TM30 issue

[alanratch]

Yesterday my wife went to Sriracha immigration to ask about the exact law and requirements for the TM 30 as we are going up country for a few days’ later this month.

She was told that every time I leave Sriracha for overnight stay I should inform the Thai police I.e. report to the police station before I go and she should fill in a TM 30 when we get back.

And if we are staying with family someone from that end must fill in a TM 30 and I should report to the police up country and inform them when I am leaving.

This TM 30 business is getting a little bit silly to say the least.

[lipflipper]

And just how would the clowns at any Immigration Office ever be able to tell if you left your province and simply stayed with friends or had your wife do the check in at any hotel??? This TM-30 B.S, has more holes in it than Swiss Cheese.

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[ChipButty]

It is already got silly because I have been told only do it when I arrive from outside the country

[CharlieH]

When I asked at my local IO it was stated that only required when leaving/re-entering the country or moving place of permanent residence to another province - that's all !

[ubonjoe]

38 minutes ago, alanratch said:

She was told that every time I leave Sriracha for overnight stay I should inform the Thai police I.e. report to the police station before I go

That is either a misunderstanding or incorrect info. There is no requirement to report when leaving your home address.

Forget about the reporting to the police since that is not enforced since it is not really enforceable.

[jacko45k]

Nobody at immigration will know of these comings and goings, don't worry about it. 

Only becomes an issue if you leave the country or some hotel/guest house/ condo submits a TM30 in your name.

[Matzzon]

This sounds unbelievable. There must be a misunderstanding or that something got lost in translation between wife and IO to wife and foreigner.

Not because I believe they will pick up the phone, I will actually call the same office and ask about this. Let´s just see if I will get the same information.

[jacko45k]

8 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

This sounds unbelievable. There must be a misunderstanding or that something got lost in translation between wife and IO to wife and foreigner.

Not because I believe they will pick up the phone, I will actually call the same office and ask about this. Let´s just see if I will get the same information.

What they tell you is actually correct, although you would report when you arrive at a new address and return home, within 24 hours to immigration offices. The practicalities is, who is to know if you do not? A  local rural police station likely would look at you as nuts. 

[OJAS]

I have applied for my last few retirement extensions at Eayong Immigration a matter of weeks after returning from an annual trip to Europe, most recently as 3 weeks ago. On no occasion have I or my wife as housemaster been informed that a fresh TM30 was required - even though the new TM30-related notices in Thai as have been reported elsewhere on here were on clear display last time!

[WorriedNoodle]

38 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Only becomes an issue if you leave the country or some hotel/guest house/ condo submits a TM30 in your name.

There must be many expats, myself included, actively avoiding hotels these days as the TM30 followup is too inconvenient. A pity for the hotel industry?

[Johnny Rotten]

1 minute ago, WorriedNoodle said:

There must be many expats, myself included, actively avoiding hotels these days as the TM30 followup is too inconvenient. A pity for the hotel industry?

You hit the nail on the head! I now avoid hotels, as I'm sure most of us will, until they are clear on this matter. The hotel industry also needs to get clarity on this issue from Immigration.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

10 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

There must be many expats, myself included, actively avoiding hotels these days as the TM30 followup is too inconvenient. A pity for the hotel industry?

 

That's one of the things I've thought all along about this TM30 B.S....

 

Biggest disincentive yet against expats doing recreational domestic travel here....

 

...aside from getting killed on the roads en route, facing ripoff tuk tuks and song ths when you arrive, swimming in sewage in the ocean or getting electrocuted while in the swimming pool, etc etc.

 

Not all Immigration offices apparently are enforcing it domestically, but BKK CW is AFAIK. And that covers a lot of expats.

 

 

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, Johnny Rotten said:

You hit the nail on the head! I now avoid hotels, as I'm sure most of us will, until they are clear on this matter. The hotel industry also needs to get clarity on this issue from Immigration.

Well I believe it is clear for the hotels, they must report all foreigners staying giving passport and TM6 details.  It is non tourist foreigners caught in a net of confusion.

[NCC1701A]

4 minutes ago, Johnny Rotten said:

You hit the nail on the head! I now avoid hotels, as I'm sure most of us will, until they are clear on this matter. The hotel industry also needs to get clarity on this issue from Immigration. 

they have had "clarity" on this issue for years. they ask for ID and report you when you check in.

 

[Pennywise]

On July 8th this year I left for NL from CR, without notifying Immigration/police on forehand as I never did before. After returning last friday afternoon my wife and I popped in at about 3:10pm, the IO requested my passport and my TM6 and she send me off with a new date for the 90day reporting. No forms and no need to show the blue book or my wife's thai ID, although available on demand..

[sfokevin]

Someone in Chiang Rai was fined 800 baht for not reporting to CM Immigration after a visit to Phuket...

 

 

[Farangwithaplan]

27 minutes ago, Johnny Rotten said:

You hit the nail on the head! I now avoid hotels, as I'm sure most of us will, until they are clear on this matter. The hotel industry also needs to get clarity on this issue from Immigration.

Just stay at short time hotels. Prices are fair and some of them are suprisingly good for a great rate. I went to a 'rong pleng' party at one last month with mezzanine level and several large baths and spas. It was a gem.

[Puchaiyank]

TM-50   Now you can pay immigration 10,000 baht and get a TM-50 which is good for a year and move about the country and internationally without the need of filing a TM-30...

 

Just kidding...for the moment!????

 

 

[Kron]

19 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said:

There must be many expats, myself included, actively avoiding hotels these days as the TM30 followup is too inconvenient. A pity for the hotel industry?

Yep. I find myself these days hiding in the car while the Wife books in.