Joinaman Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: You miss my point. I doubt very much Brexit will happen by October 1st. (Actually ever). I’m looking forward to hearing who Brexiteers will blame, because of course it will have to be somebody else’s fault. Just maybe it would be something to do with the Remoaners ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: One cannot claim solid or growing support for Brexit when 43,000 people who voted Leave fail to show up to vote for the Brexit Party in a widely publicized by-election. 43,000 is the missing number. Find that link yet? So you still don't understand the different dynamics in a UK by-election versus a binary referendum, despite myself and others trying to help you understand. Never mind. Sorry, what link are you asking me to search for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joinaman Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 hours ago, tomacht8 said: Let me tell you, there are abundant, abundant technical fixes that can be introduced to make sure that you don't have to have checks at the border," Johnson said. Trade experts have expressed scepticism that technology can solve the border problem, at least in the near term. Last week, Irish foreign minister Simon Coveney said the contenders to become Britain's prime minister had offered solutions "simply not based on reality. Wishful thinking and fantasy formations. The loss of reality of some UK politicians is frightening. The development and implementation of such technology takes many years. Just the discussion about the cost distribution would take some years. And next week, the UK is building its first trading post on Mars. And how long has the EU been looking and preparing for this , knowing that technology can work and preparing for it if a no deal They admitt ed they can do it, they have the technology to do so, but still keep harping on about a hard border, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joinaman Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 hours ago, tomacht8 said: "Let me tell you, there are abundant, abundant technical fixes that can be introduced to make sure that you don't have to have checks at the border," Johnson said Ok Boris. Name the companies that have such a technology, and are able to build something in 130 days. Also the timeline for coordinating discussions with Ireland and the EU. Also information about the investment costs and cost allocations would be nice. Also information about the personal needs and training times for the operator staff. Otherwise, it is only hot propaganda air al a Boris. I just can not believe that the majority of Britons believe his gibberish. But if we leave with a no deal, who will impose ant sort of hard or soft border, us or the EU ? They are already sorting out soft border options because they know a hard border is too expensive and too long a timescale to implement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joinaman Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, stephenterry said: With imminent climate change affecting Blighty it's a possibility that banana plantations could be grown in Kent to feed the humungus backlog of lorry drivers on the M20 awaiting customs passage into Dover. so would be a bit like the motorway truck parks that we keep getting while in the EU ?? Will you also supply banana to the French too ?, and all the other countries queuing up in the EU to bring all their goods that they are so desperate to sell to the UK ? They have already admitted that , yes there will be some delays, but limited delays, and truckers will be using other ports to minimize disruption too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joinaman Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, bristolboy said: I think that's a fair summation of the Brexiters approach. Don't start thinking about what you want until after you've left. And then when you find out you aren't going to get it... Sounds like the remoaners too They keep harping on about how good it is for us in the EU, with no idea what will happen in the next few years if we stay in Have you read the Lisbon treaty, > do you know what exactly what rights we are giving up to the EU in the next few years ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joinaman Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, CNXexpat said: You are leaving since how long? 2 years. After you left you can make good deals with other nations for sure, by example with Mr. America first or your former colony India which you treated so well. I am sure they all are waiting to make amazing deals with GREAT Britain. Lol. But at least we wont be licking someones arse while implementing the Lisbon treated that we were never asked about, or offered any say on it either Remoaners will believe that the EU is gunna think about the poor old brits and make life much cheaper and easier for us all, Wont they ? They will lower our payments, allow us to make our own laws, allow us fishing rights, allow us to change immigration laws, etc, etc, Wont they ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joinaman Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, damascase said: ........with your full agreement and cooperation, so don’t complain. Perhaps you could let us know when we, the people of the UK, agreed to these