Caine Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 14 hours ago, Sticky Wicket said: The insurance thing keeps popping up. It's a slow burner but it's coming soon for everybody!! So it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said: Are there any examples of people with money being rejected for having insufficient funds? I was denied with a lot more than 20K with me but they did not ask anything except to sign the expulsion letter. After a couple month reading I came to the conclusion that they mainly deny: - Under 50 living in Thailand on tourist visa or visa exempt. Could possibly be because they might get kickback from elite visa company but I'm not sure. - People with recent long stay visa coming back on tourist visa or visa exempt. - People coming from poor country that might be working illegaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Lemonltr said: 14 hours ago, darksidedog said: I find it hard to believe that so many people in one day arrived without any money. As we all know the ATM machines are located AFTER immigration, and we have all heard of countless occasions when people with plenty of money have been denied before they got that far. As for being denied for no insurance, I wasn't aware that had become mandatory On the contrary. Not all of the millions of tourists know that ATM machines are AFTER immigration. I suspect also only a few are aware that they might have to carry 20.000 baht equiv in cash. Therefore I think it perverse that they don't put ATMs BEFORE immigration for those who have plenty of funds. on occasion i have arrived at a country's airport inadvertently without adequate funds or pergaps local currency to pay the visa fee and immigration simply escorted me outsite to terminal atm machine then back inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 14 hours ago, darksidedog said: I find it hard to believe that so many people in one day arrived without any money. As we all know the ATM machines are located AFTER immigration, and we have all heard of countless occasions when people with plenty of money have been denied before they got that far. As for being denied for no insurance, I wasn't aware that had become mandatory yet. We all know.....bit of a Motherhood statement isn't it. I think most frequent travellers know where the ATMs are. They also know where the currency exchange is...before Passport control. Tell me about people you have personally known or the countless occasions where it has happened. Didn't think so. The only part you got right is no mandatory insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, atyclb said: on occasion i have arrived at a country's airport inadvertently without adequate funds or pergaps local currency to pay the visa fee and immigration simply escorted me outsite to terminal atm machine then back inside. Which country or countries would that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 I have done similar in brunei when leaving. My mate had gone thru to departure gate. Was only about $20 or $25 departure tax. I mistakenly had put the international atm end date for that day so it didnt work. I only had $10 cash I talked To imm at the entrance and he let me thru to the gate, borrowed the cash off my friend, walked back out to check in then off I went. In australia they will take you to a room. If you say you have funds on a card they will take you to atm to check. Didnt happen to me but happened to my friend who i was picking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Colombia (or some such), here I come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Colombia (or some such), here I come!See ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sujo said: I have done similar in brunei when leaving. My mate had gone thru to departure gate. Was only about $20 or $25 departure tax. I mistakenly had put the international atm end date for that day so it didnt work. I only had $10 cash I talked To imm at the entrance and he let me thru to the gate, borrowed the cash off my friend, walked back out to check in then off I went. In australia they will take you to a room. If you say you have funds on a card they will take you to atm to check. Didnt happen to me but happened to my friend who i was picking up. Absolute nonsense. If border force suspect you, you are in a world of trouble. Access to an ATM is the least of your worry's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 16 hours ago, webfact said: They denied entry to 13 foreigners who couldn't show money to support their stay and were clearly not in the kingdom for purposes of tourism. This is a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, ukrules said: This is a lie. you know this how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, mogandave said: See ya So you're going to join him, I take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilAtUbon Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 7 hours ago, Traubert said: My point exactly. At my local minimart I pay by facial recognition. ... I have a twin brother. That little bastard would screw me into the ground ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 3 hours ago, emptypockets said: you know this how? They use this same lie all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 18 hours ago, Badbanker said: Sadly this Article 12 (2) and (9) has been used against people without them knowing about it on many occasions when arriving in the kingdom. This has become the most common excuse to deny foreigners entry into Thailand. The real reason is that the person has too many visa exempt entries into Thailand in the computer and in their passport! I know that in the past year on some days at land borders, 30 plus people were denied entry on visa exempt stamps and sent back. I have gone so far at to recommend that friends who visit Thailand on a regular basis on a visa exempt stamp, actually have the requisite 20,000 baht cash and a return ticket in hand and put them on the counter with their passport when approaching the immigration officer. Most times it works, but sometimes it doesn't! Where did the 20,000 baht come from..........is it not 10,000 baht? