Initial cannabis oil supply comes up short due to multiple problems

[webfact]

Initial cannabis oil supply comes up short due to multiple problems

By The Nation

 

 

The Government Pharmaceutical Organisation will start delivering its first 5,000 bottles of cannabis oil to government hospitals on August 7, the board chairman said on Thursday.

 

Doctor Sophon Mekthon, chairman of the GPO board of directors, said the cannabis oil will be delivered to hospitals as allocated by the Health Department.

 

Sophon was speaking at the National Health R2R Forum at the Pullman Khon Kaen Raja Orchid Hotel.

 

Sophon said that although the GPO earlier estimated that it would be able to make some 10,000 bottles of cannabis oil by the end of this month, but it could not reach that goal. The density of drug elements in the marijuana flowers given to the GPO has proved unstable, and it has been unable to extract sufficient drug content from the dried marijuana it had received.

 

Sophon also doubted whether the GPO and the Chao Phraya Aphai Phubet Hospital would be able to produce the up to 1 million bottles of cannabis oil within six months that has been targeted by Deputy Prime Minister and Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul.

 

Sophon said the production would depend on the marijuana flowers received by the two agencies. He noted that the seized marijuana from drug suspects that had been given to the two agencies was found to be contaminated with dangerous chemicals and could not be immediately used.

 

Sophon added that the GPO would also study the problems that arose from the first trial of planting marijuana, in order to draw lessons to improve the quality of the marijuana flowers in the second batch to be planted. 

 

Doctor Marut Jirasetsiri, director general of the Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine Department, said the distribution of cannabis oil to patients could be more limited due to the limited supply.

 

He said discussions among agencies of the Public Heath Ministry led to an agreement that the first group of patients to be given the oil were those who had registered in advance for a medical research project. Those patients are considered likely to gain the most benefit from using the oil, including those experiencing complex seizures or with Parkinson’s disease.

 

Marut added that over 30 hospitals under the Health Department would open clinics to give advice on cannabis oil treatment by the middle of this month.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30374036

 

-- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-08-01

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[FarFlungFalang]

Don't tell they got their predictions of how good they are have fallen short by half again.Maybe they should ask these guys to help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FAHsdBm8sU&t=1237s

 

[justin case]

2019 and it is illegal to import quality CBD oil (no THC) from the experts from HOLLAND

 

did I not read that this CDB in thailand was made from seized cannabis ?

 

what about purity ? pesticide use ? herbicides ?

 

my guess this "trial" is setup to fail by big pharma so they can "prove" it does not work what people think it does ... more chemical pills to sell with mega profits, in stead of allowing people a few plants for personal use

[worgeordie]

So basically its shit.

regards worgeordie

[TheDutchEngineer]

24 minutes ago, webfact said:

to be contaminated with dangerous chemicals and could not be immediately used.

But will be used in a later stadium, is what I am reading. It was the reason why they stocked it up. It's free and medical cannabis is simply big business

[FarFlungFalang]

24 minutes ago, justin case said:

my guess this "trial" is setup to fail by big pharma so they can "prove" it does not work what people think it does ... more chemical pills to sell with mega profits, in stead of allowing people a few plants for personal use

It is being run by the Thai government and we all know how good they are at running things,now if it was run by Thai entrepreneurs with the aim to make a profit I'm sure it would have been a different story.If those in power are making money from big Pharma then I think you're right and it was designed to fail.  

[mok199]

Nice neet packaging I must say...

[Captain 776]

Tried a few kinds of oil last time in USA........WAS totally useless, did nothing.

[SkyNets]

don't get high on your own supply

[ChipButty]

Oh <deleted> here we go, The watered down Version 

[NCC1701A]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

He noted that the seized marijuana from drug suspects that had been given to the two agencies was found to be contaminated with dangerous chemicals and could not be immediately used.

yes we wait till later.

[FarFlungFalang]

My guess is they made the 10,000 bottles but when they went to pack them for distribution they could only find 5,000 bottles and the rest went walk about.It is after all a lucrative market!Lets see 5,000 bottles time 1,000 baht per bottle thats a lucrative 5 million right there!So how do you explain the missing 5,000 bottles?Easy unforeseen production difficulties.

