"Suvarnabhumi is hell" screams Thailand's most famous English teacher

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Mel52 said:

That’s been my honest experience. You know what I think some of you can’t handle living in a foreign country anymore and have been here too long and can’t handle traveling through international airports, and maybe it’s time that some of you JUST GO HOME!

Yep, you are a wind up merchant....

[Bangkok Barry]

15 minutes ago, Mel52 said:

Ten years ago I first started coming here as a tourist now I’ve been living here for the last 5 years by the way. Go see what it’s like everywhere else instead of pushing your conspiracy theories on an Internet forum. I have been living here as well for years and I’ve been all over the rest of the world as well. I also deal with immigration every year and every 90 days for only a few minutes when I do my 90 day report.

 

 

I'm sure we are all very impressed with your travel adventures, and happy you manage to sail through immigration procedures. But this is a thread about people who do not live your charmed life, the experiences of dozens of posters and even photos of the long queues. Now go on, tell us everyone has imagined standing for an hour or more, past the signs that tell you your waiting time is 45 minutes, 30 minutes etc, and the photos are photoshopped.

No-one has written that Thailand is unique in its delays. In fact, I'll admit that I stopped going to your once-wonderful country some years ago, by the way, in large part due to the shambles I found when I arrived at LAX on my last two visits, waiting up to two hours because the IT wasn't working, 40 minutes for an airbridge to deplane after we arrived right on time, and having an x-ray security machine not being able to tell the difference between explosives and the silver paper on a pack of mints in my pocket.

[poohy]

54 minutes ago, Andrew65 said:

Thai and Eva leave LHR around 21:30 for BKK arriving around 15:00. So just with those 2 flights it's probably around 600+ people being disgourged into Swampy at the same time. Probably flights from CDG, AMS, & Frankfurt also.

 

As someone else pointed out, if you arrive between 12:00 -14:00 the Thais have their lunch break. Probably not enough IO's to rotate and keep all the desks open.

Correct, mine was from Frankfurt

[Bangkok Barry]

19 minutes ago, kinyara said:

Minister for Tourism, Head of Immigration, AOT, TAT, even the PM in disguise, turn up unannounced and view the actual situation in the arrivals hall of Swampy.

 

Their ego would not allow for them to go anywhere without a swarm of white uniforms around them ready to jump to their bidding.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Mel52 said:

First of all learn how to spell and don’t write when you’re so angry at the world it’s spelled “organized”. You’re another one that’s extremely presumptuous I have management experience in some pretty serious combat and 21 years in the military. At my local immigration office they are extremely organized and I’m in and out fast every single time. Suvarnabhumi airport is just simply one of the busiest airports in the world. I started visiting here ten years ago and now I’ve been retired here for over 5 years now .

I think it’s time for that other guy to retire if he honestly has been working here for 31 years lol obviously he can’t take it anymore if his story is true. But I doubt it after reading some of his conspiracy theories.

The English spelling is "Organised"...If others want to change that it is up to them, so before you become a spelling police recruit I suggest you first realise that real English speakers are members of this forum...

[Thaidream]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Chummy, to be honest I don't think you know what you are talking about or you are on a wind up....Think you don't realise that a few of us on TVF have been in the country a long time and KNOW how the place works. You can carry on with your stuff but looking daft will take it's toll.

Yes Indeed-  I remember landing at Don Muang 50 years ago from a 30 plus hours flight from Easteern US late at night with about 7 other people that got off. We had to wake up the Immigration Officeer to give us our 15 day stamp.  Throughout the years Immigration has improved and then declined- mostly due to the xenophobic attitude of various Thai Governments.  

 

The whole fingerprinting scenario coupled with facial recognition and then questioning people with valid visas is way too stringent and a complete waste of time. If there is a blacklist- it should come up automatically= yet the computer system they use apears to be antiquated and the Officer needs to revert to various data bases including the Interpol red notices. Keeping out 'bad guys' is fine but when your system also starts keeping out the 'good guys' something is wrong.

 

Mr Biggs has valid criticism because if your economy is tourist oriented- visitors are your customers and they need to be treated as valued guests.  Immigration is the entry point for all arrivals and that is where first impressions are made. Unfortunaty, at the present visitors are not treated as valued guests but potential criminals to be overly screened and interogated. 

 

A visitors next impression is at baggage and the time it takes to get ones suitcase.  Then comes Cusoms-  in the past the green line ensured quick egress- but the new customs proposal to screen every incoming bag and assess customs duty will cause another chokepoint. A policy that is backwards and merely done as an income earner and has nothing to do with security.

