Foreign tourists in Pai vandalise Thai flags, anger locals

[Thongkorn]

3 hours ago, charmonman said:

I think they should've been deported and barred entry to the country for something like 5 years, the stupid little punks.

 So what would you do with Stupid Thais who do pranks,

[mike787]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Locals had earlier called for the foreigners to be deported.

 

AHAHHAHAH!!!  Foreigners/expats will be deported anyway, as if this is some real threat, rather an idle threat..However, separately, I do not support destruction of the flags. 

[Chazar]

17 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

Q: Why do the Thais condemn it so quickly and forcefully?

 

A: Because the last one to do so is a traitor.

 

In the Soviet Union of the 1930's everyone "loved" Stalin........it was suicide not to.

 

 

 

Just the same here.

[Chazar]

14 minutes ago, Thongkorn said:

 So what would you do with Stupid Thais who do pranks,

Call em Pratts, end of story.

[Mel52]

Very fortunate indeed that they had enough cash on them to be able to achieve such a conclusion.

 I was thinking the same thing when I read that last paragraph that no action would be taken against them and their names and nationalities wouldn’t be revealed. Regardless they are stupid little punks giving the rest of us a bad name. That’s why when I’m out I maintain a decent appearance even when dressed causally I almost always where shorts unless I’m going to immigration then I at least put on a pair of jeans I’m retired so I’m gonna be comfortable but I’m not gonna look like I’ve been stranded on a desert island for years either so I at least shave and get a haircut once in a while.  

And if we’re out and I see someone particularly a local in need of assistance I’ll help them. And it’s just little things like being nice to people, respectful, and polite holding doors open for people behind you. Just common manners and courtesy. I like to do what I can to show them that not all of us foreigners are bad people. And I encourage others to do the same.

 

When this kind of nonsense occurs perpetrated by foreigners from anywhere it’s bad for all of us that live here full time. I don’t care if you’re an American, European, Australian, or whatever nationality we are guests in their land their country so we must act the part. Obviously you wouldn’t go into your neighbors house and piss on the floor so why do it in someone’s country we can still be ourselves as long as you’re a decent person who doesn’t go out and raise hell. Because even in your home country you shouldn’t act like these tourists did so as long as you’re a normal and polite person just being yourself should be good enough you don’t necessarily have to go out of your way even though I do occasionally for people that’s just me.

 

Personally I think the Thais should throw them in jail for at least a month or two and make an example out of their asses and maybe this kind of nonsense will stop or at least be reduced. Because there have been many other incidents similar to this such as young foreign women posing nude on camera in front of Thai historical landmarks and other things such as foreigners spray painting on public property which is known as “tagging” in the United States.

 

Going to a foreign country and vandalizing their flags and other stupid things like that is not normal behavior and if it is normal behavior for anyone they need to stay in their home country and probably seek mental health treatment. Some people are just not mature enough to travel abroad. At the very minimum at least respect their culture. AND PEOPLE JUST NEED TO STOP DOING STUPID SH;l IN THAILAND IT GIVES US ALL A BAD REP.

 

 

 

[user68677878]

And foreigners wonder why there is angst against them from the local and bureaucrats - this is exactly why. Being drunk is no defence.

[ratcatcher]

2 hours ago, Catoni said:

“A flag is just a symbol.”  

    Yes indeed, a very, very important symbol. 

I couldn't agree with you more! Lives have been given to protect the flags of nations.

Desecrating any flag IMHO is a dangerous act. 

[tandor]

...no excuse whatsoever for desecrating ANY countries' flag/standard/banner...get rid of them.

[chama]

4 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

Very fortunate indeed that they had enough cash on them to be able to achieve such a conclusion.

That would be the only reason they could have avoided serious punishment. An education on the Thai system. On the other hand disrespecting a national flag (as well as a flag representing a monarchy when appropriate) is almost always legally prohibited in any country.

[zyphodb]

3 hours ago, kensisaket said:

Not condoning what was done here; but, you (Thais) shouldn't act so indignant when you blatantly walk around wearing articles of clothing (including undergarments and socks) made in the image of flags of other countries. Has it ever dawned on you that people from those countries feel the same way you do about your flag.

You took the words right out of my mouth Ken. I don't care what people do with a flag myself as it's just a nationalistic symbol of little importance to my way of thinking, but the sheer hypocrisy of Thais being precious about theirs while using the union jack or stars and stripes as all sorts of fashion statements is breathtakingly ignorant... 

[pyrate]

OMG, it's just a piece of fabric. Why is it that people are so overly sensitive. What they should be concerned with is the lack of hygiene, prostitution and abhorrent alcoholism. Truly this is much more important. No one goes to jail in American for "desecrating" the flag.  It's called freedom of speech not freedom from being offended at every turn. I'm sure a moderator will restrict this post as it doesn't follow the narrative of foreigners bad, Thai good!

Edited July 1, 2019 by pyrate

[Formaleins]

4 hours ago, charmonman said:

I think they should've been deported and barred entry to the country for something like 5 years, the stupid little punks.

Why stop there? They should have been buried up to their necks then stoned to death, probably be worth bringing over every living blood relative they have and beheading them at the same time! They obviously need to have their entire bloodline wiped from the face of the earth for playing with a Thai flag.

[Gandtee]

Now I hope there will be a crackdown on Thais wearing the UK's Union Jack on their pants. Mind you, the Brits do it and who cares? 'Nationalism is the last refuge of scoundrels.' 

[Formaleins]

5 minutes ago, pyrate said:

OMG, it's just a piece of fabric. Why is it that people are so overly sensitive. What they should be concerned with is the lack of hygiene, prostitution and abhorrent alcoholism. Truly this is much more important. No one goes to jail in American for "desecrating" the flag.  It's called freedom of speech not freedom from being offended at every turn. I'm sure a moderator will restrict this post as it doesn't follow the narrative of foreigners bad, Thai good!

