Johnson's top aide says lawmakers can't stop no-deal Brexit - Sunday Telegraph

[Aforek]

54 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

"EU unsustainable without the UK" ? Give me ONE reason ! I presume, thanks to less friction, a quicker working of the EU.

Which countries want to step out of the EU ?

Just read some "brexit fake news" https://www.indy100.com/article/eu-membership-countries-vote-leave-remain-8888956

EU28, Kantar poll: European Union Membership Referendum % Remain

Ireland 91% Netherlands 91% Sweden 89% Spain 88% Germany 89% Belgium 87% Portugal 92% Greece 75% Bulgaria 83% France 74% Estonia 89% Slovakia 86% Italy 72% Hungary 81% Denmark 86% Poland 89% Romania 89%

To give you a second: the Dutch PVV, and ONLY who want a NEXIT went from 4 seats in the EU parliament to.. ZERO 

 

Not all want to commit commercial + economical suicide like the British ( or better: the English)

It's very funny to see that British brexiters want to think ( or hope ?) that the other european countries want to leave EU ; of course not, EU is the future, Britain wants to commit suicide, it's one's problem, but don't think everybody want to suicide 

[puipuitom]

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

Division was built into the referendum result, obviously escaped your notice that Northern Ireland, Scotland and Gibraltar all voted to remain.

The f.. ( may not write that word in TV) , the English decide, also about their European posessions/colonies...

[puipuitom]

4 minutes ago, Aforek said:

It's very funny to see that British brexiters want to think ( or hope ?) that the other european countries want to leave EU ; of course not, EU is the future, Britain wants to commit suicide, it's one's problem, but don't think everybody want to suicide 

48,11% voted for "Remain", only ONE possiblity = as it is now.

 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/de-gaulle-knew-it-britain-does-not-belong-in-the-eu/

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/how-president-de-gaulles-second-veto-of-britains-ec-application-fifty-years-ago-led-directly-to-the-leave-vote-in-2016/

[kingdong]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The deep division is real, evident here an evident in the UK, often bitterly dividing friends and family.

 

And yet we are to believe the Government can deliver, or worse still, deliver the most extreme no-deal Brexit  on the back of a one seat majority that is itself under threat. 

 

The sensible thing to do, it put Brexit back to the people. 

a peoples  vote no less,how democratic,however didn,t we have a "peoples vote" 3 years,when the "people"were asked if they wanted to stay or remain in the EU ?

[zorrow424]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Division about the EU has been around since we joined in the early 1970s. The UK never really bought into the EU project, especially after it went from the ECC to its current form. If we had we would have joined the Euro but there was so much resistance, you could argue we believed in the EU, we never did.

 

Luckily the referendum was a was collective binary vote. Some boroughs in Yorkshire and Lancashire voted to remain. It doesn't mean they should stay in the EU. No, as it was a collective result, in case it escaped your notice.

 

Its all hot air now,all the quoting,just move on swiftly,get it done and dusted..perfect.   Never in a million years will it be/could be changed,a fantastic result

   The last dying moments of UK membership to the EU,likened to drowning rats attempting to escape most of the quotes here.....its finished,just get over yourselves

[kingdong]

paradoxically the people i feel sorry for,while this whole fiasco carrys on are the people who went to thailand to retire and have been caught up in the circumstances of falling exchange rates,and changes to visa requirements,they will have to return to their countries of birth,some having to leave their families behind them,a small point but one that appears to have been overlooked in this post and indeed the whole issue of brexit.  

[emptypockets]

8 hours ago, ardsong said:

On each Brexit post , I laugh my "a.." off, for the different comments posted. It shows that the British expats are as divided as their country folks inside (great) Britain and their politicians. It would be a pity if this comedy ends by 31st October.

Don't think there are too British expats on this thread.

Edited August 4, 2019 by emptypockets

[brewsterbudgen]

Don't think there are too British expats on this thread.

Too many or too few?