Edited August 1, 2019 by FarFlungFalang

[FarFlungFalang]

They should have done their trial much more like this.

 

 

[Justgrazing]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Sophon added that the GPO would also study the problems that arose from the first trial of planting marijuana, in order to draw lessons to improve the quality of the marijuana flowers in the second batch to be planted

They must be useless If they've managed to cock the first crop up .. its hardly rocket science growing weed .. All it need's is correct temp , humidity and water/fertilizer with a 12/12hr lighting regime for flowering and a bit of fan breeze .. All of which is controllable .. get that right and it'll take care of itself .. 

Edited August 1, 2019 by Justgrazing
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[webfact]

Thailand set to deliver first batch of medical marijuana

By Chayut Setboonsarng

 

FILE PHOTO: A woman walks by an election campaign poster for a party promoting the legalisation of cannabis for medical use, in Bangkok, Thailand, February 15, 2019. REUTERS/Soe Zeya Tun/File Photo

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand plans to distribute about 10,000 bottles of cannabis oil next week for hospital patients, a government official said on Thursday, the first official use of medical marijuana since a law legalizing it came into effect this year.

 

The Government Pharmaceutical Organization (GPO) will deliver 4,500 5ml bottles of cannabis oil to the Ministry of Public Health to be distributed to hospitals on Aug. 7 for about 4,000 registered patients, GPO executive managing director, Withoon Danwiboon, told a news conference.

 

The remaining 5,500 bottles will be gradually distributed later.

 

Thailand, which has a tradition of using cannabis to relieve pain and fatigue, has legalized marijuana for medical use and research to help boost agricultural incomes.

 

Cannabis oil will be used to treat patients who suffer from nausea from chemotherapy, epilepsy, and aches and pains, Withoon said, adding that patients with Parkinson's, Alzheimer's and in palliative care would also benefit.

 

The GPO will begin planting its second crop of cannabis plants later this month and by early 2020, it plans to expand production to greenhouse cultivation and aims to produce 150,000-200,000 bottles of the oil.

 

"We have to speed up production because there is an under supply," Withoon said.

 

For five years, foreign investors and imports of cannabis will be prohibited to allow the domestic industry to build up capacity and knowledge, he said.

 

Anutin Charnvirakul, a politician who campaigned for legalizing marijuana and is now health minister, said in a separate statement on Thursday that cannabis must only be used for medical purposes, not for recreational ones.

 

Steps would be taken to allow public health volunteers to grow cannabis at home for health benefits, but it would not be allowed to be sold.

 

A new civilian government has said it has made developing the medical marijuana industry a top priority to create economic opportunities in rural areas.

 

(Reporting by Chayut Setboonsarng; Editing by Robert Birsel)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-08-02

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[dcnx]

We need to get Prayut in there as the minister of weed so he can sort this stuff out.  

[Oziex1]

14 hours ago, justin case said:

2019 and it is illegal to import quality CBD oil (no THC) from the experts from HOLLAND

 

did I not read that this CDB in thailand was made from seized cannabis ?

 

what about purity ? pesticide use ? herbicides ?

 

my guess this "trial" is setup to fail by big pharma so they can "prove" it does not work what people think it does ... more chemical pills to sell with mega profits, in stead of allowing people a few plants for personal use

Nah,  they've rushed it through falling over themselves with furious greed and this is the price they pay. 

[FarFlungFalang]

Another bloody five year plan must be time to move to Canada!

[leither69]

16 hours ago, justin case said:

2019 and it is illegal to import quality CBD oil (no THC) from the experts from HOLLAND

 

did I not read that this CDB in thailand was made from seized cannabis ?

 

what about purity ? pesticide use ? herbicides ?

 

my guess this "trial" is setup to fail by big pharma so they can "prove" it does not work what people think it does ... more chemical pills to sell with mega profits, in stead of allowing people a few plants for personal use

Didn't you read the article?