While I don't think there is any need to jail these dumb idiots, they need to respect other people and their country. No one should be burning flags. It is a bit like walking into a bar and turning your glass upside down. Just disrespectful and liable to get you put in hospital. Younger people from the "West" think they can do what they like, they do not realise just how offensive disrespecting some countries flags can be. Some people still have some pride for their country, not all of them are right wing Nazi scum nationalists as the western media would have you believe. Sadly the younger generation have never had to go to war and fight for anything so they see nothing at all wrong with destroying and ridiculing something like a flag. If those soldiers who went off from all over the world to fight and die for what they thought was freedom in the past wars could come back and see Europe today, they wouldn't get off those landing craft to defend the scum on our streets that are destroying our freedom in ways much more obnoxious than any foreign power, they are like a fifth column, a race of parasites, destroying their host from within. Luckily, not every country or people share their twisted ideas.

[ravip]

4 hours ago, Emdog said:

Take a chill pill. A flag is just a symbol. Stupid or ignorant? Sure.

You really condone the foreigners act? That's a cool attitude.

How do you use your national flag?

[NightSky]

Its just some immature, silly kids messing around...

 

..oh and the foreigners aren't so smart either.

 

Seriously though, of course the kids are in the wrong and they should be taught to show some respect but lets not get carried away here, its not as if they were attempting to invade the country.

 

 

Edited July 1, 2019 by NightSky

[Tony Vacharee]

They were lucky! Stupid kids, they should study before going abroad..

[Lacessit]

Wherever you are. it's just good manners to respect the local customs. Lucky to get off so lightly.

[Mitkof Island]

Pai was ruined years ago once the Khao San Road/Full Moon Party idiots starting showing up.

Edited July 1, 2019 by Mitkof Island

[Mitkof Island]

7 minutes ago, hyku1147 said:

Cupid stunts. After all, love was in the air.

I stopped going there in 2005 and i thought it was bad. Basically Khao San Road/Full Moon Party north idiots. Dangerous to be around.

[anterian]

If I had a Pound for every UK or American flag I have seen burnt I would be quite a bit richer. 

[Burma Bill]

Like days of old (1980's) - Pai was "bandit" territory in the Golden Triangle and became a "hippies" paradise. It would be interesting for Immigration to look for "over-stayers" in the region.

[Mitkof Island]

1 minute ago, Burma Bill said:

Like days of old (1980's) - Pai was "bandit" territory in the Golden Triangle and became a "hippies" paradise. It would be interesting for Immigration to look for "over-stayers" in the region.

Yes hundreds of the Neo Hippy Dips hiding there now.

[dcnx]

Nationalism is a disease. 

[moe666]

They could have been in North Korea, were vandalizing a banner is the death penalty

[Scott]

Inflammatory troll post reported and removed.  

[ZeVonderBearz]

Those calling for these kids to be punished are the same who I see bitch and moan about Thailand and it's people on the regular. They are just flags that are used by the few to control the masses.

[moe666]

1 hour ago, pyrate said:

OMG, it's just a piece of fabric. Why is it that people are so overly sensitive. What they should be concerned with is the lack of hygiene, prostitution and abhorrent alcoholism. Truly this is much more important. No one goes to jail in American for "desecrating" the flag.  It's called freedom of speech not freedom from being offended at every turn. I'm sure a moderator will restrict this post as it doesn't follow the narrative of foreigners bad, Thai good!

A few years ago the right wing wanted to make desecrating the flag in the US a jail offence but cooler heads prevailed

[Mel52]

I couldn't agree with you more! Lives have been given to protect the flags of nations. Desecrating any flag IMHO is a dangerous act.      

 

 It’s just disrespectful. When I was in SERE school in the military (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape school part of my SF training) during the last 3 days of the course after evasion phase we were all in what’s called the “Resistance Training Lab” (RTL). The RTL is a mock foreign prison and they make it so realistic that some of the toughest people will quit even on the last day it’s probably the only school in the Army that allows them to beat you, starve you, and abuse you in other ways including verbally in the RTL during the last 60 to 72 hours of the course. There are other phases of Special Forces Training where you also experience extreme sleep deprivation and lack of food as well it’s tough training. Well anyway there was one training exercise in the RTL where they made our Commanding Officer burn the American flag, and he was doing his best to resist that but then they threatened to shoot one of our fellow students (mock prisoners) not literally shoot him it was just training but it was a test to see what he’d do. So eventually the Officer very reluctantly burned the American flag but he WAS NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT!     

At the end of the school they told us a piece of clothe is not worth someone’s life and they also taught us that it’s ok to burn our flag IF it’s in enemy hands, sort of like if an American flag that has been damaged or torn it’s customary to burn it and bury it or something to that effect. Even I was shocked when they burned the American flag in front of us in SERE school on Camp MacKall, North Carolina near Fort Bragg. And that was United States Army Special Forces Training! It was just part of the extremely rigorous and mentally tough training. In SF training they teach you that not everything is black and white long story short. That’s just an interesting story I have among many other interesting stories.

 

Your post just reminds me of that story but regardless it’s extremely disrespectful to burn anyone’s flag and I don’t like flag burning I don’t care if it’s a form of protest or not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Uptooyoo]

6 hours ago, Emdog said:

Take a chill pill. A flag is just a symbol. Stupid or ignorant? Sure.

This is not America. Unlike America it is not politically correct here to disparage your leaders and your country. If you think you can be a disrespectful punk here, you'll rightfully face the consequences. 

Edited July 1, 2019 by Uptooyoo