrant. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petemoss Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, ThaiBunny said: On the other hand the FTSE experienced a slight dip but subsequently powered ahead Because 80% of the investments on the stock exchange arn't based in the UK. Therefore, the stock exchange fluctuations are based more on the global economy than the UK economy. Also a drop of 1200 points in the 6 months after the vote is hardly a "slight dip". 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, petemoss said: Because 80% of the investments on the stock exchange arn't based in the UK. Therefore, the stock exchange fluctuations are based more on the global economy than the UK economy. Also a drop of 1200 points in the 6 months after the vote is hardly a "slight dip". Added to which the earnings overseas are at a higher relative value against a falling pound. Hence the stock price is higher when priced on the FTSE as the pound slides. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post evadgib Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said: Quite. Learning that nearly 30% of the Peterborough votes were postal votes - certainly shocked me! Ol' Stomper keeps banging that drum not realising a legal challenge was very publicly launched yesterday that will turn the result on its head. Edited June 25, 2019 by evadgib 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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