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[emptypockets]

10 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Too many or too few?

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ooops….don't think there are many British expats commenting. Singha does that to me sometimes.

[zorrow424]

31 minutes ago, kingdong said:

paradoxically the people i feel sorry for,while this whole fiasco carrys on are the people who went to thailand to retire and have been caught up in the circumstances of falling exchange rates,and changes to visa requirements,they will have to return to their countries of birth,some having to leave their families behind them,a small point but one that appears to have been overlooked in this post and indeed the whole issue of brexit.  

Doubt if Brexit was main cause,falling exchange rates,but all countries were effected.   its Thailand's decision to keep hot money flowing into Thailand that is main cause,bond sales.  personally I think its all a ponzi scheme at play, past bond sales need servicing,no money to do it,so fresh sales take place.   Thailand's going kaput too

[emptypockets]

3 minutes ago, zorrow424 said:

Doubt if Brexit was main cause,falling exchange rates,but all countries were effected.   its Thailand's decision to keep hot money flowing into Thailand that is main cause,bond sales.  personally I think its all a ponzi scheme at play, past bond sales need servicing,no money to do it,so fresh sales take place.   Thailand's going kaput too

Tend to agree. I think a lot of people are basing (hoping) the exchange rates are purely Brexit based. I don't think that's true...maybe for the pound but it doesn't explain all the other currencies crashing relative to the Baht.

I truly feel sorry for the British pensioners who think there will be a miraculous and lasting recovery of the pound post Brexit. I think all the uncertainty was factored in a very long time ago. Get used to the current exchange rate for quite a while. I'm expecting AUD to be in the 19 baht range for three or four years barring some spectacular implosion with the Baht. or the second coming of John Howard as PM of Australia. Neither are likely at the moment.

[puipuitom]

36 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

British expats on this thread. Too many or too few?

When the GBP continues on this way.. soon no Brit can afford to living outside the Single Kingdom..

[emptypockets]

4 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

When the GBP continues on this way.. soon no Brit can afford to living outside the Single Kingdom..

Single Kingdom, as opposed to the United Kingdom?

[Handsome Gardener]

10 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

 

The sooner we are out of the EU the better chance for unity within the country. Keeping the UK in the EU will just create more unrest and division.

 

Odd then that every survey I've seen in the last 6 months wants exactly that !

[Loiner]

52 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Don't think there are too British expats on this thread.

The European ones are out in force here and getting very vocal. They're running scared now as Brexit becomes a reality.

[zorrow424]

15 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

When the GBP continues on this way.. soon no Brit can afford to living outside the Single Kingdom..

Seem to have taken it on yourself to add a layer of gloom that will never happen.   I'm happy, English through and through,   but that Euro you hold ain't so special either,fact is that will certainly dive

[Handsome Gardener]

9 hours ago, vogie said:

But by ignoring the wishes of a democratic decision just might come and bite the remainers on the backside.

How ?

[emptypockets]

15 minutes ago, Loiner said:

The European ones are out in force here and getting very vocal. They're running scared now as Brexit becomes a reality.

Suspect you may be right.

[Handsome Gardener]

24 minutes ago, zorrow424 said:

Seem to have taken it on yourself to add a layer of gloom that will never happen.   I'm happy, English through and through,   but that Euro you hold ain't so special either,fact is that will certainly dive

Can you explain that 'fact' please ? What is going to make the Euro 'dive' ? 

[Handsome Gardener]

10 hours ago, ThaiBunny said:

Not only are you correct in that statement, he's also posted to the effect that he doesn't like any politician on the Brexit side. Just Ignore him

Always better to debate - ignoring just sends out the signal you're beaten!

[Issannative]

Corbin that all anyone has to say no effective opposition just an old decrepid Marxist in charge of the Labour party

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[Handsome Gardener]

9 hours ago, smedly said:

There is one fact that escapes everyone - we will leave on the 31st Oct, it cannot be stopped, even if the CON government loses a NC vote all they have to do is plan an election after the 31st Oct we will have left by default and law - bye bye

 

 

If you are going to quote someone word for word, in this case Dominic Cummings you should really give him the credit rather than try and pass it off as your own.