changes, when we were asked if we wanted these changes, and if we were told the truth about these changes ?? Of course not, we have been lied to since day one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 hours ago, damascase said: Shouldn’t you include the source? Cartoonist Jos Collignon in today’s Dutch De Volkskrant. You are completely right. Marvellous cartoons, especially about Brexit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, vogie said: Eureka, by George I think he's got it. BTW we joined a golf club, the EU changed it to a tennis club. Maybe time to read and learn some of British history ? EU Treaty: Britain ratifies EU Treaty https://www.telegraph.co.uk/.../EU-Treaty-Britain-ratifies-EU-Trea... Before that, all is negociated and signed buy the prime ministers of all member states, incl of the U.K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, vogie said: Are you following the Brexit debacle, we are leaving. We are following the democratic majority that decided to leave. are leaving… Yhe Bristish try that already for 3 years, but..cannot come to a conclusion WHICH leave… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 10 hours ago, evadgib said: This isn't an election and they are having some debates, just not quite as many as the propped-up underdog & supporters are trying to engineer. Absolutely yes. Jeremy Hunt is desperate to set an agenda, an agenda which will encompass just about bleeding anything but Brexit. He knows that he is not trusted on Brexit by the people whose votes will choose the next leader of the Tory Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, stephenterry said: Point of correction. The democratic majority did not decide to leave. The Tory government made the decision to leave based on the referendum outcome. Whether that was a democratic decision or not, is debatable. However parliament passed it, and it would be up to parliament to decide what happens next and how it's going to happen. That's democracy at work. already for 3 years…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, CNXexpat said: You are leaving since how long? 2 years. After you left you can make good deals with other nations for sure, by example with Mr. America first or your former colony India which you treated so well. I am sure they all are waiting to make amazing deals with GREAT Britain. Lol. Yes, starting with the closure of "British Steel ".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 29 minutes ago, Joinaman said: But at least we wont be licking someones arse while implementing the Lisbon treated that we were never asked about, or offered any say on it either Remoaners will believe that the EU is gunna think about the poor old brits and make life much cheaper and easier for us all, Wont they ? They will lower our payments, allow us to make our own laws, allow us fishing rights, allow us to change immigration laws, etc, etc, Wont they ??? If we end up staying in, you can be certain that the terms will be crippling. The EU wil ******* hammer this country, to drive home the point to anyone else who dares to contemplate leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Maybe time to read and learn some of British history ? EU Treaty: Britain ratifies EU Treaty https://www.telegraph.co.uk/.../EU-Treaty-Britain-ratifies-EU-Trea... Before that, all is negociated and signed buy the prime ministers of all member states, incl of the U.K.555 You sent it complete with the picture of “Protect the Irish No”. They didn’t respect that referendum either. It was not WE who agreed to that treaty, but collaborateurs and federasts in our own parliament. Can you not see the parallels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, vogie said: 3 years if you want to be precise. You are coming across as a little cross? I see you emphasised the "GREAT" there was really no need to, the Romans called us Great Britain, so at best your beef is with the Italians.???????? The name Britain descends from the Latin name for Britain, Britannia or Brittānia, the land of the Britons. Old FrenchBretaigne (whence also Modern French Bretagne) and Middle English Bretayne, Breteyne. The French form replaced the Old English Breoton, Breoten, Bryten, Breten (also Breoton-lond, Breten-lond). Britannia was used by the Romans from the 1st century BC for the British Isles taken together. It is derived from the travel writings of the Pytheas around 320 BC, which described various islands in the North Atlantic as far north as Thule (probably Norway). Marcian of Heraclea, in his Periplus maris exteri, described the island group as αἱ Πρεττανικαὶ νῆσοι (the Prettanic Isles).