UK court blocks bid to prosecute Johnson over Brexit bus claim

[snoop1130]

UK court blocks bid to prosecute Johnson over Brexit bus claim

 

FILE PHOTO: Former London Mayor Boris Johnson speaks at the launch of the Vote Leave bus campaign, in favour of Britain leaving the European Union, in Truro, Britain May 11, 2016. REUTERS/Darren Staples

 

LONDON (Reuters) - A campaigner who wanted to prosecute British Prime Minister Boris Johnson for allegedly lying about the benefits of Brexit before the 2016 European Union referendum, has lost his bid to take the case to Britain’s top court, Sky News reported.

 

Marcus Ball, 29, wanted to bring the crowdfunded private prosecution against Johnson for misconduct in public office over a claim emblazoned on his bright red “Leave” campaign bus that Britain would be 350 million pounds a week better off outside the EU.

 

In May, a magistrate agreed that Johnson should be summoned to court to face the charges. But that decision was overturned by London’s High Court in June after judges agreed with the lawyer for Johnson - who became prime minister in July while the case was ongoing - that the magistrate’s decision was flawed.

 

The lawyer also argued the case was politically motivated and the judges said the magistrate was wrong not to have considered it to be “vexatious”.

 

Ball had asked for permission to appeal that decision to the Supreme Court but on Wednesday his application to do so was refused by the High Court.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-08-14

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[Mavideol]

and that's the UK democracy, one goes around spreading fake news, misleading information that resulted in a vote that may lead a country to it's knees and yet not prosecuted.... I see some similarities to Thailand junta's voting

[smedly]

42 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

and that's the UK democracy, one goes around spreading fake news, misleading information that resulted in a vote that may lead a country to it's knees and yet not prosecuted.... I see some similarities to Thailand junta's voting

so how much do we save - 350 340 320 300m - how much ?

[7by7]

2 hours ago, smedly said:

so how much do we save - 350 340 320 300m - how much ?

 

The UK's EU membership fee

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It’s been claimed that we send £350 million a week to the EU. That misses out the rebate, and it doesn’t represent the total economic costs and benefits of EU membership to the UK.

£350 million is roughly what we would pay to the EU budget without the rebate. The UK actually paid closer to £250 million a week.  

The UK Statistics Authority has said the EU membership fee figure of £19 billion a year, or £350 million a week, is "not an amount of money that the UK pays to the EU each year".

Since then, the new chair of the Authority described use of the figure by the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, as “a clear misuse of official statistics”.

 

As the article says, the actual figure net of the rebate of £13.2 billion does not include money spent in the UK by the EU; £4.4 billion public sector receipts such as farm subsidies and a further £2.3 billion to the private sector such as research grants. This brings the net figure to around £6.5 billion. Still a lot, but almost a third of what Boris claimed.

 

Boris knew all this and deliberately lied; unless he is an incompetent and not capable of running a whelk stall, let alone a country!

[Thingamabob]

Utter rubbish.

[Mavideol]

13 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

The UK's EU membership fee

 

As the article says, the actual figure net of the rebate of £13.2 billion does not include money spent in the UK by the EU; £4.4 billion public sector receipts such as farm subsidies and a further £2.3 billion to the private sector such as research grants. This brings the net figure to around £6.5 billion. Still a lot, but almost a third of what Boris claimed.

 

Boris knew all this and deliberately lied; unless he is an incompetent and not capable of running a whelk stall, let alone a country!

and thus should be accounted for misleading the vote, guilty and should be punished.... if one commits perjury (lies) he/she will be indicted/prosecuted, in the UK they let them be PM

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

and thus should be accounted for misleading the vote, guilty and should be punished.... if one commits perjury (lies) he/she will be indicted/prosecuted, in the UK they let them be PM

Maybe Boris had just taken a leaf out of Jean Claude Junckers latest book 'When it becomes serious, you have to lie.'

[sawadee1947]

Same here in Thailand! 

Prayut and Boris could become real buddies. Together with Donald. World class elite! ????????