 

Then there is the taxi  situation with the ever changing winds that blow good and bad and at times cause issues for the incoming tourist.

 

If one is to evaluate the whole experience- it is unacceptible - it is not the way to get repeat tourists because first impressions really set the tone for everything.  The proof is that Western tourism which normally has repat customers is down and fading fast. The old adage that when a person gets good seervice they tell one friend , but wjhen they get poor service they tell 20 people. However, with social media- they can tell 1000 people in seconds.

 

Instead of the authorities  making excuses or Thais questioning his 'loyalty' they might want to  actually take a realistic look at the whole proces of entry to hotel and make the appropriate changes.  Mr Biggs should get an award for speaking the truth.

[Mel52]

 

I'm sure we are all very impressed with your travel adventures, and happy you manage to sail through immigration procedures. But this is a thread about people who do not live your charmed life, the experiences of dozens of posters and even photos of the long queues. Now go on, tell us everyone has imagined standing for an hour or more, past the signs that tell you your waiting time is 45 minutes, 30 minutes etc, and the photos are photoshopped.

 

No-one has written that Thailand is unique in its delays. In fact, I'll admit that I stopped going to your once-wonderful country some years ago, by the way, in large part due to the shambles I found when I arrived at LAX on my last two visits, waiting up to two hours because the IT wasn't working, 40 minutes for an airbridge to deplane after we arrived right on time, and having an x-ray security machine not being able to tell the difference between explosives and the silver paper on a pack of mints in my pocket.

I know I’ve always lived such a “charmed life” lol [emoji38] presumptuous again lol [emoji23] and I feel so sorry for those of you who have had to wait in line at the airport that’s awful life is tough LMAO [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]

 

More like the experience of dozens of whiners. [emoji38]

[poohy]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

The English spelling is "Organised"...If others want to change that it is up to them, so before you become a spelling police recruit I suggest you first realise that real English speakers are members of this forum...

Indeed! well said, American English is not English...despite what Microsoft think

[Burma Bill]

22 hours ago, rayjed2 said:

This is NOT just to enter the "land of smiles" this is even if you are in transit. I fly  to Cambodia and like using Thia Air. I am a frequent flyer, but I will now use Malaysia Airways as the last few flights I have been held up by these long queues. Twice I have nearly missed my connection! in fact there was a family who pleaded with the Immigration Officers to let them through as their flight was leaving in 15 minutes, but there was no "smiles" then, and they were made to wait. They were just a few people in front of me and it took me nearly 50 minutes before I got through, so draw your own conclusions on the fate of that family!

I have flown many routes over the years and passed through many airports as a transfer passenger and have never had to pass through another security check such as this. Why are people who are in transit subjected to this in Suvarnabhumi airport?

No wonder tourism is dying in Thailand, just coming through immigration is enough to put a person off.

By the way, it takes me about 30 minutes to enter Cambodia via Phnom Penh, that is with collecting my bag, buying a visa and passing through immigration, go figure!!

 

Just for reference, with a Cambodian e-visa issued on-line, entry can be even quicker. A month ago I visited Siem Reap and from leaving the Air Asia aircraft to getting into my waiting tuk-tuk, was an amazing 20 minutes (including baggage collection off the carousel)! 

[Mel52]

The English spelling is "Organised"...If others want to change that it is up to them, so before you become a spelling police recruit I suggest you first realise that real English speakers are members of this forum...

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[transam]

4 minutes ago, Mel52 said:

Yes, the spell check squad do look a bit like that, you will fit in nicely....????

[Mel52]

I know I’ve always lived such a “charmed life” lol [emoji38] presumptuous again lol [emoji23] and I feel so sorry for those of you who have had to wait in line at the airport that’s awful life is tough LMAO [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]
 
More like the experience of dozens of whiners. [emoji38]

You think I like waiting in line at the airport or waiting in line anywhere it’s just life dude. And it’s better than getting shot at and blown up. Our lives are a lot better than most people in the world at least be a little thankful for what you have in life. It’s just unbelievable people complaining SO MUCH about waiting in line at the airport with everything else going on in the world. Don’t forget how good you have it compared to millions of other people in the world. It ain’t that bad.

[poohy]

An easy solution.....

Entering BHX a few months you dont see a IO, its all automated you are through in about 5 mins.

So why cant they use automated machines here they do for Thais if they want to keep jobs the IO can man the fingerprinting machine next to it?

 

[Bangkok Barry]

5 minutes ago, Mel52 said:

 

It's just hit me. You've been in Thailand so long you've become Thai, with everyone wrong but you, denial of what is obvious and everything about Thailand is perfect, even the shambolic 'organisation'. Your mind has been colonised ????