[Handsome Gardener]

9 hours ago, smedly said:

They don't want the UK to leave because they cannot compete with a free trading UK once the shackles and control from Brussels have been torn away

 

 

Hmmm don't want to appear to picking on you chap but you're making it kind of easy

 

UK GDP 2.9trillion - EU GDP 17.2 trillion or to break it down into simpler terms, the EU has the economic muscle of six UK's - run that 'can't compete' thing past me again please

[vogie]

59 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

When the GBP continues on this way.. soon no Brit can afford to living outside the Single Kingdom..

"With god on our side, who can be againgst us"

[emptypockets]

16 minutes ago, Handsome Gardener said:

Always better to debate - ignoring just sends out the signal you're beaten!

Hence the ignore button on this forum. Never ever used it myself. Happy to hear all opinions.

[bristolboy]

48 minutes ago, zorrow424 said:

Seem to have taken it on yourself to add a layer of gloom that will never happen.   I'm happy, English through and through,   but that Euro you hold ain't so special either,fact is that will certainly dive

Unlike Brexit enthusiasts who insist that Brexit will ultimately boost the UK economy, the EU has never claimed that Brexit will be good for them. So most likely, the Euro will decline in value if Brexit happens. But not nearly so much as the pound.

[zorrow424]

47 minutes ago, Handsome Gardener said:

Can you explain that 'fact' please ? What is going to make the Euro 'dive' ? 

ER m  I would say Treasure Island is about to be pulled from under their feet. UK always in negative territory import/export by billions,now  (or nearly, no negatives from EU for UK ....as no trading with EU    Eu especially southern EU going to be hit extremely hard,...as for Eire  basket case  billions  ,even trillions to be poured into that basket case

,...anyway  wot you say as to extent of euro being strong and stable  ?   lol

Edited August 4, 2019 by zorrow424

[zorrow424]

14 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Unlike Brexit enthusiasts who insist that Brexit will ultimately boost the UK economy, the EU has never claimed that Brexit will be good for them. So most likely, the Euro will decline in value if Brexit happens. But not nearly so much as the pound.s

Its been sliding alongside the £ for years

[zorrow424]

26 minutes ago, Handsome Gardener said:

Hmmm don't want to appear to picking on you chap but you're making it kind of easy

 

UK GDP 2.9trillion - EU GDP 17.2 trillion or to break it down into simpler terms, the EU has the economic muscle of six UK's - run that 'can't compete' thing past me again please

It might have the muscle,in numbers,but all bets off as to future, the EU is in deep trouble  that GDP can go either way,the UKs GDP is down because of uncertainty  ,once clarity comes about which it will,numbers will go up

[bannork]

1 hour ago, zorrow424 said:

Doubt if Brexit was main cause,falling exchange rates,but all countries were effected.   its Thailand's decision to keep hot money flowing into Thailand that is main cause,bond sales.  personally I think its all a ponzi scheme at play, past bond sales need servicing,no money to do it,so fresh sales take place.   Thailand's going kaput too

Love it how Brexiteers always claim that countries with stronger currencies are doomed.

'EU? Oh, it's finished mate once we leave. France, Germany, their economies will tank once the UK has committed economic suicide. No one to buy German cars, they're gonna go bust, (of course as the pound collapses further we won't have the money to buy their cars anyway).

Thailand? Yeah, it's doomed too, how can a developing country have a stronger currency than ours, the great UK? We will bounce back. mark my words, it stands to reason right? Once we've got these new trade deals with who knows who in place in a few years. (apparently the trade deal with the Yanks will take at least 3 years, and maybe never if we mess up the backstop), we'll be back at the top of our game, or some other meaningless phrase.'