[Jip99]

3 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

Same here in Thailand! 

Prayut and Boris could become real buddies. Together with Donald. World class elite! ????????

 

 

They would certainly get the job done..................................... add Hun Sen and Duterte and you have your dream team.

[puipuitom]

On 8/14/2019 at 2:29 PM, smedly said:

so how much do we save - 350 340 320 300m - how much ?

Looking to publication nr in the HoC Library: CBP nr 7886 of 24 June 2019 at average: page 3: GBP 7,9 Bn /12 = 65.83 million/ month. ( oh wait.. of course FAKE news… Who believes the British House of Commons… )

The UK's contribution to the EU Budget - Parliament.uk

researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/.../CBP.../CBP-788...

29 mrt. 2019 - Number CBP 7886, 24 June 2019. The UK's contribution to the EU Budget. By Matthew Keep. Inside: 1. The UK and the EU budget. 2. The UK's ...

However, inclusive this annual UK contribution is also the part, which comes back to salaries of British personel and EMP at the EU, the British share in a LOT of common activistes like Eur Medicine Agency, food safety in RASFF, EFSA etc etc. the British have to take care for on their own from 1 Nov onwards. Every doubtful shipment of food, refused in the EU, can now be dumped in UK ( instead of now Africa) . 

http://publications.europa.eu/webpub/com/eu-what-it-is/en/#chapter2  

http://publications.europa.eu/webpub/com/eu-what-it-is/en/#chapter2_25

 

https://www.era-learn.eu/partnerships-in-a-nutshell/type-of-networks/joint-programming-initiatives  

[Baerboxer]

23 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

The UK's EU membership fee

 

As the article says, the actual figure net of the rebate of £13.2 billion does not include money spent in the UK by the EU; £4.4 billion public sector receipts such as farm subsidies and a further £2.3 billion to the private sector such as research grants. This brings the net figure to around £6.5 billion. Still a lot, but almost a third of what Boris claimed.

 

Boris knew all this and deliberately lied; unless he is an incompetent and not capable of running a whelk stall, let alone a country!

 

The problem is, he's far from the only one that lied. Allowing him to be prosecuted would have set a precedent. Politicians could be held accountable under law, and taken to court, for lying. Imagine that!

 

No way would the political establishment allow such a precedent. Regardless of verdict.

[Baerboxer]

9 hours ago, Mavideol said:

and thus should be accounted for misleading the vote, guilty and should be punished.... if one commits perjury (lies) he/she will be indicted/prosecuted, in the UK they let them be PM

 

Perjury is lying under oath. Johnson, for all his undoubted faults, wasn't giving a statement under oath.

 

Organizations lying about goods or services would be liable under consumer protection laws for deliberate lies and misleading statements. 

 

It seems laws don't apply to politicians. They can lie, mislead and chop and change as much as they please.

[smedly]

5 hours ago, puipuitom said:

Looking to publication nr in the HoC Library:

I think you will find that people that voted to leave the EU don't actually give *****

 

we just want out - no problem trading with our close neighbours which is what we signed up for but it has morphed into something completely different, and the more people see the underbelly of the EU which has been spread wide open these last few years the more toxic it becomes 

 

I listen to the hate for the British on a daily basis - history remains live today - some claim we have moved on - no we haven't, there is bitter resentment that festers and it is growing

 

Like I said - trade away, how can that not be a good thing but taking rules from a German led EU is a bitter pill, the EU has gone too far and the British people are rejecting it

 

Lets get a sensible trade relationship sorted but we will be an independent free nation 

[Loiner]

This chancer Marcus Ball had his case thrown out of court only a couple of months ago. Why on earth did they think an appeal would be accepted? The Remainers will try anything, especially when using other people’s money.


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[thaibilly]

38 minutes ago, Loiner said:

This chancer Marcus Ball had his case thrown out of court only a couple of months ago. Why on earth did they think an appeal would be accepted? The Remainers will try anything, especially when using other people’s money.


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Well said Mr Loiner. 

