UK far-right activist Tommy Robinson convicted in contempt-of-court case

[nontabury]

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I'm quite sure that if TVF members start naming other TVF members as racists they'd face a problem with at least one forum rule. 

 

Perhaps you should keep that in mind when inviting people to break those rules.  

 

  But some snowflakes have already accused some TV members of being racist, simple for having a different point of view. It’s as if they are saying,

if you don’t agree with me that makes you a racist,sexist,homophobic,Islamaphobic,xenophobic,inbred,bible thumping bigot,and à violence lover.

 The problem, when you start throwing words such as racist around at people who disagree with you, it then ceases to have the same meaning and impact. 

 

[simple1]

10 hours ago, evadgib said:

Your motive was to deflect, quoting the judge in order to mask your action. Several appear to have been taken in, Others weren't.

Conspiracy nonsense. The judge was referencing fact due to right wing extremists such as TR leveraging child abuse by Muslim heritage people for propaganda purposes, as do members on this forum. (Personally I would not tag them as "Muslims", they are criminals, as they would be treated in Islamic societies for the same offences; same applies to "Christians"). On the other side of the coin, as I recall, HMG identified child sexual abuse by Muslim heritage people is something like double that of white offenders by way of population representation. The main contributing background causes have been identified by HMG. If you're interested to find the detail read the Rotherham Report which is a good reference point, 

Edited July 8, 2019 by simple1

[simple1]

3 hours ago, nontabury said:

 

  But some snowflakes have already accused some TV members of being racist, simple for having a different point of view. It’s as if they are saying,

if you don’t agree with me that makes you a racist,sexist,homophobic,Islamaphobic,xenophobic,inbred,bible thumping bigot,and à violence lover.

 The problem, when you start throwing words such as racist around at people who disagree with you, it then ceases to have the same meaning and impact. 

 

When some members repeatedly link to far right anti ethnic group propaganda it only serves to underline their bigotry. Same members glorying deaths at sea for 'migrants etc (posts repeatedly removed by Mods) one can logically identify them as bigots. I use the word 'bigot' as probably more acceptable to counter expected faux outrage for the term 'racist'.

 

Another identifier for bigots is use of the right of centre term 'snowflake/s'

[oxysong]

14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The real eyeopener is none of your off topic diversionary post has anything to do with the topic under discussion. 

Absolutely nothing in this thread explains why these vile rapists were allowed to commit their crimes for so long.

Nobody anywhere is this thread has excused the vile rapists of responsibility for their heinous crimes. 

 

Myself and others are delighted that the judge in the trial of the vile rapists acted swiftly to prevent Yaxley Lennon's illegal actions collapsing the trial. 

 

I despise Yaxley Lennon, he's done nothing to uncover any child rapists, he's done nothing to bring any child rapist to justice, he deliberately and knowingly committed contempt of court, even referring to the laws he was breaking as he did so. His actions gave grounds for the defence lawyers of the vile rapists to ask the judge to dismiss the jury and we should all consider it good luck that their attempt failed. 

Like Yaxley Lennon, these vile rapists have a right to appeal - do not be at all surprised if they do appeal and do not be in the least bit surprised if they do so on the basis of Yaxley Lennon's behaviour. 

 

I'm pleased not to be defending a criminal who has demonstrably put the trial and verdict against these vile rapists at risk. 

 

This is exactly right,but somehow the snowflake tribe attempt to undermine the longstanding and I may add the understandable frustrations that are aimed at the muslim quarter.   Never thought the BBC would take on the mantle,but they did,10 years apart the widening drift of "us" and "them    go view it all, not hard to find,an hours worth of truth,..if it hurts?  well for snowflakes it surely will

 

  I have put this up before,the Great Satan,the yardstick that divides in the UK is Universal Credit,Pension Credit too,that frustrates them. Yes fought hard  pointing at dress sense/language/religious duties that put them at permanent disadvantage to white population,thought they might be excused at one point,but mass objections to that attempt ,sorta stopped it

Edited July 9, 2019 by oxysong

[Scott]

Inflammatory post reported and removed.