[20] see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNXexpat Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 49 minutes ago, Joinaman said: But at least we wont be licking someones arse while implementing the Lisbon treated that we were never asked about, or offered any say on it either Remoaners will believe that the EU is gunna think about the poor old brits and make life much cheaper and easier for us all, Wont they ? They will lower our payments, allow us to make our own laws, allow us fishing rights, allow us to change immigration laws, etc, etc, Wont they ??? You were never asked? You also were members of the EU parliament. Nothing came surprisingly over you. Do you really think that a Brexit will lower your personal payments? So many companies leave GB, sometimes with the good paid staff. If these companies and their staff don´t pay taxes anymore, what do you think where the money for the schools, military and whatever will come from? Sure, you have more fishing rights. Fish your UK zone empty and start then to import your fish for the fish & chips. Change your immigration laws (by the way, you are not in the Schengen group, so all the immigration from Africa to Europe never effected you) and send all the people from By example Poland at home. But don´t wonder if your health system breakes down - and it is compared with other western European countries really bad). UK as a small country wants to make deals with India, USA, China, etc. Alone. Good luck. They know you are under pressure and they will let you know that they know. You need new contracts more than they need. So you´ll make a bad deal. GB will win a little bit of freedom but will loose so much more. They´ll find out during the next years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Loiner said: 555 You sent it complete with the picture of “Protect the Irish No”. They didn’t respect that referendum either. It was not WE who agreed to that treaty, but collaborateurs and federasts in our own parliament. Can you not see the parallels? Also in other EU member states agitation worked then.. till the Brexit disaster openen the eyes of many. therefore the Dutch PVV went from 4 to 0 seats in the Euro-Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 If we end up staying in, you can be certain that the terms will be crippling. The EU wil ******* hammer this country, to drive home the point to anyone else who dares to contemplate leaving. Posters from the Netherlands and Sweden had better hope Boris manages to get us out of the EU cult, or their exits could be severely hampered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 7 hours ago, evadgib said: But perhaps only for as long as the Tilbrook case continues to be black-balled by MSM & stalled by the courts ???? Explained (for any that aren't already aware) : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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welovesundaysatspace Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, evadgib said: Explained (for any that aren't already aware) : Who wouldn’t trust “Daddy Dragon” ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logder Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 13 hours ago, geoffbezoz said: The only thing that you can rely upon about BJ being serious about is himself. Definitely agree with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 https://www.itv.com/news/2019-06-25/will-boris-johnsons-brexit-plan-work-asks-robert-peston/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, puipuitom said: The name Britain descends from the Latin name for Britain, Britannia or Brittānia, the land of the Britons. Old FrenchBretaigne (whence also Modern French Bretagne) and Middle English Bretayne, Breteyne. The French form replaced the Old English Breoton, Breoten, Bryten, Breten (also Breoton-lond, Breten-lond). Britannia was used by the Romans from the 1st century BC for the British Isles taken together. It is derived from the travel writings of the Pytheas around 320 BC, which described various islands in the North Atlantic as far north as Thule (probably Norway). Marcian of Heraclea, in his Periplus maris exteri, described the island group as αἱ Πρεττανικαὶ νῆσοι (the Prettanic Isles).[20] see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain Yes from the Latin, what language did the Romans speak, yes correct, Latin. The two isles of Britain were Ireland and the bigger isle now England, Scotland and Wales, to differentiate the Romans called the bigger isle great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, vogie said: Yes from the Latin, what language did the Romans speak, yes correct, Latin. The two isles of Britain were Ireland and the bigger isle now England, Scotland and Wales, to differentiate the Romans called the bigger isle great. We used to write our address' in our school exercise books thus ... No.X, My street, My Village, My City, England, Great Britain, The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, The British Isles, Near Europe, The Northern Hemisphere, Earth, The Solar System, The Milky Way Galaxy, The Universe. Why is it so difficult for foreigners to understand? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said: Who wouldn’t trust “Daddy Dragon” ???? The ol' Poster rather than Content lark is predictable and wearing thin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 hours ago, puipuitom said: Maybe time to read and learn some of British history ? EU Treaty: Britain ratifies EU Treaty https://www.telegraph.co.uk/.../EU-Treaty-Britain-ratifies-EU-Trea... Before that, all is negociated and signed buy the prime ministers of all member states, incl of the U.K. WITHOUT GOING TO THE PEOPLE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 16 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: If he is serious slap it on the side of a bus so people can remember it???? May i humbly suggest , he would look better , under a bus , Right hand side .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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