[PoorSucker]

On 8/15/2019 at 10:14 AM, sawadee1947 said:

Same here in Thailand! 

Prayut and Boris could become real buddies. Together with Donald. World class elite! ????????

Prayat? 

 

[sawadee1947]

42 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:

Prayat? 

 

I know that interview. Very interesting giving a good picture of Boris 

[7by7]

On ‎8‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 9:23 PM, Loiner said:

This chancer Marcus Ball had his case thrown out of court only a couple of months ago. Why on earth did they think an appeal would be accepted? The Remainers will try anything, especially when using other people’s money.

 

Here in the UK, the judiciary is independent of the executive and of Parliament. If a lower court gives a person leave to appeal to a higher one, that is their right.

 

Yet again, a Brexiteer who bangs on about freedom and democracy doesn't like it when those rights are applied to those with whom they disagree!

 

 

[Loiner]

2 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

Here in the UK, the judiciary is independent of the executive and of Parliament. If a lower court gives a person leave to appeal to a higher one, that is their right.

 

Yet again, a Brexiteer who bangs on about freedom and democracy doesn't like it when those rights are applied to those with whom they disagree!

 

 

He had his right to appeal. He took it and the appeal was rejected by the High Court judge, who also has a right to decide whether to accept it or not.

We all have rights and the Remainers are abusing theirs. They are also abusing our right to achieve Brexit in a timely manner. 

[7by7]

49 minutes ago, Loiner said:

He had his right to appeal. He took it and the appeal was rejected by the High Court judge, who also has a right to decide whether to accept it or not.

We all have rights and the Remainers are abusing theirs. They are also abusing our right to achieve Brexit in a timely manner. 

 

It seems that you have changed your mind and now agree that any individual in the UK has the right to approach the courts and that the courts are, and must remain, independent of the government of the day!

 

Marcus Ball used that right. Shame that you call him a chancer but approve of the lies, subterfuge and, as found by the Electoral Commission, illegal tactics used by Cummings, Johnson and the rest of Vote.Leave.

 

Remember that their illegal activities mean that had the referendum been binding rather than advisory, the result would have been declared null and void!

 

Brexit would have happened last March if Rees-Mogg and others had put the interests of the country above personal ambition and voted for the government rather than against!

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

It seems that you have changed your mind and now agree that any individual in the UK has the right to approach the courts and that the courts are, and must remain, independent of the government of the day!

 

Marcus Ball used that right. Shame that you call him a chancer but approve of the lies, subterfuge and, as found by the Electoral Commission, illegal tactics used by Cummings, Johnson and the rest of Vote.Leave.

 

Remember that their illegal activities mean that had the referendum been binding rather than advisory, the result would have been declared null and void!

 

Brexit would have happened last March if Rees-Mogg and others had put the interests of the country above personal ambition and voted for the government rather than against!

No change of mind by me. I still think that Marcus Ball is a chancer. I still think he was wasting everybody's time going for an appeal after his case being kicked out the first time. He is for sure chancing it again if trying for a Supreme Court to hear his appeal  Maybe it's all because he is swanning around the courts on other peoples' crowd funded money. Nothing to do with his rights, which he is abusing with vexatious court applications.

 

If there had been any illegal activities by Boris in the Vote Leave campaign, he would have been in court now, so would Nigel and anyone else you care to mention. You will have noted that none of the Leave campaigners are in jail or the courts, and the referndum result stands. Your allegations are just bluff and bluster. Rees-Mogg is putting the interests of the country above whatever you believe his ambition is. I have no doubt that they are also above your own personal anti-Brexit interests, so no problem with that either.

 

The parallels between Marcus Ball and the general Remain anti-Brexit trickery are interesting: We didn't get the answer we expected at the referendum because too many plebs voted the wrong way. We know better than them, so we'll take it to the courts/parliament where we will get our own way, regardless of what anybody else says. Because we didn't get the answer we wanted from that court, we will try another court/parliament until we get our own way.

Is this how all Remainers always think? Can we see a trend developing here?