 

[NanLaew]

On 7/6/2019 at 10:30 AM, rooster59 said:

Sentencing of Robinson, who was charged under his real name of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, will take place at a later date. The maximum penalty for criminal contempt is two years in jail.

You go boi,  please!

 

...whatever your name is.

[NanLaew]

On 7/6/2019 at 11:20 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

Thanks to their heroic efforts both Griffin and Robinson...

Nah, you lost me when you used the verb 'heroic' to describe that pair of twunts.

 

Firefighters are heroic. Spot the difference. They put out flames whereas your chosen heros merely fan them.

[oxysong]

16 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

You go boi,  please!

 

...whatever your name is.

He will come out(if he goes back in) stronger than ever

[evadgib]

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If you don't trust what you refer to as 'MSM' who then do you trust for your news?

This attempted stitch up by BBC Panorama spectacularly backfired. It amply explains to the casual observer what MSM are up to these days:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/wNd2bvLvyk4/

Edited July 9, 2019 by evadgib

[oxysong]

Long before Robinson came to prominence,there were others voicing concern,latterly there are some likened to the Muslm MP Naz Shah advising underage victims to "keep their mouths shut to stop dividing races"  attempting to silence the victims   how foul can muslim  UK politicians be?

   It was that Hindu MoL member,that baroness who persistently questioned their motives,she was so so right,far ahead of her peers,anyone voicing concern accused of racism(lol)

  They are now being exposed as never before,work practices too ,to get welfare they have to work,which they had every excuse not to,.good on Universal Credit,pity not introduced decades before,

Edited July 9, 2019 by oxysong

[oxysong]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I see you struggled with the question, here it is again:

 

If you don’t trust what you refer to as the ‘MSM’, who then do you trust for your news?

I would say the police investigating the muslim rape gangs,the crown prosecution,who did eventually have to prosecute,the juries who found the lot guilty,even those muslim jury members who were thwarted by majority verdicts of having their kith and kin found guilty ,the judge who banged them up for prolonged sentences ,and yes deportation now awaits them,  good eh!...yes I trust all the immediate above...the BBC are dragging their feet,eventually have to speed up

[dick dasterdly]

I give them all minimal weight, knowing that they are all biased towards their own perspective.

[Rimmer]

Some baiting/bickering posts removed

[trucking]

On 7/6/2019 at 2:27 PM, DoctorG said:

Exactly what racism is involved here?

I was wondering about that ?? 

 

Is Islam a race ? If a white English person converts to Islam has he changed his race or his religion ? If I become a Buddhist am I now a Thai ?

 

Tommy Robinson  might not like Islamic extremism but I thought that would be a religious issue rather than a racist one. He has black and Jewish supporters too. Shouldn't he hate them too if he is a racist or white supremacist. ?

 

For ignoring the law he has been found guilty.  End of.

[Orton Rd]

55 minutes ago, trucking said:

I was wondering about that ?? 

 

Is Islam a race ? If a white English person converts to Islam has he changed his race or his religion ? If I become a Buddhist am I now a Thai ?

 

Tommy Robinson  might not like Islamic extremism but I thought that would be a religious issue rather than a racist one. He has black and Jewish supporters too. Shouldn't he hate them too if he is a racist or white supremacist. ?

 

For ignoring the law he has been found guilty.  End of.

The Islamic brotherhood and the Islamic council of great Britain (elected by nobody) have been trying to get criticism of Islam classed as racism in law in the UK, it's not happened yet. It is of course laughable to try and pretend an ideology consisting of all races can be the victim of racism merely for having it's beliefs, scripture and the life of the prophet discussed by people opposed to it.

[NanLaew]

3 hours ago, oxysong said:

how foul can muslim  UK politicians be?