[Mel52]

 
It's just hit me. You've been in Thailand so long you've become Thai, with everyone wrong but you, denial of what is obvious and everything about Thailand is perfect, even the shambolic 'organisation'. Your mind has been colonised [emoji16]

WOW you have a stupid response for everything don’t you [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]

[Mel52]

Here I am again wasting my time arguing with stupidity I’m done lol [emoji38]

 

 

 

 

[Mel52]

Honestly what’s the point I’m just wasting my time talking to people complaining about waiting in line at the airport who have nothing better to do except complain about it online [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]

 

 

 

 

 

[Bangkok Barry]

1 minute ago, Mel52 said:

Here I am again wasting my time arguing with stupidity I’m done lol

 

 

 

 

At LAST!

[Crustyhk]

25 minutes ago, Mel52 said:

First of all learn how to spell and don’t write when you’re so angry at the world it’s spelled “organized”. You’re another one that’s extremely presumptuous I have management experience in some pretty serious combat and 21 years in the military. At my local immigration office they are extremely organized and I’m in and out fast every single time. Suvarnabhumi airport is just simply one of the busiest airports in the world. I started visiting here ten years ago and now I’ve been retired here for over 5 years now .

I think it’s time for that other guy to retire if he honestly has been working here for 31 years lol obviously he can’t take it anymore if his story is true. But I doubt it after reading some of his conspiracy theories.

That’s well out of order. 

Criticise the hell out of someone for correctly spelling a word?

 

The yanks might spell it “organize” but the rest of us spell it the right way. 

[Mel52]

That’s well out of order. 
Criticise the hell out of someone for correctly spelling a word?
 
The yanks might spell it “organize” but the rest of us spell it the right way. 

Honestly what’s the point I’m just wasting my time talking to people complaining about waiting in line at the airport who have nothing better to do except complain about it online. Bye y’all [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Mel52 said:

Honestly what’s the point I’m just wasting my time talking to people complaining about waiting in line at the airport who have nothing better to do except complain about it online

 

 

 

 

 

Well that's a relief....Yabadabadoo....

[Crustyhk]

Just now, Mel52 said:

Honestly what’s the point I’m just wasting my time talking to people complaining about waiting in line at the airport who have nothing better to do except complain about it online. Bye y’all

I think you’ve just made a complete fool of yourself. A speedy exit is probably your best option

 

 

[Mel52]

Well that's a relief....Yabadabadoo....

I bet since this is pretty much your life on this forum not having the voice of reason anymore so go ahead let the crazy just go. Bye y’all [emoji23][emoji38][emoji23][emoji38][emoji23][emoji38]

[Bangkok Barry]

2 minutes ago, Crustyhk said:

I think you’ve just made a complete fool of yourself. A speedy exit is probably your best option

 

 

 

It's okay, he's been living here for five whole years. Some of us though have been here since the Dusit Thani was the tallest building in Bangkok. We might be a bit more tuned in to the country.

Edited July 20, 2019 by Bangkok Barry

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Mel52 said:

I bet since this is pretty much your life on this forum not having the voice of reason anymore so go ahead let the crazy just go. Bye y’all

Your parachute awaits......Adios amigo....

[dave moir]

23 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

Do the math.   They said Biggs had got off a plane when 44 flights with 4,500 passengers arrived between noon and 2pm.  That is 100 passengers per airplane.   That just does not sound right.  Biggs should teach them math not English.

Could be that a lot of people were moving between flights so wouldn't go through immigration at that time!

[transam]

15 minutes ago, Mel52 said:

Good night

 

 

 

 

It is lunch time here, so where are you....Alaska...?

[kinyara]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

It is lunch time here, so where are you....Alaska...?

He’s in the Immigration queue at Swampy bedding down for the long haul.

[Pedrogaz]

This is so easy to check. Put a camera there and see if all the booths are manned. Anyone who has travelled through Suvarnabuhmi knows they are never fully manned even in the heights of rush hours there. It is deplorable and now lying about it as well....disgraceful.

[BobBKK]

3 hours ago, scorecard said:

IMHO this is simple:

 

I've been in and out of Changi over 200 Times (for years years lived in bkk, at least 2 day trips to S'pre and back every week).

 

Longest wait 15 minutes. And S'pore Changi airport has enormous aircraft / passenger traffic. 

 

Can be done. Somehow here nobody completes the planning nor get it right.

 

 

yes but with have that special lane and avoid the long queues into BKK.

Edited July 20, 2019 by BobBKK