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 20 hours ago, Sticky Wicket said: They will want both! Whenever this insurance thing pops up, I'm asking myself insurance for what, a sprained wrist a broken arm or a severe am I that requires open heart surgery? As for buying insurance in Thailand, anyone over the age of 40 has a pre-existing condition and therefore is ineligible to purchase any insurance. On a personal level, I have very good insurance, Medicare, but it will not cover treatment outside of the United States. It will cover emergency presumably enough to stabilize whatever the problem is which would then allow someone to fly back to the country of origin where they have insurance. Bottom line, the only way Thailand can require people to have insurance is for the government to sell insurance to anyone who presents themselves regardless of pre-existing conditions. That is a simple clean unencumbered solution to the problem. Of course it also has to be affordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balance Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 19 hours ago, userabcd said: If they were genuine tourists then, as a minimum, they would have before their departure from their home country purchased a travel insurance for the duration of their stay. Not very expensive. it is generally understood that travel insurance is one of the largest scams perpetrated on people who travel. See if you can get yourself an actual policy, and after reading it carefully and consulting three lawyers oh, I'm sure you will agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkside Gray Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 I cannot think of another country in the world that asks you to show cash at the airport. in this day and age who walks around with large sums of cash on them especially in a lawless country like Thailand, where lady boys and motor cyclists will rip your cash from you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 44 minutes ago, Balance said: it is generally understood that travel insurance is one of the largest scams perpetrated on people who travel. See if you can get yourself an actual policy, and after reading it carefully and consulting three lawyers oh, I'm sure you will agree. I had to untilise travel insurance claim on one occasion during 2018, had no problems, submitted drs reports and receipts all reimbursed promptly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, Darkside Gray said: I cannot think of another country in the world that asks you to show cash at the airport. in this day and age who walks around with large sums of cash on them especially in a lawless country like Thailand, where lady boys and motor cyclists will rip your cash from you! Do not think the ladyboys are working airside yet???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 21 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said: Looks like immigration doesn't like guys who carry man purses. Empty ones !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Tayaout said: I was denied with a lot more than 20K with me but they did not ask anything except to sign the expulsion letter. After a couple month reading I came to the conclusion that they mainly deny: - Under 50 living in Thailand on tourist visa or visa exempt. Could possibly be because they might get kickback from elite visa company but I'm not sure. - People with recent long stay visa coming back on tourist visa or visa exempt. - People coming from poor country that might be working illegaly. Not unreasonable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Sujo said: I have done similar in brunei when leaving. My mate had gone thru to departure gate. Was only about $20 or $25 departure tax. I mistakenly had put the international atm end date for that day so it didnt work. I only had $10 cash I talked To imm at the entrance and he let me thru to the gate, borrowed the cash off my friend, walked back out to check in then off I went. In australia they will take you to a room. If you say you have funds on a card they will take you to atm to check. Didnt happen to me but happened to my friend who i was picking up. Australia doesn't charge you a departure tax at departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Darkside Gray said: I cannot think of another country in the world that asks you to show cash at the airport. in this day and age who walks around with large sums of cash on them especially in a lawless country like Thailand, where lady boys and motor cyclists will rip your cash from you! Large sum? I can, and have, spent 10,000 on a night out in Bangkok. often more. Haven't seen too many lady boys or motorcyclists hanging around passport control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 22 hours ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said: Looks like immigration doesn't like guys who carry man purses. Who does? Love your user name by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, emptypockets said: Australia doesn't charge you a departure tax at departure. I recently flew out of Australia after arriving on a ship, I had to buy the TSA visa for $20.00, I did it online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 7 hours ago, emptypockets said: Absolute nonsense. If border force suspect you, you are in a world of trouble. Access to an ATM is the least of your worry's. They may suspect you but at least in oz they wont really just make up a reason. If the concern is not having funds they will let you prove it. which part is nonsence? How would you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 None of them were white or came from western countries. Why would anyone on this forum care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, emptypockets said: Australia doesn't charge you a departure tax at departure. I didnt say it did. Read again. That part was for brunei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emptypockets Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: I recently flew out of Australia after arriving on a ship, I had to buy the TSA visa for $20.00, I did it online. No idea what a TSA visa is. I fly out of Australia frequently. Never been asked for money. Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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