As foul as white Christian UK politicians who turn their backs on the poor, uneducated marginalized and vulnerable youth in communities across the country? The white Christian UK politicians that condone police treating some of their own nationality, race and religion as lower than dogshit just because they are uneducated, poor, drug raddled and generally 'not worth it'?

[Kadilo]

4 hours ago, oxysong said:

He will come out(if he goes back in) stronger than ever

“Wealthier”

Edited July 9, 2019 by Kadilo

[Orton Rd]

2 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

“Wealthier”

More likely he will come out in a box murdered by his Muslim fan club

[Kadilo]

21 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

More likely he will come out in a box murdered by his Muslim fan club

5555 so you believe all the <deleted> he came out with last time then. 

 

[simple1]

32 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

The Islamic brotherhood and the Islamic council of great Britain (elected by nobody) have been trying to get criticism of Islam classed as racism in law in the UK,

I have used Google to read about your claim and can't locate. You maybe thinking of OIC whose efforts at the UN were rejected. If not can you provide a link?

[Rimmer]

Off topic troll post removed

[Orton Rd]

14 minutes ago, simple1 said:

I have used Google to read about your claim and can't locate. You maybe thinking of OIC whose efforts at the UN were rejected. If not can you provide a link?

Plenty of reports, but I did not see any in the Guardian so you will probably dismiss this and others of being right wing or bigoted. I should have said some PM's under pressure from and supported by the Muslim council of what was Great Britain

 

http://bloodredpatriots.com/2018/11/30/uk-mps-call-for-islamophobia-to-be-classed-as-racism-want-to-criminalize-claims-islam-spread-by-the-sword-2/

 

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/11/uk-mps-call-for-islamophobia-to-be-classed-as-racism-want-to-criminalize-claims-that-islam-spread-by-the-sword

 

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/27/parliamentary-report-calls-islamophobia-be-officially-classed-racism/

Edited July 9, 2019 by Orton Rd

[simple1]

23 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Plenty of reports, but I did not see any in the Guardian so you will probably dismiss this and others of being right wing or bigoted. I should have said some PM's under pressure from and supported by the Muslim council of what was Great Britain

 

http://bloodredpatriots.com/2018/11/30/uk-mps-call-for-islamophobia-to-be-classed-as-racism-want-to-criminalize-claims-islam-spread-by-the-sword-2/

So your claim was misleading, that's why it didn't get a hit with Google search. Yes you're correct I don't acknowledge any credibility to an organisation named "Blood Red Patriots", nor the others. The good news is you have finally given an insight to your info sources. The dreaded MSM have covered the matter. I doubt you will read the article, but it may be of interest to others who are interested in factual reporting...

 

in a cross-party letter from the APPG seen by The Independent, dozens of parliamentarians are calling on the government to adopt the phrase to clearly identify what constitutes discrimination against Muslims.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/islamophobia-definition-racism-uk-british-muslims-letter-government-discrimination-a8682621.html

 

EDIT: Your first source is a blog from an extremist fundamental christian, is that what you are?

Edited July 9, 2019 by simple1

[nontabury]

9 hours ago, simple1 said:

Conspiracy nonsense. The judge was referencing fact due to right wing extremists such as TR leveraging child abuse by Muslim heritage people for propaganda purposes, as do members on this forum. (Personally I would not tag them as "Muslims", they are criminals, as they would be treated in Islamic societies for the same offences; same applies to "Christians"). On the other side of the coin, as I recall, HMG identified child sexual abuse by Muslim heritage people is something like double that of white offenders by way of population representation. The main contributing background causes have been identified by HMG. If you're interested to find the detail read the Rotherham Report which is a good reference point, 

Well they were’t thought of in the Rotherham Muslim commnity as criminals. The local Muslim commuity kept very quite on the subject,never mind parading through the town to condemn their fellow religious citizens. While strangely when the local council brought in a local by- law, to force the Taxis ( remember it was the Taxi drivers who were heavily involved) to install cameras inside the Taxis, the local Muslim community did in fact,not only voice their anger,but they held demonstrations.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, nontabury said:

Well they were’t thought of in the Rotherham Muslim commnity as criminals. The local Muslim commuity kept very quite on the subject,never mind parading through the town to condemn their fellow religious citizens. While strangely when the local council brought in a local by- law, to force the Taxis ( remember it was the Taxi drivers who were heavily involved) to install cameras inside the Taxis, the local Muslim community did in fact,not only voice their anger,but they held demonstrations.