[Ulysses G.]

Is this oil THC or CBD or both?

[justaphase]

It's all about the money here. Making lots of it without thinking about the future. Soon all this baht they have will be worth nothing. Boom!

[Globe Trotter]

18 hours ago, justin case said:

2019 and it is illegal to import quality CBD oil (no THC) from the experts from HOLLAND

 

did I not read that this CDB in thailand was made from seized cannabis ?

 

what about purity ? pesticide use ? herbicides ?

 

my guess this "trial" is setup to fail by big pharma so they can "prove" it does not work what people think it does ... more chemical pills to sell with mega profits, in stead of allowing people a few plants for personal use

You can bet that that flower seized from Thai growers will have heavy metals, pesticides, herbicides and asbestos dust all over it. 

[sillyfool]

49 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

Is this oil THC or CBD or both?

odds are it is thc oil. the input material used to create the oil more than likely contained little to no cbd at all. guess work sure but i'm willing to bet i'm not far off the mark. 

[Time to grow]

So let me get this straight, tobacco cigarettes and medical marijuana are legal but vaping is illegal in Thailand? Considering how common vaping is in the rest of the world, that's going to cost some tourism. The asinine part about this decision is that it cant be supported by health claims.

[bendejo]

In another thread on this subject people posted about the impressive buzz they got from the oil.  That means it is NOT CBD.

 

Question: Can CBD oil get you high?

Answer: No, CBD is naturally non-psychoactive. You may, however, feel more relaxed, which some people also associate with being “high.”

https://healthyhempoil.com/can-cbd-oil-get-you-high/

 

 

[Srikcir]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

The Government Pharmaceutical Organisation will start delivering its first 5,000 bottles of cannabis oil to government hospitals

I'm surprised the Ministry of Energy isn't proposing that cannabis oil be used as a fuel for electric power generation as will palm oil. I would imagine the power plant employees would support such use.

[FarFlungFalang]

27 minutes ago, Globe Trotter said:

You can bet that that flower seized from Thai growers will have heavy metals, pesticides, herbicides and asbestos dust all over it. 

What makes you think Thais grew it?If they did grow it where would all that stuff come from Thais can't afford stuff like that why would they put asbestos dust on ganja plants and what is putting heavy metal going to do?

[orientalist]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

For five years, foreign investors and imports of cannabis will be prohibited to allow the domestic industry to build up capacity and knowledge, he said.

Well, that's depressing, unless it excludes individual imports for personal use.

 

It's no surprise that seized marijuana doesn't produce good quality CBD oil. Even in the UK, a recent test showed that many commercial products were of poor quality or contaminated:

 

"38% of the products tested had less than 50% of the advertised CBD content.  One product had 0% CBD.  45% of the selected products had measurable levels of THC (mean content 0.04%) or CBN (mean content 0.01%) and are thus technically illegal within the UK. 

One product had 3.8% ethanol (3.4% qualifies as an alcoholic beverage).  Dichoromethane was detectable in seven products (3.8-13.1ppm) and cyclohexane was found in one product (27.9ppm).  These percentages of solvents and heavy metals are still below the permitted daily dose levels in pharmaceutical products, although above food limit safety levels."

 

https://www.sharesmagazine.co.uk/news/market/6479800/Phytovista-completes-largest-UK-CBD-product-test

[Megascott]

Legalizing "Medical Marijuana" and only allowing CBD oil is two different things. This scam of creating an industry based on government grown plants and even confiscated plants, instead of tightly regulated controlled growth industry produced product will lead to nothing but continued corrupt practices and a failed industry, much like bragging that every household in Thailand will be providing solar, "The biggest green solar initiative in Asia" and then add a 20kbht "Engineering" charge and only allow certain expensive grid tie equipment to qualify, full well knowing that most Thais cannot afford any of it, but then the brother in laws solar company gets all of the solar contracts.

[hotchilli]

19 hours ago, worgeordie said:

So basically its shit.

regards worgeordie

Technically it's sh*t sh*t !!