 

 

Link?

[sanemax]

21 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Robinson' was a member of one or more of these groups, he's been convicted of many criminal offences and it seems, continues to break the law. He is selective about which criminal activity he 'reports' on - I haven't seen him reporting on any white grooming gangs or exposing their activies - his behaviour is racially motivated and that is quite clear.

Are there "White grooming gangs" in the UK that target vulnerable kids with impunity though ?

Yes, there are White pedos , but the police and the law actively hunt them down and prosecute them .

The Muslims rape gangs were acting with impunity , are there also White gangs doing the same ?

A reason as to why Tommy hasnt exposed any White grooming gangs, is because they don't exist ?

[KhaoYai]

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

Are there "White grooming gangs" in the UK that target vulnerable kids with impunity though ?

Yes, there are White pedos , but the police and the law actively hunt them down and prosecute them .

The Muslims rape gangs were acting with impunity , are there also White gangs doing the same ?

A reason as to why Tommy hasnt exposed any White grooming gangs, is because they don't exist ?

 

He's done a good job on you.  Of course they exist - but the white gangs operate differently. They are not 'physical' groups of people meeting up and having sex with underage children - they work mostly online acting as individuals. They groom kids, eventually meeting up with them and using them for sexual gratification - they then post videos and photos of their victims on secret websites.

 

There are several vigilante groups who are active in the UK at the moment - they are actively seeking these people out and when they catch them, they expose them and present well prepared dossiers of evidence to the police.

 

Paedophile activity is probably more widespread and carried out on a much bigger scale than we think. The white 'groomers' seem to act online whereas the Asian gangs have a physical presence. But what is the difference between physical groups of people, meeting up and grooming young children for sex and individuals doing it?  Is the crime any less?

 

Neither act with impunity, the police and other authorities may, it seems to have been at the least 'slack' in the case of the Asian gangs and that certainly needs looking at. But that does not mean that the crime is not being carried out by significant numbers of white people acting as described above. Would you say those currently being exposed by the vigilantes have acted with impunity because the police haven't caught them?

 

Whether its lack of funding, time, manpower or all three on the part of the police - either nobody has acted with impunity or they all have.  In fact, by your way of reckoning, the white groomers are acting with even greater impunity that the Asians - they are only just coming to light yet when caught, its often discovered that they have been operating for years.  I seem to remember on one of the recent TV programmes following the vigilantes, that one paedophile had several million sexually explicit images of children on his computer.

 

This is not just an Asian/Muslim problem - its just that 'Robinson' only chooses to 'expose' Asians.

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by KhaoYai

[TopDeadSenter]

13 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

This is not just an Asian/Muslim problem - its just that 'Robinson' only chooses to 'expose' Asians.

I was called a “white slag” and “white c***” as they beat me.

They made it clear that because I was a non-Muslim, and not a virgin, and because I didn’t dress “modestly”, that they believed I deserved to be “punished”. They said I had to “obey” or be beaten.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/rotherham-grooming-gang-sexual-abuse-muslim-islamist-racism-white-girls-religious-extremism-a8261831.html

[Scott]

Troll post reported and removed.   Please stay on topic.

 

[simple1]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Link?

I had a recollection there was a protest; link below. As when the Rotherham Report was first released and discussed in this forum there were a number of matters that certain members refused to acknowledge. Again if anyone is interested it is well worth reading the entire report rather than cherry picking.

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-33340654

Edited July 9, 2019 by simple1